Topic: Lifetime Oil filter

[754]

Some place you can no longer throw a paper filter in the trash.. legally.. and yiu have to pay to dispose of them.

 at the end of the day you want clean oil, whatever way you can get it..

[seaweb11]

So will these units screw into one of the "spin on adapters"?

[scondon]

Sounds like a few on here are sugesting that some racers are wearing their engines out on purpose..


I think I will watch what the racers do vs the "dont run it to redline" crowd...

    Not saying that at all 754, just trying to point out that race engines are in a different class. They run so hot and with so much power that a buttload of stuff needs to be done to them to keep them from exploding. So rather than saying "it's good for the racers, therefore it's good for my stock honda" you might gain some converts with something that has more info rather than bravado

    I for one am curious if there is anything to be gained with a high-flow filter on a moderately modified 750? I will however start puking on my screen the next time someone says these things are better than throwing your old filter in the trash. The crap you clean out of one of these things and the solvent you use to clean with is getting flushed down the toilet or dumped in the dirt in most cases, I guarantee ya

[eldar]

Yeah with the cleaning, which is probably and oil based solvent, I see nothing "green" about these filters. After all, you have to constantly use clean fluid, to do otherwise will leave crud behind.

Also, most racers rebuild their engines on a fairly frequent basis. Maybe not after every run, but they sure do not go 20,000 miles!

[TomC]

Hi Oil Filter Lovers
     Years ago I listened to some "professional race engine builders" #$%* about Oberg oil filters. Seems that with the Oberg oil filter after the start up and break in run there was a load of crap in the screen. Sounded to me like them needed to work on there cleaning of parts going into the engine.
     My Yamaha came from yamaha with a metal screen oil filter.
          TomC in Ohio

[goon 1492]

Yeah with the cleaning, which is probably and oil based solvent, I see nothing "green" about these filters. After all, you have to constantly use clean fluid, to do otherwise will leave crud behind.

Also, most racers rebuild their engines on a fairly frequent basis. Maybe not after every run, but they sure do not go 20,000 miles!

Very true about the green its just a sales gimic, and there is a lot of innovation the goes onto our street machines that come from racing technologies and they give them racing engines three different levels of hell  , ya know the suspension from my 2000 lincoln ls v-8 was designed from a f-1 race car, and man for a 4,000lb car it liked the corners just like a little civic.

[eldar]

Suspension is one thing but there are no racers that run their engines a long time so long term tests do not really exist.

[mystic_1]

I was going to ask how many racers put 1500 miles on their oil between changes. 

mystic_1

[754]

Well I never said they were better or greener.

What I am saying that if the racers use them, perhaps they are worth looking into.

Not everyone owns a recirculating filtered parts washer, but some of us certainly do.

While I am sure paper filters can do the job, I see many on here that look for the cheapest they can buy... and I am not that fond of aftermarket CB 750 paper filters where the end caps fall off due to poor construction..

[scondon]

Well I never said they were better or greener.

What I am saying that if the racers use them, perhaps they are worth looking into.

   I gotcha, and am not disagreeing with you. I too like the "good stuff". Advertisers have me wound too tight with what they think they can tell me that will dazzle me into buying their #$%* so I'm always wanting to know a bit more about something is all. My apologies if I singled ya out, not intended

[goon 1492]

Well I never said they were better or greener.

What I am saying that if the racers use them, perhaps they are worth looking into.

   I gotcha, and am not disagreeing with you. I too like the "good stuff". Advertisers have me wound too tight with what they think they can tell me that will dazzle me into buying their #$%* so I'm always wanting to know a bit more about something is all. My apologies if I singled ya out, not intended

Me too I gotcha, I know that the abuse given to race engines is scalable to everyday use, its just one 500mile race is equal to 10,000 miles of everyday driving or something along those lines, can't remember exactly where I saw that it was 10+yrs ago. Also Good ol George Carlin (RIP) never said it better when it comes to corperate advertising with the "new super delux premo ultra strong triple chrome plated premium limited edition devices" pile of crap. thats why its good to have these forums so we as a whole can get our own interpretation.

[eldar]

I think the issue is that just cause racers use them, does not mean they will work for us. For break in, probably ok but long term use is the question. Racers generally never go long between rebuilds, we do. Now if someone wanted to fork out 100+ bucks to test one, hey great. I hope it works for them and does what it is supposed to. It wont be me as I do not have the cash to throw away on something that may not work. I wish I could but right now, at 2 -3 changes a year at $3 for a filter, comes to 9 and that makes about 12 years to cost the same as this filter. Hard for me to justify I guess. It is always nice though to have an option if it works.
I cant say I have ever had a filter fall apart though, even the filter that was soaked in oil for 3 years while my bike was in storage.

I guess no matter what, they are pretty filters!

[754]

I was sorta thinking..

 cuz I use my oil change as an opportunty to look for particles in the oil.. which is a barometer or early warning sign of a component starting to fail....

That this may show all particles easily, as opposed to not seeing what is stuck in the paper.

I dont peel the filter apart, I run the oil over cardboard and look at what is in the filter housing..


The cost is minor when talking a built engine..

[754]

If the filters work 1/3 as good as their steering dampers.. it good enough for me..

[eldar]

When you got a built engine, you certainly want the best. A filter, no matter the cost is cheaper than a build which starts at 1000 and is usually 2-3000.

Again, it would be nice if there was something else but I suppose simple is sometimes best.
Maybe someone will try them and post it here, if you can get something to fit the cb.