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Offline BLUE71TURBO

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #125 on: September 01, 2009, 08:27:04 PM »
I'd still like to know how much a henry abe front rim is worth ?   Anybody ?
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels Now with new EPMs!!!
« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2009, 07:33:36 PM »
Hey guys I know we are mostly talking mags for CB750s But I have to show you the wheels on my newest family member... 1975 Cb400F with Magnesium EPM mag wheels and a rear Brembo disc and caliper conversion.

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #127 on: September 07, 2009, 04:22:22 PM »
Thats a very tidy 400, love the wheels...

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #128 on: September 08, 2009, 03:52:09 PM »
Thanks, they are fully 1/2 the reason I bought it. The condition of the rest of the bike is the other half. I like the CB750K, but I have to admit I love the 400F. As soon as it shows up The rack and the fairing are Ebay history.

Hopefully my 750s wont get jealous!

I sold the following rat Cafe a year ago. The 400F tank had guys asking me all the time how the heck I got a 750 in a 400 frame.(Nobody ever thought that switching the tank might be a little bit easier!)  LOL









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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #129 on: September 08, 2009, 04:42:22 PM »
My preference is for the Shelby Dowd wheels. I personally think they look so much better than most others that I've seen.

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #130 on: September 08, 2009, 05:01:36 PM »
I agree with MYHONDAS. The SHELBY DOWD rims look great and that CARROL SHELBY himself had something to do with them makes it even better !!!   ;D


             
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #131 on: September 08, 2009, 05:26:59 PM »
The cool thing about Shelby anything is that crafty old fart was willing to put his hot rod name on anything anyone would pay him to put it on! He was a very hot commodity and his name helped sell parts.

The Shelby wheels are cool but the EPMs are magnesium... A little less beauty but makes for a more functional (lighter) suspension.

I have to say I am glad you guys are not only purists. I get in "discussions" all the time with VJMC guys who can only appreciate original factory or restored bikes. Don't get me wrong I love a mint original or a restored beauty but if you want "rare" vintage speed parts are the way to go. Almost no one will have what you have and it is period correct!
Oh and can we stop worshiping sand cast 750s...Honda made 7000+ of the dang things jeez.
There were only 5000 1975 cb400Fs. Heck my 1961 impala SS had only 450 brothers and sisters...
Anyway I love the old speed products. Wheels, exhausts, seats, shocks. Not to mention the frame sets and cafe bits...drool.

OK...just my .02 worth.

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #132 on: September 17, 2009, 11:43:25 AM »
I got the brochure for the EPM wheels with the bike check out the brembo kit.











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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #133 on: October 10, 2009, 04:37:20 AM »
Anyone recognize these?



What's distinctive is that the 'spokes' aren't symmetrical about the central vane; one side is 'thinner' than the other.

Seller says there's no maker's marks on them whatsoever.

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #134 on: October 10, 2009, 04:43:17 AM »
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #135 on: October 10, 2009, 05:02:21 AM »
Thanks Fishhead, you're a star. I've bookmarked that link, I was looking for it on this site - thought it had been posted but couldn't find it at all.

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #136 on: October 10, 2009, 08:44:12 AM »
I saw a similar mag recently in an old chopper mag , bike was from England.. a Triumph.
 The mags on it were listed as CMA, they looked a lot like these just shown, or those mystery mags fron S africa a while back..

 So Now I wonder if CMA and Campagnolo are maybe the same, and wonder if it is the same as the ones that make the bicycle parts?
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2009, 08:45:44 AM »
I thought they were Campy too. I have been looking at a lot of Ducs lately trying to find info on the Brembos. The EPMs I have and the Campys you are about to have show up a lot on vintage race bikes. I would jump on those if you can! And when you get them home if you just cant stand them I would gladly trade you a rusty set of stock rims (oh and I will pay shipping)!
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #138 on: October 10, 2009, 08:47:31 AM »
Yes, Campy is the same...Cars, Motorcycles and Bikes.

The early Ford/Linc Pantera uses Campy wheels. As well as MANY other euro mfgrs.
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #139 on: October 10, 2009, 03:23:11 PM »
Thanks Fasturd, yes I'm about to jump on them, just don't want to appear too eager. Apparently the tire on the front is mint and the rear is just scrubbed in.
I can afford them, but I'm just about at the limit of my self-imposed £1000 rebuild cost. Oh well, money's for spending!

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #140 on: October 10, 2009, 04:42:51 PM »
Sorry to scab onto this thread, but it is Mag wheel related....
I bought a front end from a '75 GL1000 to put on my CB750K.  It came with a Lester Mag.  I prefer spoked wheels.  I have found a guy who is willing to trade an original GL1000 aluminum spoked wheel (with new bearings) for the Lester Mag.  Am I crazy?  Am I leaving a bunch of money on the table here? 

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #141 on: October 10, 2009, 05:31:47 PM »

That's about an even trade if the DID front wheel is in good shape. Besides, getting a matching Lester rear for your CB750K might be a lot more difficult than finding a GL1000 or CB750A 17" rear DID. However, if you want a matching 18" DID rear, well..... good luck!  RR

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #142 on: October 10, 2009, 09:54:34 PM »
Sorry to scab onto this thread, but it is Mag wheel related....
I bought a front end from a '75 GL1000 to put on my CB750K.  It came with a Lester Mag.  I prefer spoked wheels.  I have found a guy who is willing to trade an original GL1000 aluminum spoked wheel (with new bearings) for the Lester Mag.  Am I crazy?  Am I leaving a bunch of money on the table here?  

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Not really, plenty of lester fronts in the world. Especially the GL1000 world. But the GL and CB750 fronts are the same.

Now you need a rear wheel from a CB750A and you will have a matching set of alloys. (17" rear.)
Honda never supplied an 18" rear DID.

I would go for the swap unless you have a mate for the Lester.
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #143 on: October 10, 2009, 09:59:13 PM »
Thanks Fasturd, yes I'm about to jump on them, just don't want to appear too eager. Apparently the tire on the front is mint and the rear is just scrubbed in.
I can afford them, but I'm just about at the limit of my self-imposed £1000 rebuild cost. Oh well, money's for spending!

Good luck in aquiring the wheels. I would jump on them too!

Can we ask how much they are going to cost?

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2009, 10:32:09 PM »
there's a GL 1000 Lester rear wheel on Ebay right now.  Bid only at $49.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-1977-GOLDWING-LESTER-ALUMINUM-MAG-REAR-WHEEL-RIM_W0QQitemZ370257114414QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item56350b352e

Question:  is the GL 1000 Lester front the same as the CB750 front??

I have a Lester 750F rear wheel and want to find a front sometime.  They usually seem to go for $200-$300.
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #145 on: October 11, 2009, 04:10:56 AM »
Thanks Fasturd, yes I'm about to jump on them, just don't want to appear too eager. Apparently the tire on the front is mint and the rear is just scrubbed in.
I can afford them, but I'm just about at the limit of my self-imposed £1000 rebuild cost. Oh well, money's for spending!

Good luck in aquiring the wheels. I would jump on them too!

Can we ask how much they are going to cost?



Well, they're advertised online in a small bike parts shop outside of London. Apparently a local guy sold his F2, forgetting he had the wheels in his garage, so he took them to the local bike shop and sold them. Yep, I'm trying not to think what the current seller bought them for; probably less than £50.
Anyway,  I called the guy up, expressed an interest & asked what he wanted for them.

 "How much are you offering?" He said.
 "How much do you want?" I said.
 "Make me an offer." He said
 "Okay - £50." I said
 "BWAHAHAHAHA" He laughed
 "The tyres are worth twice that on their own!" He added.
 " Hmmm...how old are the tyres? If they're more than 10 years old they're junk"
 "Tyres are fine mate."
 "I'd need to come down, make sure they're what you say they are and that my axles, rear brake plate etc. fits"
 "Okay no probs, come have a look, make me an offer and I'll either throw you out or make you a cup of tea."
 "Fair enough. Monday maybe ?"
 "Fine, see you then"

 So, they're not going to be $10 yard-sale bargains, but they will sort out my disgusting rims and spokes problem once and for all. I'm imagining the finished bike with full Finned engine cover set and Campagnolo wheels and trying not to drool too much.
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #146 on: October 11, 2009, 08:18:19 AM »


Honda never supplied an 18" rear DID.


Actually, Fasturd, Honda made both front 2.15x18 (disk) and rear 2.50x18m (drum) alloy wheels that match the usually seen 19" and 17".  They were standard equipment on the '89 - '90 GB500.  I have a couple sets, but they're difficult to get and NLA from Honda.  I'm considering using a set on a CB550K. The last DID 18" I picked up came in from New Zealand!  8)  RR

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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #147 on: October 11, 2009, 02:28:27 PM »


Honda never supplied an 18" rear DID.


Actually, Fasturd, Honda made both front 2.15x18 (disk) and rear 2.50x18m (drum) alloy wheels that match the usually seen 19" and 17".  They were standard equipment on the '89 - '90 GB500.  I have a couple sets, but they're difficult to get and NLA from Honda.  I'm considering using a set on a CB550K. The last DID 18" I picked up came in from New Zealand!  8)  RR



OK, the fact that they made them and they are unobtainable kind of solves the problem. Those damn GB500s are sooooo popular here in the states NO one is going to sell you a set of the wheels unless the rest of the GB is attached to them...lol. I have always liked that wheelset too and thought they would be handsome on a 400F with a nice new brake caliper too!
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Re: Vintage Mag wheels
« Reply #148 on: October 11, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
I have an 18 inch rear DID 3.50 x 18 but there's no way i will be selling it, i also have the 2.15 DID front to match....

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« Reply #149 on: October 11, 2009, 06:26:02 PM »


Mick, hang on to that 3.50!  They're super rare.  And were you able to find a 2.15x18 for a small hub?  Rare as hen's teeth; I think only the GB's had that combo.

I've been picking up every DID 2.50, 3.00, 3.50 and 4.00x18 I could for the last few years because they seldom come available and they are a perfect match for the common DID front rim.  Now I'm pretty well set to build whatever I want for the rest of my time.

Sell?  They're nutty expensive so probably not, but I might entertain a trade for something I'm looking for .. like a CB550 Dresda swing arm.   :)   

And BTW, Ogri, those Campys are gorgeous!  Good luck on your negotiations.  RR


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