Author Topic: Maybe... (Read 5261 times)

SClay115 · « **on:** March 09, 2009, 07:30:41 PM »

..some of you here can enjoy this picture. And maybe, just maybe, one of you can perhaps shed some light on the vehicle. It's been my background for a long while now, and I'm violently in love with this car. Take a minute to soak in all the details.

I've attached a link to the the full size image as well, as I really think it deserves it. Check it out.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ss4DQN01YyU/SV0ETWCgI8I/AAAAAAAABIo/JVfvNlwjAGI/s1600-h/2008_Road_Trip_1_146.jpg

So, besides the obvious, what can you gather from it?

I've developed a bit of a fondness for these types of machines. And I think it speaks to my motorcyclist side, open to the elements, everything needed to make the vehicle run(presumably fast, by the looks of this one), stop, and turn, but nothing else. Shoot, if I lived in a dryer climate, I'd drive something like this thing everyday. Not to mention it's just about one of the coolest flats racers I've seen.

So ok, supercharger I see, love the gauges, inline looks like, someone mentioned somewhere else it might look like a diesel, possible, I have no clue honestly on the powerplant. But dig on the rivets holding this thing together, like a WWII prop fighter decided to make offspring with a T-Bucket. What does that frame look like? Possibly hand made, again, I don't have enough information about the picture, and I'm not good enough at identifying vintage car parts. What do you folks think? Imagine if you were trying to build something similar, what would be a list of parts to compile? Not including hand made parts, which I can visually see there is a lot of.

Steve

Steve

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2009, 07:42:22 PM »

It's a straight 8 petrol motor, it's not a diesel as it has a ignition distributor.

Sam.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2009, 08:00:16 PM »

It may be a good idea to bring it to this guys attention, Keith is big into salt flat racing, here's his profile, you can PM him and ask, he may know the car.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?action=profile;u=5583

Sam.

SClay115 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2009, 08:57:12 PM »

Quote from: Samcr750 on March 09, 2009, 07:42:22 PM

It's a straight 8 petrol motor, it's not a diesel as it has a ignition distributor.

Sam.

Yea I'm an idiot. It was mentioned somewhere else and seemed logical only because of it's apparent chunkiness, little did I know that I just wasn't paying attention...

Steve

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2009, 09:22:18 PM »

Here ya go Steve.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,5686.0.html

Sam.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2009, 10:46:06 PM »

looks like a t-bucket with the "t" part removed.

obviously a z-ed frame. or maybe not. might just be axle over frame in the rear. was a big thing in the 50's. my grandfather had one.

body looks channeled so might be a straight frame after all. yep.... I'm a moron.

could that be a packard straight-8 Sam? with dare I say it...... a supercharger?!?!?!?!?!

woooooooweeeee that would be nice!!!

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #6 on:** March 09, 2009, 10:48:33 PM »

HA! Sam I just checked out that link. Forget all I said.

that is a nice ride. period.

scunny · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2009, 12:05:41 AM »

Sam Green.............................forum junkie

martino1972 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2009, 12:13:10 AM »

and now it's my background pic as well......

tramp · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:07:58 AM »

what every four wheeler should look like
very nice job

SClay115 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:36:34 AM »

Thanks again for doing the detective work on that one for me Sam! I'm glad everyone can dig it, I just wish it was in my garage instead of my background....

Steve

gerhed · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2009, 07:44:37 AM »

great looking machine for sure !
Could be '32 Ford wheels with their (juice brakes).
Outer body is definitely from a Model A --see gas cap on cowell (sp?).
Dual Strombergs.
Old school, as they say, but right on target.
A real lead sled !

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2009, 11:09:58 AM »

Quote from: gerhed on March 10, 2009, 07:44:37 AM

great looking machine for sure !
Could be '32 Ford wheels with their (juice brakes).
Outer body is definitely from a Model A --see gas cap on cowell (sp?).
Dual Strombergs.
Old school, as they say, but right on target.
A real lead sled !

Could it be a cut up rumble?

Spelled "cowl" - per Dictionary.com. Had me going too.

DammitDan · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2009, 12:02:30 PM »

What's up with the hubcaps?

Wheels taken from a V-8 vehicle?

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2009, 12:25:22 PM »

Quote from: gerhed on March 10, 2009, 07:44:37 AM

great looking machine for sure !
Could be '32 Ford wheels with their (juice brakes).
Outer body is definitely from a Model A --see gas cap on cowell (sp?).
Dual Strombergs.
Old school, as they say, but right on target.
A real lead sled !

I figured it would get you drooling Ger

Sam

VonYinzer · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2009, 02:19:08 PM »

well the body is probobly late 20s but id guess not much is original.... The wheels are model T or A, can never remember. the doors are custom built as well. Those seats are "wwII era" bomber seats. or knockoffs. you can get em a bunch of places, like speedway motors. thats a 4 spoke "sprint car" steering wheel, which may or may not be original. probobly not since originals are rediculous in price. probobly a 3 on the tree trans, maybey early 60s as there still dirt cheap converted into a floor shift. that beehive oil filter is worth stupid money if original, even a re pop is several hundred dollars. it may be a straight 6 truck motor from an industrial vehicle. not a lot of top end, but tons of tourque. since there seems to be a lot of military influence id say the motors from an military vehicle. king bee headlights?

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2009, 02:34:57 PM »

It's a straight 8.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5686.0;attach=10800;image

Sam.

VonYinzer · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2009, 02:40:14 PM »

Quote from: Samcr750 on March 10, 2009, 02:34:57 PM

It's a straight 8.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5686.0;attach=10800;image

Sam.

my bad..... should look...than type

billybobobrain · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2009, 02:46:41 PM »

It would be much easier to shed some light on it if it were in my garage, I promiss I'll give it back in October, Novemberish.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2009, 08:46:58 PM »

I think I've found the OWNER

Sam.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2009, 01:11:08 PM »

Seems it wasn't the owner but his father, more in this thread.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,5686.0.html

Sam.

RayTheRat · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2009, 05:11:25 AM »

I'm not the owner nor his father...just a photographer that's shot it numerous times and come to know the owner a bit.

I wrote a bit about it on landracing.com: the rat's registered as a 1930 Ford (Model A) roadster. I asked the question kinda pointedly cuz the body looks more like a roadster pickup, but that's not how it's listed. Go figger.

The wheels are (I think) 30-31 Model A (19") in front and 35 Ford (16") in the rear. The motor' s a straight 8 Packard with a McCulloch centrifugal blower on it. A couple of years ago the owner (who really does some high quality fabrication work) told me that he couldn't run much boost cuz it'd blow oil out everywhere if he did.

Not positive on the transmission, but it's a top-shifter 3-speed (I think.) The gauges are plumbed inline, at least the oil pressure and boost. Frame's handbuilt and yes, it's Z'ed. Btw, first year for hydraulic brakes on a Ford was 39...not to bust anyone's chops, but just for the sake of accuracy. I'm not sure if that's the year of brakes on it, cuz 39-48 are pretty similar.

The owner's father who was referred to owns this rat:

This one's a Model A sedan with a Pontiac I-8 motor and 7 Strombergs on a log manifold. (Don't tell anybody that I told ya, but at that cruise night, only 3 of 'em were connected to the linkage.) It runs a Hydramatic trans and has the radiator mounted in the rear cooled with an electric fan. Interior's upholstered in license plates. The builder's known as Little Billy and both he and his son are affiliated with the As*hole Garage in Salt Lake City, Ut. Their motto is one I've been using forever: "Better'n it Wuz."

Ray the Rat
Lotta photos of stuff with wheels...and some other junk
(some bike racing on the LSR pages and some 2-wheeled racing...hidden in the Sports Car racing 2008 section)
http://www.chevyasylum.com
http://www.raytherat.com

754 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:45:33 AM »

Welcome RAY,
sure enjoy your pics on Landracing forum..

Hope youi can join in the fun at Bub bike week...

754

RayTheRat · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:48:26 AM »

Thanks, man. Yes, I do plan to be at BUB as well as the Streamliner Shootout. And if things go as planned, I'll also be at the Cycle Fest at Miller Motorsports Park to shoot that event. I'm not gonna have press credentials for the World Superbike race, but I'll be there as a spectator.

I'll be the old fart drivin the red Suburban. Come say hi if ya get a chance while yer out on the salt.

RtR

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2009, 12:04:01 PM »

Quote from: RayTheRat on March 12, 2009, 05:11:25 AM

The motor' s a straight 8 Packard with a McCulloch centrifugal blower on it. A couple of years ago the owner (who really does some high quality fabrication work) told me that he couldn't run much boost cuz it'd blow oil out everywhere if he did.

Don't need much boost when you used to pull trains.

Sigh... the days when big motors were put in gigantic cars.... I miss em.

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Author Topic: Maybe... (Read 5261 times)

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