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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #150 on: May 17, 2010, 01:20:00 AM »
Or how about this?

That's not bad, but just a tad too red for me.  I really want to see that Corvette in person to see whether it's really the color I want... but judging from all the images I've see online, I really like it.

Days 49 & 50 update:

Hella busy this weekend, so I've got a bunch of pics to post tonight.  I spent about six hours down in Menlo Park again on Saturday doing my usual blasting and powder coating for the evening.  Couldn't get it all done before having to leave at midnight (again).  I need to just plan on being there the entire day, I suppose.  Today I worked on the cylinder block and got it to separate from the lower part of the engine (finally!)  Another massive PITA.  Had to resort to buying the largest 3/8" flat head screwdriver that Ace Hardware carries in order to get enough leverage inside those pry spots; however, I managed to split them on the very first pry that I tried with it.  A $7 tool for precisely 2 minutes of use.  Sigh.  I'm sure it'll come in handy for something else?

Today I also installed the lower tapered bearings on the steering stem.  More details on that below to go along with the pics.  This week I'm going to drop the frame and swing arm off at the powder coater, as my silver metallic powder re-order shipment came in on Friday.  So I documented all the points on the frame that I need to have masked off so the coater knows exactly what to do.  I not only marked them all with masking tape but took detailed pictures of the masking afterwards.  The masking is just there to indicate which holes to mask off; the masking tape is not the high-temperature kind so it's not a real mask job.  I also plan on dropping off a slew of bolts and miscellaneous small hardware parts at the electroplater down in Hayward to get stripped and galvanized (zinc plating).

Okay, on to the pics.  The first handful are of the parts I powdered on Saturday.  I got the upper and lower triples done, as well as the center stand and a footrest bracket I missed from last time.  I also applied a second coat to the battery box in order to cover a few light spots that I missed the first coat.  I'll start there, since that part is now finished.  I bought some replacement rubber pads (about $1 each) and a new battery strap from BikeBandit:


Looks good, and I'm happy with the results, so it's now part of the "completed" stash.

The center stand took some finagling to figure out how to get it to fit within the curing oven.  When carrying this by two small metal hooks, it's surprisingly difficult to hook properly onto the metal grate inside the oven.  Fortunately, I cook all my parts in the oven first before laying down any powder to drive out any stray oil/grease/water.  This allows me to test to see if the part can reliably be hooked onto the grate without much difficulty.  This center stand is about the limit in terms of size for that particular oven.  Its weight is also somewhat cumbersome.  You can't touch or even breathe on the part while transferring it into the oven, so there are practical constraints you have to think about.


You really see all the little weld splatter spots when blasting a part and coating it in a lighter color like this.  I really didn't notice them all that much when it was blasted, and I was trying to get it coated right away before any rust started taking hold.  Had I known these little nibs were sticking out all over the place, I would have filed them down first before blasting.  Oh well... it's a center stand, and they're original, so I suppose it's part of the bike's charm now. Certainly not going to do anything about them now...

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Upper triple:




... and lower:


I was satisfied with how the lower triple came out, so I decided to try my hand at the tapered bearing install today.  I followed this thread very closely while doing it.  Kirkn has done a marvelous job of documenting his bearing install, and it's far better than I could ever hope to do.  Mine basically went exactly like his, even down to which spacer was used. 

I first bought a 3' section of 1.25" ID PVC pipe to serve as the distributed drift.  I then pieced together the old ball-bearing race and cone in order to figure out which washer from the All Balls kit to use.  There were only two choices, and I ended up using the thinner washer as it was an almost perfect match for the height.  I had the stem sitting in the freezer for about an hour, and put the new bearing into the oven at 200 °F for 30 minutes.  Dropped the spacer washer down onto the stem, then quickly went to work on installing the bearing.  Even with the expansion differences between the two parts, they still didn't just "go together".  I had to pound mercilessly on the PVC tube in order to seat the bearing all the way flush against the triple surface.  I used the broad face of a normal carpenter's hammer to do this after placing the thicker "spare" washer on the top of the bearing to serve as a buffer (visible in the lower-left corner below).  Two thermally-conductive metals at different temperatures in intimate contact with each other quickly come into equilibrium, and so I figure I had maybe 20 seconds before my heating/cooling was completely for naught.  Didn't really seem to make much of a difference, honestly, although I haven't exactly tried it without freezing the stem and heating the bearing, either.  After much pounding, the bearing was completely flush at the bottom, and I was done.  I then packed it full of waterproof (at least, water resistant) bearing grease and added it to my growing "completed stash":



The last order of business tonight are a few pics of the pistons, which are revealed now that the stupid cylinder block has come off.  I'll post some more detailed pics of them after full removal, including shots of the steel cylinder liners.  I took some pics earlier of the liner walls, but my camera focused on objects on the other side of the tube and so there's no focus on the walls themselves... DOH.





Every week I finish some things, and try not to look too much into that box of parts awaiting my attention (the wheels are screaming at me).  Slowly but surely things are coming along.  I'm really looking forward to getting the frame done this week so I have a backbone to start putting things back in place.

My ToDo list, off the top of my head:
  • Split the engine cases, remove all inner workings, prep for paint, paint, etc.
  • Disassemble the front and rear wheel hubs, figure out what to do with the rims & spokes
  • Get the bolts to the electroplater
  • Have the front and rear fender chemically stripped of the old chrome
  • Decide whether to build a custom front fender from fiberglass, buy a custom steel one, or chop the original
  • Sign up for a laser-cutting class at TechShop to learn how to cut some new dial faces for the speedo and tach
  • Dismantle tach gauge housing to get at the dial face
  • Get into a welding class in order to learn how to repair the corroded lip on the seat pan
  • Dismantle the front brake assembly, inspect for rebuild, clean & polish support arm, powder coat the housing

There's more, but it's late and my brain no work so good....

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #151 on: May 17, 2010, 11:00:38 AM »
Holy cow Ty, you were busy.. Makes the rest of us look like slackers.. Great work tho.. I am chomping at the bit to see her completed..

Bet you are also!

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« Reply #152 on: May 17, 2010, 11:48:46 AM »
Holy cow Ty, you were busy.. Makes the rest of us look like slackers.. Great work tho.. I am chomping at the bit to see her completed..

Bet you are also!

You have no idea!  I can't use weather as an excuse, since it's beautiful here pretty much year-round; however, I really want to ride her at some point soon.  The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter...

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« Reply #153 on: May 17, 2010, 02:19:21 PM »
Holy cow Ty, you were busy.. Makes the rest of us look like slackers.. Great work tho.. I am chomping at the bit to see her completed..

Bet you are also!

You have no idea!  I can't use weather as an excuse, since it's beautiful here pretty much year-round; however, I really want to ride her at some point soon.  The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter...
Go toward the light Ty go toward the light its good its friendly and it will make you happy!!!

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #154 on: May 17, 2010, 04:28:51 PM »
Ty,

What kind of budget do you have on the bike for fender and the like...

What color is the bike going to be?

Fiberglass can be cool but unless you have experience I don't advise going that route.
Reason I ask is if you make a fiberglass fender and want to spend the bucks and invest the work then
there is always some bling fabrics like Texalium which is a colored fiberglass. It is used a lot on automotive bling for speedo surrounds and some custom builds.
It is best suited for flat or gently curving surfaces.
The Texalium has a coating of aluminum and as such picks up the light pretty well and gives a nice effect.
It is very springy or stiff. I was thinking a Texalium layup in the center of the fender and colored fiberglass, a black fiberglass surrounding it would make a slick looking fender. The Blue Texalium really pops in the sunlight and the Red is nice but the blue and gold are best I think.
You'd have to do the layup with a clear top coat and either paint to mask where you don't have the Texalium.
Carbon Fiber Tow in the layup below and around the peripheral areas of the fender to help give it lots of strength.

Layers of fiberglass in a good UV stable epoxy above the Texalium will be transparent. A few layers of 2 oz satin cloth with first layer straight then 2nd & 3rd at 45 bias angles to that first piece before the Texalium and then a couple 10oz layers of "boat cloth" plain weave or the like.

You would need to make a mold or lay it up over a form.

Carbon Kevlar cloths sound cool but if you cut into the kevlar it dulls blades like no tomorrow and fuzzes badly when you try to sand it. Very sharp tools required for kevlar.
Kevlar is good for impact resistant layups.

If you go with a fiberglass fender you'll want to coat the wheel side with a layer of undercoating to give the fiberglass some stone protection from star cracks.
Gel coated fiberglass is very suseptible to star cracks.
Typical hand layups are easier to deal with than gel coat layups.
You can use foam (blue or pink) as a form for a one-off as a male plug to do the layup over.
Female molds are best for a nice smooth finish but more work to create.

Personally, unless you are going to invest a lot in the bike I'd either go chrome or sand the chrome and paint over it. Use a good paint and strip the oils off before and you end up with something you like. The paint will need a mechanical adhesion so you are going to paint it after scuffing it up pretty good.


If you strip the chrome on the wheels and have the shop replate you could get them do plate your spokes as well. The spokes are typically zinc plated. Tasmotorsports carries the HD drop center rims you can mate to your Honda hub and carry spokes of the proper length if you want a nice chrome spoked wheel.

Having the wheels stripped you end up with something needed still. Powder coating if you can find a color that coordinates or contrasts with your intended paint looks good.

West Coast Custom Chrome does very nice work and aren't too expensive as chrome shops go...
VJMC club member up in NH swears by them and they do the chrome and plating on all his bikes.
www.westcoastchrome.com  in Modesto, CA

Have them give you a quote after giving them photos of what you want done.
They can even do Chrome plating on Aluminum...

Shane Rivet is the VJMC member that recommends them and he indicated they will do exhausts if you remove the baffles and do your best on cleaning it out. Not too many chrome shops will rechrome exhausts.

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #155 on: May 17, 2010, 06:03:41 PM »
What kind of budget do you have on the bike for fender and the like...

Wow, that's a long post!  So the color on the bike is going to (hopefully) be this:



I originally just planned on repainting the existing fender, although I wanted it a bit shorter.  After looking carefully at it, however, I noticed that thin lip going around the perimeter.  This would be difficult to reproduce or even bob without it looking discontinuous.  That led me to think about doing a fiberglass replacement.  I don't like the look of meshed fiberglass, and it doesn't go along with anything else I'm doing on the bike, so if I went the fiberglass route it would definitely be painted to match the tank and side covers.  I'm aware of the necessity of making a decent mold, so I had planned on using a CNC router down at TechShop to fashion two halves of a female mold, then fasten them together. 

I have no experience with working with fiberglass, but I'm willing to learn.  It might be much more work than I'm willing to suffer through, however, so I'm considering again just using the existing fender and relocating the main support brace to provide a more symmetric look.  I'm going to take both fenders to the chrome shop and have them strip off the old chrome for me, returning the part to steel again.  I don't want the stay bar to go back on there, so I'll have to fill in some holes with JB weld or something similar.

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« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2010, 12:02:48 AM »
The Texalium is like blue carbon fiber...the most common carbon fiber for cosmetic appearances everyone thinks of when you say carbon fiber is a twill cloth. The Texalium is woven in that same twill weave.

Here's some Ebay ads for the stuff...

Yeah, that look is neat, but not for this bike.  I'm leaning more towards just painting the fender as it is.  Maybe I'll get adventurous and relocate the mounting points a little bit to make it more symmetric, like on earlier 500 models or even the 750.  It seems the 550F Super Sport model has a shortened front tip to the fender, as the second stay arm that is typically there on other bikes is just not present (possibly not needed?)  Maybe I'll just get a fender off a 750 and use that... I think they're wholly interchangeable.

Okay, on to the standard weekend update, days 53, 56, and 57 combined into one:

I dropped the frame and swing arm off at the powder coater's place on Wednesday, and spoke to the guy about being careful around the serial number, and what to mask off.  I left feeling really good about them.  Hopefully everything will turn out perfectly.  I gave them a 2 lb bottle of the metallic silver powder that I've been using on the smaller parts I've done myself.  They're going to apply a zinc protective coating first before shooting any powder, then do a clear coat on top.  Should last a long time.

Also on Wednesday I dropped a big box of nuts, bolts, washers, and miscellaneous parts off at the electroplater.  I first took pictures of every last piece that I wanted done, and printed them off at actual size on my printer.  So my drop-off included this thick-ass binder of digital images, which the electroplater was really grateful for.  He said too many people drop stuff off with no documentation, and then complain about parts missing later.  Far too easy for stuff to go missing, especially with literally hundreds of small parts (I submitted a LOT).  Hopefully with the binder, they'll know whether they need to go looking for stuff before I show up.

My last task on Wednesday was dropping the fenders, chain guard, and foot controls off at the chrome plater, which is conveniently right next door to the electroplater (literally, not even figuratively).  They're going to electrochemically strip the chrome off, bead blast, then protect the raw steel with an acid etch.  This will leave a nice, perfect metal surface from which to lay down the paint.

Other than driving around dropping stuff off, I spent most of this last week working on the engine.  I disassembled the pistons and started cleaning them.  I bought some cans of SeaFoam, after reading a number of people laud its ability to clean carbon deposits.  I placed one of the pistons in this petrochemical soup and sonicated it for well over an hour.  It worked okay, but not great.  I tried my own home-brewed concotions on the next piston.  I found the best solution was a mixture of xylenes and acetone.  A quick sonication in this solution quickly removed the bulk of the carbon.  What remained was (somewhat) easily removed with a soft toothbrush.  Got two pistons pretty damn clean that way; the other two I'll try some derivatives of this mix and see how it goes.

With the pistons removed from the crankshaft, it was time to split the cases.  Cracked off the clutch cover, yanked the clutch, pulled out the selector gear and related levers, and a number of plates and circlips inside that housing.  Found the 2,000 bolts that tie the top and bottom halves together and carefully documented them all.  Took a while to crack the cases in half, which is in line with my Achilles heel this entire engine disassembly process... getting two god-damned surfaces separated.  Had to use a small flat-head screwdriver as a wedge in an area with a thick spacing to crack them apart.  Managed to do it with minimal gouging in the surface.  Once they were cracked, it was smooth sailing.  Just pulled the top half right off and set aside!  What a tremendously rewarding feeling.

With the cases split, I went to town on the internals.  Pulled out the selector drum and gearbox, along with some other gear thing from the top half.  Followed the Haynes manual pretty closely.  There are some slight problems with the order of things, which I discovered just from not being able to extract something that should have otherwise been fine.  It's pretty intuitive, I'd say.  I took about 500 pictures during the entire process, a small smattering of which are given below.  Also made two quick movies to document some of the more tricky parts where pictures alone would not have sufficed.

After pulling out all of the gears from the top half, I went to town cleaning and degreasing it for paint prep with some simple green and hot water.  Scraped off the cylinder block gasket bits, the case mating surfaces glue, and tried to eradicate all of the grease and oil from the small crevices in the exterior sections.  Couldn't get it all out, but it will come eventually.  Just have to mask off the machined sections, mating surfaces, and tapped holes, then she'll be ready for blasting, priming, and painting.  Going with the standard duplicolor silver engine paint, as I want the engine to be as original-looking as possible.

Still trying to get the primary shaft out of the lower half.  That's the only thing holding me up at the moment from being able to clean and prep that section.

Okay, enough text... here is a sample of some of the pics I took along the way.














I'll post pics of the cleaned pistons once I get them all done.  Then hopefully the bottom half of the case once I get that damn primary shaft out.  I hope to be able to get everything prepped, primed, and painted by the end of this coming week so I can start engine re-assembly and time it well with when the frame comes back.

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2010, 12:17:42 AM »
holy crap, all that stuff is clean. you don't really have to blast the cases to paint them, they are already so damn clean. I'm going to paint my case after assembling them. a lot less to mask off that way.


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« Reply #159 on: May 24, 2010, 12:21:11 AM »
holy crap, all that stuff is clean. you don't really have to blast the cases to paint them, they are already so damn clean. I'm going to paint my case after assembling them. a lot less to mask off that way.

Nah, the pictures make them look a lot nicer than they actually are.  The gasket remover spray ate away the old paint, so it's peeling like crazy.  There's also some light pitting there on the top surface, near the starter cover.  Perhaps a strong blast with a power water washer would do the trick, though.

I'm concerned about painting over mated surfaces and gluing them together... they were hard enough to take apart with just the gasket; doubly so if there's paint in the seams, too.
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« Reply #160 on: May 24, 2010, 11:59:19 AM »
yeah, don't paint the mating surfaces, I'm saying that it would be easier to paint the case when it's all in one piece. mask all the holes or use crap screws, then I/you don't have to mask quite as much to not get paint on the inside or edges. that was my plan for mine.

whatever works, though. you seem to be cruising through this, you'll be done before me for sure.

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« Reply #161 on: May 24, 2010, 05:04:26 PM »
yeah, don't paint the mating surfaces, I'm saying that it would be easier to paint the case when it's all in one piece. mask all the holes or use crap screws, then I/you don't have to mask quite as much to not get paint on the inside or edges. that was my plan for mine.

whatever works, though. you seem to be cruising through this, you'll be done before me for sure.

Not painting the mating surfaces directly, but the border between them.  That is, the gasket itself.  I'm afraid if I paint the cases when they're assembled together that paint will seep into the mating surface area and bind them together.  I've read complaints on these forums about some PO painting the engine while assembled and the current owner having to chip away in order to split something.  It also seems somewhat impractical to paint all of the engine while it's a giant block of metal.  Definitely easier in terms of masking, but the engine heft can't be discounted, either.  Having a nice rotisserie-style engine stand would make that point moot, however. 

At any rate, I don't mind masking everything off.  I spent two hours on that top case alone, carefully scraping off the gasket and glue bits with a razor blade after scrubbing it down with simple green.  That's why it looks so damn clean ;)

I think I'll try the local power wash station and see if I can't strip off the outer paint with just a blast of water.  It flakes off pretty easily with a light brush, so it should be pretty straightforward.  Any rough/pitted spots I'll either sand down or hit with a stiff rotary brush attached to a power drill.  Media blasting would be fast, but I'm a little worried about getting aluminum oxide powder all over everything.  Maybe there's a hydroblasting company in the Bay area?

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« Reply #162 on: May 29, 2010, 05:44:16 PM »
Day 63.5 update:

Hard to believe it's been 9 weeks already.  Man, how time has flown by.  I got the frame and swingarm back from the powder coater down in Hayward, and they both look fantastic!  Couldn't wait to share some pics, some I'm going to do that now before continuing on the rest of the afternoon.  I've already started putting small things onto the frame while working on the engine at the same time.  I'm not going to start throwing anything serious on there until the engine is back in place, so that I can do the "lay the engine and frame on their side" trick.  I've installed the lower tapered bearing race, side cover grommets, and the shock bushings into the swingarm.  The new bronze swingarm bushings and upper tapered bearing race are in the freezer awaiting their chance to get installed.

On with the pics:






How I pressed in the shock bushings with the vise:




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« Reply #163 on: May 29, 2010, 05:50:25 PM »
frame looks great!

So, what did you do with the frame tag?  Did they tape it off, or did you remove it?

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« Reply #164 on: May 29, 2010, 07:11:44 PM »
I am so envious I so wish I had done powder coating.. Looks fantastic.. Love the color!

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« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2010, 09:44:30 PM »
frame looks great!

So, what did you do with the frame tag?  Did they tape it off, or did you remove it?

I cut it off with the dremmel before handing the frame to the powder coaters.  They then masked off the two rivet holes.  I've since scanned in the original tag at as high a resolution as I could, and have started to clean up the image so I can have a new decal made up for it.  I'll then get a thin piece of aluminum and mate the two so that it can be placed back on the frame with new rivets.  There just wasn't any way to save the original without wrecking the aluminum, and there just wasn't any way I was going to let that area underneath the tag not get cleaned up and powder-coated like the rest of the frame.  I'm really happy with the way it turned out, so the extra effort in making a new tag will well be worth it.  At any rate, I've been told the DMV inspectors don't even care about that tag; the S/N engraved on the other side is the one that matters.

I am so envious I so wish I had done powder coating.. Looks fantastic.. Love the color!

Yeah, well I'm envious that you're out there riding while I'm in the garage on a beautiful 70° day pressing bushings into a swingarm!   :)  My bike is in 8000 pieces right now... lol.  I also really like this color... so happy with the decision.  Which is good, since it's a little hard to change now!

Follow-up to my earlier post: mounted the steering stem after installing the upper tapered bearing race and packing the upper bearing with waterproof bearing grease.  The race went in pretty smoothly, after letting it sit in the freezer for a couple hours.  I then tightened down the upper nut a little more than what would be considered smooth motion of the triple.  This is to let the bearings, races, and rest of the the stem "settle" somewhat under compression.  I'll adjust the tightness later on when it comes time to install the forks and fix the suspension.

Had to take a break to watch the Blackhawks win the first game of the cup finals... go Hawks!  Afterwards I installed the bronze swing arm bushings after again freezing them for a few hours.  They also went in fairly smoothly.  Had to use a hammer and a block of wood to get them to seat all the way down.  The first few hits were really productive; then the bushing I'm sure heated up from the friction and contact with the frame, thus expanded back to normal size.  So the remaining hits were more aggressive to get the bushings fully seated and flush.  Forgot to put the collar in the freezer at the same time, so it won't fit in there yet.  It's freezing now, so I'll get it tomorrow.

I love having a platform now to start installing things... makes me feel like I've passed the hump and provides further motivation to go quickly.  Still can't get the damn primary drive shaft out of the lower engine case, which is keeping me from removing the crankshaft and having the entire lower case completely disassembled.  I really want to be able to have that cleaned up and painted this coming week so I can re-assemble the engine and get it mounted.  I might have to put together some kind of rig and use the threaded inner diameter of the shaft to extract it.  Right now I just have a long bolt screwed into the shaft with some free washers on it, like a slide hammer.  It just isn't budging.  Maybe if I had more weight on there?  How do others get this thing out?

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« Reply #166 on: May 29, 2010, 09:50:24 PM »
True I have done some riding, however between back problems and now fork issues (nothing major) I have not been on it in like 2 weeks.. At least you are making progress and at the end of the day, you will be happy you did it all. Besides, your in CA, correct? So you have riding season almost all year around so.. I am really not feeling that bad for you.. ;)

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« Reply #167 on: May 30, 2010, 07:12:16 PM »
Ty,

Frame looks fabulous! Lucky guy to have such a nice looking frame...
Bike's gonna look great when all reassembled.

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« Reply #168 on: June 05, 2010, 08:46:51 PM »
Wow! Ty, you've done a heck of job on this rebuild.  I really like your "resto-mod" approach.  One question, did you replace the regulator and recitfier?  Can I ask what you sourced for these parts?  Cheers!

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« Reply #169 on: June 06, 2010, 12:06:34 AM »
Ty,

Did you get the primary shaft out?
There are some retainers in the case...look in the corners of the top of the case half and you can see the sliver of them between the shaft and the case.

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #170 on: June 06, 2010, 06:43:02 PM »
updates?

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #171 on: June 08, 2010, 02:37:13 AM »
Wow! Ty, you've done a heck of job on this rebuild.  I really like your "resto-mod" approach.  One question, did you replace the regulator and recitfier?  Can I ask what you sourced for these parts?  Cheers!

Thanks!  Still a long way to go, but it's coming along.  I did replace both the regulator and rectifier.  I had all kinds of trouble with the R/R unit on my '99 SuperHawk, which I eventually replaced with one from a Yamaha R1.  So I figured if Honda didn't have it figured out in 1999, they didn't have it figured out in 1975, either.  I bought them both from Oregon Motorcycle Parts.  Fast delivery, and they look to be of very high quality.  No tests yet to see how they actually work, however.

Did you get the primary shaft out?
There are some retainers in the case...look in the corners of the top of the case half and you can see the sliver of them between the shaft and the case.

updates?

No, the damn primary shaft is still in there.  I'll look for those retainers.  Nothing in the manuals about them, so I thought I had everything I needed out... but maybe not?  It won't budge at all, so maybe something is restricting it.


Day 72 update:

I've been crazy busy the past couple weeks at school doing research trying to get a publication out.  So Lolita has suffered somewhat.  I have been pecking away at the little things.  I got the swing arm collar installed, started assembling the upper triple/gauge/indicator assembly, and spent about 4 hours last weekend down at TechShop finishing up most of the powder coating.  I applied a clear coat to almost all of the silver parts I had done earlier, then touched up with black on a couple parts from the upper triple that had been inadvertently missed due to the coat hanger touching the surface.  This past weekend I primed and did the first coat on the four exhaust collars.  Just using black Krylon BBQ paint, which will handle high temperatures.

This morning the electroplater called and said my parts were ready, so I swung by there in the afternoon, giddy in anticipation.  I was not disappointed!  They did a really great job on all of the parts I submitted, with only a couple exceptions.  I ended up giving them some 150 metal pieces to do a clear zinc coating.  A couple small parts, like a washer or two, turned out a little whitish and not shiny like a mirror.  Then one of the passenger footrest pillions still has some problems on the far end.  But all in all, I love the results and am very happy... and, no parts were lost! 
So I can recommend Electroplating Specialties in Hayward, CA for anyone who would like to get some parts plated.  They took about 2.5 weeks to get them done, but I told them initially that there was no big rush.  Their website is straight out of 1995.  They cleaned all the rust off of the parts first, and even took off some paint from a few pieces.  Almost everything looks brand-new; so shiny!

I first took careful life-sized images of everything and printed them out before dropping anything off.  That way if anything were to get lost, they'd know about it first.  It also helped me to re-organize everything once I got them back, since they took all of my carefully separated baggies of parts and threw them all together into a giant heap (see image below).  That's how they got plated... all at once in a giant batch.  Unfortunately for me, I have since discovered that I forgot a couple things that I'd really like to have plated.  That's the trouble with having parts all over the place.  Maybe if I scrounge everything together they'd cut me a deal for having done business with them before.

How I received the parts:


and after separating them for identification:


With the printouts in hand, identifying them was fast and easy.  Nothing left over, which is a good thing!

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #172 on: June 08, 2010, 05:06:13 AM »
Looks great!  Really turned into a ground up resto for ya!

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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #173 on: June 08, 2010, 05:07:46 AM »
That rod for your rear drum isn't bent?
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Re: '75 CB550F restoration: Project Lolita
« Reply #174 on: June 08, 2010, 05:36:21 AM »
Yea, looks bent to me, however I bet it can be straightened easy enough.. This is going to be a dandy restore, attention to detail is amazing..

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