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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2012, 07:58:20 AM »
Lol awesome!!

I picked up the forks from Zdeno cycle salvage in Kitchener Ontario for 450$. But all they had left for them were the two legs ans bottom triple clamp/steer tube.

So i'm having to shop around for the rest of the parts. Luckly i found a guy here that has almost everything else i need. I'll be seeing him on Sunday.

I can't wait to shoot another video! I have a close friend that owns a production company, all the gear / camera car / cameras the film gods can shake their fingers at.. And he's offered to shoot the next vid. I have already picked the sound track and drew the shot list.. Hahaha.. Though, its not Black Keys..... I'm sure you will like it even more... But you'll have to wait to find out.. Lol
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2012, 09:03:11 AM »
My plan is a disc/fork swap too.  I also have a 78' 550.  I was lucky to find the entire front end off a 2005 cbr600rr on Kijiji.  By my measurements thus far it should be a perfect fit at the steering stem area even the 550 ignition key switch should fit where the cbr ignition key switch is on the top triple AND still have the steering lock work.  Since you've already fitted yours, I was wondering a few things...

Did the steering stop on the bottom of the cbr triple work with the stop on the 550 frame?
Will you be runnig a mechanical speedo drive?  i was thinking of getting some cbr1100 discs (more offset) in hopes of fitting a mechanical speedo drive in there...
Do you think you could make me disc/hub/axle adapter plates as well?  I live in the K/W area

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »
Hmmmm? I was under the impression that the mechanical speedo won't work? And the only fix is to run a magnetic pick up speedo?

I personally won't be making the adapter plates. I'll be giving the measurments to the machinist and he can spin them out faster and better than I.

As for the stops on the bottom triple.. I believe they still meet up. But let me double check that and confirm.
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2012, 10:35:37 AM »
There are people on this forum that have said that a mechanical speedo from a Kawa ZRX will work.  As long as it has a 25mm axle and a 2240/60 speedo ratio... but i have yet to see someone actually put that theory to practice.  Even though this fork swap is a big change.. i'd like to keep some semblance of the original look.

Do you have contact info of that machinist you're using? Are they in the GTA?

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2012, 11:26:26 AM »
Hello

 I have plans to make the same tail as yours.
 but ... where did you cut the stock frame, under the seat.?

 The project looks super nice.

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM »
There are people on this forum that have said that a mechanical speedo from a Kawa ZRX will work.  As long as it has a 25mm axle and a 2240/60 speedo ratio... but i have yet to see someone actually put that theory to practice.  Even though this fork swap is a big change.. i'd like to keep some semblance of the original look.

Do you have contact info of that machinist you're using? Are they in the GTA?

Hmm? Very interesting!! I have not heard that before. Are you able to find me some threads on this dicsusion?

I have these guys ; http://www.viking-eng.com/ do some work for me before. And did a good job.. Thats where i'll be going back to again.
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2012, 11:33:42 AM »
Hello

 I have plans to make the same tail as yours.
 but ... where did you cut the stock frame, under the seat.?

 The project looks super nice.

 Regards
 Martin Denmark

Thanks man!!
I can't remeber the exact measurement. But it was more or less and inch forward on the stock shock mounts. And removed/relocated/refabricated the new mounts and suport tubes.
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2012, 11:37:57 AM »
Hello again

 A little extra question :-)

 I bought the bearings, etc. to GSXR convertion, but have now read your
 CBR fork steer tube fitted directly into the CD 550 frame.

 There was no adjustment to mount Into the tube frame, with bearings etc?

 Many thanks for your help.

 Martin Denmark

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2012, 12:06:54 PM »
Hello again

 A little extra question :-)

 I bought the bearings, etc. to GSXR convertion, but have now read your
 CBR fork steer tube fitted directly into the CD 550 frame.

 There was no adjustment to mount Into the tube frame, with bearings etc?

 Many thanks for your help.

 Martin Denmark

Hey Martin,
All the did so far. Is take the bearings, races, head set nuts and lock rings from the cb550 forks and put it all on the Cbr600rr forks. So far, i see no issue. I did a shake test looking for flex or wiggle.. So far, all is good. I know I can get a bearing kit from allsballsracing.com but at this point. I don't think i need to. 
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
There are people on this forum that have said that a mechanical speedo from a Kawa ZRX will work.  As long as it has a 25mm axle and a 2240/60 speedo ratio... but i have yet to see someone actually put that theory to practice. 

Hmm? Very interesting!! I have not heard that before. Are you able to find me some threads on this dicsusion?
 

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=63784.125
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=34836.225  - reply #236

But neither of them go ahead with a mechanical speedo

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2012, 04:27:15 PM »
There are people on this forum that have said that a mechanical speedo from a Kawa ZRX will work.  As long as it has a 25mm axle and a 2240/60 speedo ratio... but i have yet to see someone actually put that theory to practice. 

Hmm? Very interesting!! I have not heard that before. Are you able to find me some threads on this dicsusion?
 

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=63784.125
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=34836.225  - reply #236

But neither of them go ahead with a mechanical speedo


Hmm? Interesting.... ?
To bad no one has followed through yet..
Thank you for the links!
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2012, 03:48:52 AM »
huh? now photos will upload. WTF!? LOL..

well.. ok.. I'll try posting some photos again..

Use photobucket, ya goober!! 
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2012, 08:47:24 AM »
huh? now photos will upload. WTF!? LOL..

well.. ok.. I'll try posting some photos again..

Use photobucket, ya goober!! 

Been there done that knob gobbler.... Hahahaha. Just dumb how this site you have to reduce the size/res for it to post. Where on other sites i have been able to up load full size/high res right from the camera. No problem. And some times this site would just crash on me while trying to post photos.
But oh well.. It seems to work for me ok now..
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2012, 12:20:10 PM »
My plan is a disc/fork swap too.  I also have a 78' 550.  I was lucky to find the entire front end off a 2005 cbr600rr on Kijiji.  By my measurements thus far it should be a perfect fit at the steering stem area even the 550 ignition key switch should fit where the cbr ignition key switch is on the top triple AND still have the steering lock work.  Since you've already fitted yours, I was wondering a few things...

Did the steering stop on the bottom of the cbr triple work with the stop on the 550 frame?
Will you be runnig a mechanical speedo drive?  i was thinking of getting some cbr1100 discs (more offset) in hopes of fitting a mechanical speedo drive in there...
Do you think you could make me disc/hub/axle adapter plates as well?  I live in the K/W area

As you can see; the steering stops on the bottom triple do meet up with the stops on the 550 frame. And the forks stop approx 1 1/2" from the tank.
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2012, 04:04:38 PM »
sorry.. guess I should add the photo to that eh? LOL
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2012, 04:11:39 PM »
Today I trimmed and cleaned up the new seat.
It looks pretty go so far. I didn't like how the seat changed the curve of the seat pan in drying. So today I re-shaped the seat pan part to flow with the frame rails. Looks better.

Maybe tomorrow after I tackle a few things on the "Honey DOO list", I'll start sanding and give the seat a layer of bondo and what not.. we'll see..

also tomorrow, I am meeting up with a fellow, buying some fork parts from him.. 2006-cbr600rr brakes, discs, lines, axle, upper triple clamp. So that should get the front end on a near-home-stretch..
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2012, 05:49:48 PM »
Looking good. I like how you have sitting inside the frame.

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« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2012, 06:19:49 AM »
Looking good. I like how you have sitting inside the frame.

Thank you sir. Wanted to try something different.
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« Reply #118 on: February 26, 2012, 06:59:59 AM »
That's going to show off the frame nicely when done.   A subtle mod but visually it's gonna make a big difference.   Are you going to try and fit a wider spoked wheel to the front now?
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« Reply #119 on: February 26, 2012, 07:26:24 AM »
That's going to show off the frame nicely when done.   A subtle mod but visually it's gonna make a big difference.   Are you going to try and fit a wider spoked wheel to the front now?


Thank you.

I actually flip flop a lot on that decision.. I'd like to keep the 19" rim. But not sure how wide a front 19" tire comes in. Need to look into that. I'm not sold on going with a small size wheel.. The look dosen't appeal to me as much.
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« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2012, 07:42:56 PM »
Eye Ball'n the brake set up.. going to be very snug!!
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« Reply #121 on: February 28, 2012, 08:14:02 AM »
Looking super super Nice

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« Reply #122 on: February 28, 2012, 08:34:38 AM »
Looking super super Nice


Thank you sir.
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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #123 on: February 29, 2012, 02:53:18 PM »
As you can see; the steering stops on the bottom triple do meet up with the stops on the 550 frame. And the forks stop approx 1 1/2" from the tank.
Thanks for checking.  I look forward to the updates.
Are you going to run a fender or rock guards to protect those fork tubes?

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Re: Olivia's Face lift. 78 CB550 build.
« Reply #124 on: February 29, 2012, 03:32:42 PM »
As you can see; the steering stops on the bottom triple do meet up with the stops on the 550 frame. And the forks stop approx 1 1/2" from the tank.
Thanks for checking.  I look forward to the updates.
Are you going to run a fender or rock guards to protect those fork tubes?


No problem.
Negative... Going naked/raw... Lol its not going to be daily driver.. And i feel like taking a chance. Naked it is.. Lol
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