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AGM battery
« on: April 02, 2011, 07:43:07 AM »
I'm getting ready to get a new AGM battery. I saw some at Wallmart that fit my bike. Does anyone know if Yuasa makes these for wallmart?.I know Yuasa makes batteries and puts different brand names on them for different companies. Have not been able to verify the Wallmart manufacture. If anyone knows please let me know

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 08:02:24 AM »
I'm getting ready to get a new AGM battery. I saw some at Wallmart that fit my bike. Does anyone know if Yuasa makes these for wallmart?.I know Yuasa makes batteries and puts different brand names on them for different companies. Have not been able to verify the Wallmart manufacture. If anyone knows please let me know

                                     Thanks in advance
                                            Ken
Ken,
Those are not Yuasa product. They're Chinese-made.  If you want the best available price on Yuasa AGM, buy the Interstate brand at Sam's Club.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 08:53:04 AM »
Thanks for the heads up Chickenman will do
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 09:12:27 AM »
I got my AGM at sears.  you still have to fill it and charge it though.  It has been fine so far.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 11:10:02 AM »
Just ordered 2 Yuasa AGM batteries from Venco Wings. One for my CB750K and one for my Wing. Believe it or not, my Westco battery in the Wing will be 8 years old this July. I figure it best to replace it rather than get stranded somewhere.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 12:25:20 PM »
I got my Scorpion AGM battery here for $61 shipped.  It's a perfect drop in!
http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYTX14AHL-BS.html
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 12:33:37 PM »
+1 on the Scorpion battery, and I've had nothing but great service from batterystuff.com.  Had a defective battery last year on my Shadow, they asked me to simply test it and send them the numbers and shipped out a new one the next day free of charge.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 01:44:53 PM »
An AGM battery does NOT need to be filled. It is completely sealed from the factory. If you filled the battery, it is either not an agm or you messed up the battery. An agm is completely maintenance free. It is completely sealed and can be mounted in ANY position. Even a regular sealed, maintenance free battery cannot be mounted in any position.
AGM stands for Absorbed Glass Mat and it is an advanced version of an SLA Sealed Lead Acid.
If you still think your battery is agm, crack the case and see. If it leaks, it is NOT agm. An AGM will not leak acid.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2011, 02:56:29 PM »
+1 for the Scorpion from Batterystuff.com
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 02:59:08 PM »
FWIW

I have 3 years and 9000 miles  on a 59 dollar Chinese AGM battery, no problems.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 03:26:19 PM »
+4 for the Scorpion.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2011, 05:03:30 PM »
I got my AGM at sears.  you still have to fill it and charge it though.  It has been fine so far.

You do NOT have an AGM battery if you had to fill it. Skunks reply says it all.

Then you better tell Sears.  The link below is not the exact battery but you will get an idea.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02844016000P 
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 05:50:46 PM »
It also says "sealed lead acid" on the box, or SLA.  SLA and AGM are not the same thing.  I think whoever makes the batteries for sears may be trying to confuse people even further.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »
The one I looked at at Wallmart also need to be filled (I didn't buy it post were reversed) it had 6 little bottles of electrolyte in the box and the seal to close it up. I thought that was odd. So now I don't what kind of battery it is. It clearly says AGM on the box & battery. You have to seal it somewhere factory or home.I hope someone wiser than myself will chime in on this.

chickman did you have to fill yours from Sams Club

How about all of you with the scorpion did any one have to fill theres
How can wallmart sell a SLA as a AGM? If it is in fact a SLA.
It is beginning to smell like a SLA
Tipper sound like Sears and wallmart are doing the same thing.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 06:24:19 PM »
If you have to fill it, it is NOT AGM.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2011, 06:46:13 PM »
The one I looked at at Wallmart also need to be filled (I didn't buy it post were reversed) it had 6 little bottles of electrolyte in the box and the seal to close it up. I thought that was odd. So now I don't what kind of battery it is. It clearly says AGM on the box & battery. You have to seal it somewhere factory or home.I hope someone wiser than myself will chime in on this.

chickman did you have to fill yours from Sams Club

How about all of you with the scorpion did any one have to fill theres
How can wallmart sell a SLA as a AGM? If it is in fact a SLA.
It is beginning to smell like a SLA
Tipper sound like Sears and wallmart are doing the same thing.

Yuppers, it seems we were taken in by the same scheme.  It clearly said AGM in big letters on the box.  I would swear it says it on the battery but I am not taking it out to go look, lol.

My AGM in my Yammy is sealed and it came filled and partially charged.  Enough to start that beast with ease.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 06:58:02 PM »
I have not been taken yet When I saw the post (+ - ) were backwards I didn't get it. Glad they were backwards now.

Tipper I think you should exchange it. Take some documentation with you.

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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2011, 09:21:55 AM »
This is on a site about Yuasa. They are calling it AGM, but you fill it with acid and charge. I am confused...

Yuasa AGM Battery (Maintenance-Free) * YUAM620BH-PW

Special absorbed-glass mat battery eliminates water loss, permitting the battery to be permanently sealed once it is filled with acid
Acid Pak included (except YIX30L and YTX20HL-PW, which come from the factory wet sealed and charged)
Truly the worlds finest install it and forget it motorcycle battery
* Optional battery factory activated part #YTX20HL-PW

And this is what I found on the Yuasa website:

Maintenance FreeAbsorbed Glass Mat (AGM) Technology is an advanced battery design used in Yuasa's Maintenance Free Batteries that eliminates water loss. Once it's filled with acid the battery is permanently sealed - so you'll never need to fill it with water or check the acid level.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2011, 12:57:28 PM »
+1 on AGM tech.

My scorpion is sealed. I never filled it, and couldnt if I wanted to.

They GET FILLED.. during their construction at the factory. Never again after that.

If you guys are getting bait and switched somewhere.. you can always just order a scorpion :) They are great.

Some detials:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery#Manufacture

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 01:00:47 PM »
YOu can also kind of tell by looking..
AGM batteries dont have translucent plastic parts where you would look at fluid levels.
They also dont have overflow outlets.
OBV, they dont have refill ports.

like here... nice opague black plastic. Who would know if it even needed to be filled?
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2011, 01:03:59 PM »
UNLIKE this one.
It SAYS if is sealed.. but if so, why would there be fill lines?
I smell BS:
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2011, 01:12:30 PM »
Just checking around, it appears there are now AGM batteries on the market that require  the customer to do the initial fill of electrolyte.  It is then sealed and is not intended to ever be reopened.
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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 01:20:12 PM »
Sounds like another way for manufacturers to cut their costs and still charge a premium for something the customer has to do. Gives them an out of the customer fills the battery wrong or does not seal it right. I think I will stick with the traditional filled and sealed at the factory agm batteries.

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Re: AGM battery
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 01:25:08 PM »
How can you tell if it was sealed at the factory or sealed at the dealer?
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2011, 02:12:02 PM »
Well I still have not bought one yet. Still doing research.Went to advance Auto parts today they have one there Now it looks like what I expected one to look like Agm Like cameron said No fill lines and it is not translucent.

Johnie start looking at them and you will see what we are talking about from the factory you can not see how they were filled if done at home or the store you will see the seal provided with the battery.

Tipper I'm beginning to think you may have a AGM after all.

Skunk May be onto something this looks like a way for them to save them money not us.
I have decided to go with one sealed at the factory either yuasa or Scorpion. I will get it local if i am on the road and have battery problems I want to be able to go to a nation wide chain store and swap it out hard to do if you buy it on the net.
Bummer is I have 3 chargers none of the AGM 3,4, or 5 steps :(
chickenman says the interstate brand at Sams club is made by Yuasa so that may be the one. Have not checked out NAPA yet.