Author Topic: How much is a "sandcast" engine worth? !!!UPDATE!!! dog-pile begins on pg 12. (Read 54051 times)

excerpt · « **Reply #350 on:** November 03, 2011, 12:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Bob3050 on November 03, 2011, 12:06:47 PM

Am I wrong or does that Kawi drag bike have a blower? I'm not able to really tell from the picture but it sure looks possible.
Bob

If memory serves me correct, it does.
A few weeks ago when he mentioned this "CB750 goldmine", he talked at length about the kawi. He did a lot too it, and I remember it having something extra like a blower/supercharger/turbo/something or another.

Tews19 · « **Reply #351 on:** November 03, 2011, 12:19:26 PM »

excerpt · « **Reply #352 on:** November 03, 2011, 12:25:53 PM »

Quote from: Tews19 on November 03, 2011, 12:19:26 PM

sent

The beer has been received! I'll make sure to drink a good one with my flaky friend and toast you Saturday night!

here's a shocker:
Boss just informed me that I have a choice to move to West Virginia? Looks like that's going to happen.

Anybody know anything about West Virgina.

(I already see a 76' CB750 on craigslist there, and I'm calling dibs from TEXAS!)

Rigid · « **Reply #353 on:** November 03, 2011, 12:51:26 PM »

I delivered a boat there, stayed a couple days. West Virginia is, how shall I say this? uh, "country" Nascar is huge, nice folks though.

754 · « **Reply #354 on:** November 03, 2011, 01:08:59 PM »

Sholuda offered him 125 for the 101*** motor.. I paid more for a lower end in that range.. and it had had water in it.. and threw a rod.. and I think a chain..

The Honda drag frame looked pretty good, shoulda used the casino money for that.. didja check the #s on the cases in it?

oonly 6 more days till next Wednesday...

.. think this should be renamed.. On the SANDCAST trail.... or Sandcast diaries and stories..

Turn someone else on to this, I am sure someone will take it..
Did not notice the blower on the Kawi, but was wondering about the Zoomie pipes.. front wheel looks like a Mitchel from PM, bacxk maybe a Kosman or Dymag..

excerpt · « **Reply #355 on:** November 03, 2011, 01:19:17 PM »

Quote from: 754 on November 03, 2011, 01:08:59 PM

Sholuda offered him 125 for the 101*** motor.. I paid more for a lower end in that range.. and it had had water in it.. and threw a rod.. and I think a chain..

The Honda drag frame looked pretty good, shoulda used the casino money for that.. didja check the #s on the cases in it?

oonly 6 more days till next Wednesday...

.. think this should be renamed.. On the SANDCAST trail.... or Sandcast diaries and stories..

Turn someone else on to this, I am sure someone will take it..
Did not notice the blower on the Kawi, but was wondering about the Zoomie pipes.. front wheel looks like a Mitchel from PM, bacxk maybe a Kosman or Dymag..

I've seen many well kept running engines on the local craigslist for $200.
The engine on the frame was a die cast as well. Trust me fellas - I wanted to BELIEVE!

One person has expressed possible interest in the frame. If he sees the pic and wants the contact info, he can have it (as long as this thread isn't mentioned). lol

Good idea about keeping the thread going with any/all future sandcast hunts! Might be hard to top the complete failure of the OP though.

754 · « **Reply #356 on:** November 03, 2011, 01:21:19 PM »

KO engines are not leave "behind" material..

Patrick · « **Reply #357 on:** November 03, 2011, 01:32:48 PM »

Yeah, right after you "squeal like a piggy" for them.....

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #358 on:** November 03, 2011, 01:43:02 PM »

But you can get the sweet bendover price!

FuZZie · « **Reply #359 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:08:40 PM »

You had to try excerpt sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, sorry it didn't pan out for you.

jaguar · « **Reply #360 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:25:29 PM »

That frame is assume!!!
Me wants!

excerpt · « **Reply #361 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:33:23 PM »

Quote from: Patrick on November 03, 2011, 01:32:48 PM

Yeah, right after you "squeal like a piggy" for them.....

I would introduce them to my stamp collection. I don't think they would like it.

weekend_junkie · « **Reply #362 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:34:34 PM »

Quote from: DukieFrankenkit on November 03, 2011, 01:43:02 PM

But you can get the sweet bendover price!

Does anyone else hear banjo music?

Gordon · « **Reply #363 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:35:10 PM »

Okay, I've been on board since the beginning of this saga, but sometimes my memory isn't the greatest, and maybe this question has already been answered, but was there a reason initially why the seller couldn't or wouldn't provide engine numbers before you spent all that time and money driving out there to find out what was statistically inevitable?

excerpt · « **Reply #364 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:43:03 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on November 03, 2011, 02:35:10 PM

Okay, I've been on board since the beginning of this saga, but sometimes my memory isn't the greatest, and maybe this question has already been answered, but was there a reason initially why the seller couldn't or wouldn't provide engine numbers before you spent all that time and money driving out there to find out what was statistically inevitable?

He would have to go home to get the vin numbers, and if he already knew "sandcast" was worth a little more, I certainly didn't want him digging around any further. I already alluded to the fact that they were more valuable (so I wouldn't feel like I was taking advantage of him or anything), and that's all my conscience required. I wantede dibs at the agreed upon price.

Had I requested pics of the vins, (and all the engines turned out the way he originally claimed) and he sent me the pics, ...and then posted a question about them online and some other guy snatched them up, you all would call me foolish for not just taking the risk and going to check out a potential score of that magnitude.

"It was worth the stretch"

Gordon · « **Reply #365 on:** November 03, 2011, 02:53:12 PM »

Quote from: excerpt on November 03, 2011, 02:43:03 PM

Quote from: Gordon on November 03, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
Okay, I've been on board since the beginning of this saga, but sometimes my memory isn't the greatest, and maybe this question has already been answered, but was there a reason initially why the seller couldn't or wouldn't provide engine numbers before you spent all that time and money driving out there to find out what was statistically inevitable?

He would have to go home to get the vin numbers, and if he already knew "sandcast" was worth a little more, I certainly didn't want him digging around any further. I already alluded to the fact that they were more valuable (so I wouldn't feel like I was taking advantage of him or anything), and that's all my conscience required. I wantede dibs at the agreed upon price.

Had I requested pics of the vins, (and all the engines turned out the way he originally claimed) and he sent me the pics, ...and then posted a question about them online and some other guy snatched them up, you all would call me foolish for not just taking the risk and going to check out a potential score of that magnitude.

"It was worth the stretch"

It's all coming back to me now.

Thanks for the recap!

Had the same opportunity come to me at an earlier stage of life I would have done the same thing. Hell, before I was married with children, I drove a friend's van from Western Oregon to Denver to buy my K1 sight unseen.

Stev-o · « **Reply #366 on:** November 03, 2011, 04:12:10 PM »

Thanks for being a good sport. Don't worry about the 500!

excerpt · « **Reply #367 on:** November 03, 2011, 06:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on November 03, 2011, 04:12:10 PM

Thanks for being a good sport. Don't worry about the 500!

You forget the bet. You said 500 that it wouldn't go down Wednesday, and it did.

754 · « **Reply #368 on:** November 03, 2011, 06:42:27 PM »

AND there was a 69 750 motor AND the aluminum frame...

Don R · « **Reply #369 on:** November 03, 2011, 06:45:43 PM »

It was probably the 1014100 to 300 I am looking for. Waaah.

venicechoppers · « **Reply #370 on:** January 20, 2012, 05:21:15 PM »

Found this post today concerning the aluminum drag frame, and noticed a similarity with the frame pictured, and this frame I have.
From what I've learned, Russ Collins had four of them built, along with his multi-engine frames.
I've seen pictures of one, fully restored by Randy Mott.
This could make three accounted for, assuming that's it hiding under that tail piece.

ekpent · « **Reply #371 on:** January 20, 2012, 08:47:55 PM »

Here is the other frame for easier side by side comparison. Sure does look to be very similar with what may be an oil bung on the top tube etc. Might be a very rare item indeed. Think someone (ecerpt) better toddle back and get it and a K0 engine or two

venicechoppers · « **Reply #372 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:27:19 PM »

That's fuel in the top tube, oil in the front triangle. Weighs 22lbs.

venicechoppers · « **Reply #373 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:51:45 PM »

I was curious about the little nub in front of the fuel filler bung, so I just peeked in the tanks. It appears to be a solid rod that extends through the top tube, and supports an oil return pipe that exhausts near the front of the tank, behind the neck. The pick up is low on the back of the tank.

onagd · « **Reply #374 on:** January 20, 2012, 10:33:04 PM »

Well Excerpt, I said way at the beginning of this thread I would be watching with interest as to how this finished up.
Sorry to hear this didnt go well but to find 5 sandcast motors in one place at one time would be like finding your "Eldorado".
A guy he in NZ who was selling bikes through a reputable auction house had a CB750 listed as a"sandcast". It was certainly an early Honda but the engine number was outside the 7414 sandcast range. Some people just do not know their bikes, no matter how good they think they are.
Bad luck man, but hey, you never know what may be round the corner.
Brett

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