Author Topic: Foale frame CB750 (Read 36110 times)

bgfootball67 · « **Reply #50 on:** November 15, 2011, 05:39:36 PM »

Love the project, how many of those frames were produced for the CB 750 SOHC?

jaguar · « **Reply #51 on:** November 16, 2011, 10:28:19 AM »

I REALLY want a Foale frame one day

RupertB · « **Reply #52 on:** November 16, 2011, 12:47:26 PM »

According to Tony Foale himself he thinks he produced about 40 frames for the Honda - now whether that was for 750s or sohcs generally I don't know. Mine has the number TFH048 on the headstock so whether it is the 48th Honda frame or the 48th sohc frame I don't know, but I assume it is TonyFoaleHonda048. He reckoned to have made about 1000 frames in total for all makes, and mine was registered in 1978. For what it is worth the UK registration begins with the letter 'UFO' which I rather like!

coma13 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:39:42 AM »

Any progress? This is the absolute coolest frame for the CB750 I have ever seen. Is the aversion to oil in frame due to the height relative to the pump?

Syscrush · « **Reply #54 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:45:05 AM »

Quote from: coma13 on December 15, 2011, 11:39:42 AM

Any progress? This is the absolute coolest frame for the CB750 I have ever seen. Is the aversion to oil in frame due to the height relative to the pump?

More likely because of problems keeping the pump fed as the oil sloshes back and forth along that long backbone.

coma13 · « **Reply #55 on:** December 15, 2011, 02:04:31 PM »

Quote from: Syscrush on December 15, 2011, 11:45:05 AM

Quote from: coma13 on December 15, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
Any progress? This is the absolute coolest frame for the CB750 I have ever seen. Is the aversion to oil in frame due to the height relative to the pump?
More likely because of problems keeping the pump fed as the oil sloshes back and forth along that long backbone.

Good point, I hadn't even considered that. Any time braking force is applied, all the oil is going to be up by the head tube!

TommyT · « **Reply #56 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:36:42 PM »

a couple simple baffles in that tube would fix that. I'm going to take on a frame build like this one day. But who knows when that will be.

coma13 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:00:21 PM »

Quote from: TommyT on December 15, 2011, 04:36:42 PM

a couple simple baffles in that tube would fix that. I'm going to take on a frame build like this one day. But who knows when that will be.

I like your style! It is pretty damn tempting.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #58 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:23:28 AM »

A couple of guys here have built their own frames, from memory, both were based on Fritz Egli's designs, (from whom I think Tony Foale may have borrowed some design cues) so building your own frame is do-able, you just need to buy/build yourself a frame jig, and you can make just about anything. Cheers, Terry.

RupertB · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:54:12 PM »

Oh dear, 2011 nearly over and not much progress though plenty of planning - the bloke who is to polish the wheels has yet to take them on (but will do - he only lives locally but needs pinning down) and I have been in touch with a man (actually a former owner of my Jota) who does alloy fabricating and can build me an alloy tank with a separate 3.5 litre oil compartment, so the oil storage will still be out of the way. I like the idea of baffles in the oil-in-frame, but given that the bike will also have the 836 engine I don't want to risk storing oil in a tank which was full of dry cack for 17 unused years. Over the next week I will be collecting the engine cases and other shiny bits for vapour blasting - all subject to horses not taking up every spare minute of course. Hope all on here had a good Christmas, and the very best to you all for 2012.

ThomasD883 · « **Reply #60 on:** December 28, 2011, 07:37:55 PM »

Really like this start up, im even more intrested in the finale. Subscribed

RupertB · « **Reply #61 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:12:07 PM »

While you are waiting for progress, anybody want to buy a copy of my book in the USA? - it will provide funds for the rebuild (he said optimistically) and has dropped to about 300,000th in Amazon Kindle and 5 millionth in paperback sales there! Might give you a laugh through the cold winter months..
Blatant commercialism I know, but it makes the world go round while I trudge through mud with haynets for the daughter's horses, after which the only thing to look forward to is being driven home by her as she learns to drive. Treats the car like a ruddy horse, telling it to 'get moving' as she slips the clutch!!!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #62 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:00:58 PM »

I'll buy a copy if you sign it for me Tom? Cheers, Terry.

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #63 on:** December 31, 2011, 10:06:37 AM »

I'd like to lend my review of Rupert's (Tom's) Prisoners Property and Prostitutes. His book contains some great stories of being "in the trenches" as a British policeman, told with characteristic British restraint. If anyone has wondered what it'd be like to live in a policeman's (Bobby's?) shoes, day-by-day, dealing with the internal and external worlds of the force, this book must be highly recommended. Some of the tales are funny, some slightly sad, but Rupert has a knack of visual portrayal that lets us "see" his world in our mind's eye. The pages are peppered with daily British slang, but even American ears will soon decipher the meaning; it's kind of like spending time in Merry Olde England!

Prisoners Property and Prostitutes is written in a smooth, highly readable style that makes moving from one chapter to the next a happy anticipation.

Highly recommended read! RR

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #64 on:** December 31, 2011, 04:11:02 PM »

Thanks for that review Ricky, I'm looking forward to getting my meat hooks on a copy!

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #65 on:** January 01, 2012, 10:21:09 AM »

You'll enjoy the book, Terry. And I'm sure that every little pence helps finance the Foale! RR

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #66 on:** January 01, 2012, 04:00:19 PM »

I need to get this book, Tom only lives aroud the corner.

When the bike is finished Tom, you'll have to enter it in the Thundersprint at Northwich.
The organiser Frank Melling, another aurthur lives on Manley lane.

Sam.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #67 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:38:46 AM »

£7.36 parted with, should keep me out of trouble for a few nights.

Sam.

RupertB · « **Reply #68 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:53:56 AM »

Thanks guys - just been to the garage and ripped the fork lower apart. On Friday I go to Stafford to collect all the engine cases and stuff to take to Stephen Smethurst (master blaster and polisher) in Salford for a spot of serious cleaning and polishing. He reckons a turnaround of two weeks maximum so should have some pics before the end of January.
I set myself a deadline about a year ago of end of May this year as I want to take the bike to the Shetland Classic Motor Show in the first weekend of June. I have now booked the show places, and the ferry sails on 30th May. So last night I drew up a list of what needs doing, who is doing it, and in what order. I am actually far less organised than that sounds, but being realstic I am going to have to pull my finger out and get things moving. So if the cases and stuff are done by end of this month, it means enging rebuild by end Feb, with rolling chassis dry build at the same time, and possibly a lot of it together by end of March. I hope.... wife, kids, horses and dogs permitting.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #69 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:36:56 AM »

I was at Mr Smethursts a few weeks ago, he did a fantastic ultrasonic job on a motor for me, you'll be well pleased.

Sam.

RupertB · « **Reply #70 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:19:31 AM »

Only (well not 'only', but 'a') problem now is fork stanchions etc - mine need rechroming (£150 + vat) or replacing (£200 + vat) but with new ones I know they haven't been bent and straightened in their life. There are some on ebay at about 80 quid, but they are said to be 607mm long, whereas mine measure about 585mm (or thereabouts - I have had a large meal and some wine since I measured them, but it is around the high 50 cms). So can I buy 607mm ones and save a packet, or am I looking at a false economy? I don't really want an inch or so of stanchion poking out of the top of the top yoke if I can avoid it! Or is 607mm correct?

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #71 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:11:29 PM »

Just buy the cheap ones Tom, they'll be the same length as yours when assembled and fitted to your bike unless you add more preload. Who's selling new stanchions for 80 squids? Cheers, Terry.

RupertB · « **Reply #72 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:28:45 PM »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CB750-S-O-H-C-FRONT-FORK-STANCHIONS-35mm-PRICE-PAIR-NEW-/220859912205?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item336c46d00d

What do you think?

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #73 on:** January 03, 2012, 04:37:57 PM »

They look fine mate, buy 'em! Cheers, Terry.

RupertB · « **Reply #74 on:** January 04, 2012, 01:30:53 PM »

What a difference a day makes - phoned David Silver and they have stanchions for mine which are 580mm, the ebay ones are 607mm which is a lot to have an an extra when you want a cafe racer look not a chop! Anyway doing some pricing up of Maxton internals (440 quid plus 20% vat) and add in one helicoil and polishing for the lowers, plus rechroming (150 plus vat) or renewal of stanchions (200 plus vat) when the man at Silvers says 'We have got one pair of NOS forks, top nut to axle clamp, brand new unused and ready to fit'. So I bought them - price? £380 including vat and delivery. Ok it hasn't got Maxton fancy new cartridges, but it will look in keeping with the era of the frame, nothing to take from workshop to workshop and no dodgy history to uncover. Sorted!

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