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« Reply #375 on: August 05, 2012, 05:56:51 am »
I'm going to make a best of

Remember the frame is 1/16 thickness

??? My Seeley frame is made from Reynolds 531, and is about 1/16" thick. The stock Honda frame was made out of much thicker, mild steel tubing, mig-welded in a mass production environment. It was designed more with regards to cost and ease of manufacture than rigidity, and can, indeed, be improved upon...

I have measured the CB750 frame tubing and it is .063 thousandths.
They did not have MIG welding at that time. It did not exist yet.
The CB750 frame was welded with SMAW(stick welding).
You can see some of the welding spatter on some of the frames.
Consider those plug welds in those oval punched holes. just as if a bolt was in the hole.

I am a certified welder and a certified welding inspector.

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« Reply #376 on: August 05, 2012, 06:08:16 am »
Give it a good wash out, it'll be fine, I've never had any issues welding on anything that has had oil in it, other than getting it clean enough for the weld to take properly, it's nowhere near as volatile as petrol.

Oil is a petroleum product.
I am a certified welder and a certified welding inspector.
I urge you to not weld on that tank.
Just send it back and get your money back.
IF they don't want to give your money back then tell them
 you will report them to the authorities . The D.O.T.

There are strict rules about building tanks.

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Re: Honducati...paint job done. What do you think?
« Reply #377 on: August 05, 2012, 09:18:45 am »
Wow, what a freaking tool!  I'm a weld engineer and hearing this makes me cringe thinking of him inspecting ANY welds, even his own!

And in case you ready this Lucky, GMAW was invented in the 40's, and widely accepted in industry in the 50's.  SMAW will produce spatter just like GMAW, the only reason you see it is because it wasn't cleaned properly...  its embarrassing I have to tell this to a "CWI"...



On a different note, I had noidea the Seely's were Reynolds 531, that's cool!
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« Reply #378 on: August 07, 2012, 05:56:05 am »
The honducati is getting a shake down tonight......

I'll try and post video(I use tapatalk and it doesn't support it)

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Re: Honducati...paint job done. What do you think?
« Reply #380 on: August 07, 2012, 06:46:34 am »
man thats friggin sweet, you have excelled right there myfriend!!!... now a vid on bike...=)

yes and lucky you are a tool


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« Reply #381 on: August 07, 2012, 11:19:51 am »
Wow, what a freaking tool!  I'm a weld engineer and hearing this makes me cringe thinking of him inspecting ANY welds, even his own!

And in case you ready this Lucky, GMAW was invented in the 40's, and widely accepted in industry in the 50's.  SMAW will produce spatter just like GMAW, the only reason you see it is because it wasn't cleaned properly...  its embarrassing I have to tell this to a "CWI"...


On a different note, I had noidea the Seely's were Reynolds 531, that's cool!


I understand what you are saying about GMAW spatter etc., but I am 63 years old and remember when the first GMAW welding was used. I bought one of the first GMAW machines. It was way down the road after the CB750's were forgotten.
I cannot find any evidence of GMAW welders being used in the time period in JAPAN
that we are talking about.  Remember WWII had just ended when Honda first started his first motorized bicycle factory.
It was a very small operation.

I am not saying it is impossible that Honda somehow got his hands on one of the very first GMAW machines for the CB750 but I searched for hours and cannot find any articles or photos to support that.

Also besides just spatters which I am well aware of I do not see any evidence of starts and stops in the welding bead similar to the GMAW process.
Of course they did not even have the internet available until the late 1960's yet so the photos could just be missing or have never been scanned and are in a cabinet somewhere.

Let me know if you find something.

Remember there is the invention of a process and then there is manufacturing of a machine that industry could use with certainty of reliability.

BTW....You do not have to be ashamed of any CWI that does not know what you expect them to know. CWI's do not know everything.

Also welding inspections cannot be performed after all welding has been completed.


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« Reply #382 on: August 07, 2012, 11:21:46 am »
man thats friggin sweet, you have excelled right there myfriend!!!... now a vid on bike...=)

yes and lucky you are a tool


peace

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I do not know what that means.
Maybe it means something in your circle of friends.

Name calling ?

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« Reply #383 on: August 07, 2012, 11:33:00 am »
Ha!.... Found my problem...... The pilot jets were drilled!!! Freakin like a 3/32 hole in the bastards....

I'm going to be doing a thread on the airbox....... I'm going to be making another fully enclosed unit with a single flat filter......with the same choke setup.

That really sucks that someone did not remove the numbers on the jet.
It is just something you do not expect. Unusual problem.




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« Reply #384 on: August 07, 2012, 11:36:58 am »
I think it's kind of ironic that Lucky sent that anti-computer rant using a computer, and not by "snail mail", using a page from his spiral friggin' notebook! Oh, and Lucky, the CB750 is 43 years old, not 33, was that a "computer glitch", or are you just really bad at math? Maybe you need a calculator?  ::)

You are correct 43 years from the first CB750 1969 model.
Since yours is a 1977 model and is 35 years old, I may have been off by 1.5 years because Hondas are not sold starting in any particular month,  also they can take months before each one is sold.

I am using a computer to write and send this letter, but it is not plugged into a motorcycle intake system.
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« Reply #385 on: August 07, 2012, 11:41:53 am »
Lucky what you do is trial and error what I do scientific......

Yes that is true.
I use trial and error.

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« Reply #386 on: August 07, 2012, 11:44:23 am »
Haha, I agree with the comments about Lucky!  3500 posts and I've never seen one that's reallypositive!  And he is the master of quoting OLD posts in a thread!  Screw him!

Anyways, everthings looking good!  If you could, post a decent video or audio clip so we can hear that exhaust on the road!

I have written many positive posts.
I have given my opinions of problems and remedies.
I have helped many forum members with problems.
I have given many compliments.
I have made comments people did not like.


Just like the rest of the forum members.

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« Reply #387 on: August 07, 2012, 11:58:51 am »
You may want to go back and read post #353.

QUOTE: "I really like the bike and the paint but the exhaust makes no sense.
Racing motorcycles have exhausts that are business like and straight forward, not fancy and  styled out.?

I do make positive comments.


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« Reply #388 on: August 07, 2012, 03:16:02 pm »
You may want to go back and read post #353.

QUOTE: "I really like the bike and the paint but the exhaust makes no sense.
Racing motorcycles have exhausts that are business like and straight forward, not fancy and  styled out.?

I do make positive comments.


"I never say"Get off my Lawn!" I just give my opinion. or my advice, or my compliments.

In the post regarding the carbs/jets you were not giving an opinion or advice you were being insulting and acting superior. 
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« Reply #389 on: August 07, 2012, 06:50:56 pm »
hey lets just everyone STOP distracting from this build thread.  if we're going to reply to multiple posts, why don't we quote them in one reply instead.  otherwise, lets just offer good advice/comments to the OP.

i'll start by apologizing for any distractions or negativity i brought to here, it's easy to be big and tough behind a keyboard.  please, carry on with updates and you have a very sweet build going.
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« Reply #390 on: August 07, 2012, 09:08:09 pm »
Good deal, bikes done..... Just have to bleed brakes/forks tommorow

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« Reply #391 on: August 07, 2012, 10:32:13 pm »
Incidentally, Mtmooradian, you probably know this, but you can delete dumb or offensive posts from threads you started.

Just sayin'. ;)

Not a bad suggestion.

I've been a member of this forum for several years and had many an opportunity to disagree with other members, but I would never allow myself to behave in such a childish and ignorant manner as you. There are better ways to express you're views and infinite wisdom than insulting people for sharing theirs.  Posting intelligent  arguments will gain respect amongst you're fellow board members.

This behaviour is what I'd expect to read at dotheton.com.

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« Reply #392 on: August 07, 2012, 10:54:16 pm »
Well put FJ. First let me apologize for going off topic. I'll admittedly say I don't know jack when it comes to working on these bikes, or any for that matter. I bought one because they're user friendly. I came here for the same reason. I hate DTT because it is inundated with D-bags. Maybe some people could change their wording so as not to sound so condescending. No matter how good some people think they are, human beings are students all their lives. That will never change. OP, ignore the bull #$%*e and keep on keeping on. People like you are idols to idiots like me.

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« Reply #393 on: August 08, 2012, 12:33:33 am »
Well put FJ. First let me apologize for going off topic. I'll admittedly say I don't know jack when it comes to working on these bikes, or any for that matter. I bought one because they're user friendly. I came here for the same reason. I hate DTT because it is inundated with D-bags. Maybe some people could change their wording so as not to sound so condescending. No matter how good some people think they are, human beings are students all their lives. That will never change. OP, ignore the bull #$%*e and keep on keeping on. People like you are idols to idiots like me.

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« Reply #394 on: August 08, 2012, 05:44:16 am »
I'm looking for the "LIKE" button, but can't find it.  ???
Here you go:


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« Reply #396 on: August 09, 2012, 02:01:49 am »
Looking good mate, have you thought about a fairing? It looks like it needs something more up front? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #397 on: August 09, 2012, 07:30:29 am »
Honda wing + Ducati script = excellent. :)
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« Reply #398 on: August 09, 2012, 07:54:34 am »
It's actually a Ducati wing

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« Reply #399 on: August 09, 2012, 08:42:08 am »
either way, it's bloody brilliant!  well done, the small things are what REALLY makes a build!  is that a pearl white?  looks GOOD
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