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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #450 on: January 16, 2015, 09:36:13 PM »
Those vintage CZ's were Very durable.

And single cylinders could be started forwards or backwards  ;D

Here are CZs hanging at Barber museum.


Backwards  :o ! you mean opposite of normal rotation ? Be fun to try to drive that
Yes run backwards, happened to on old Bultaco, started the bike popped the clutch and it ran backwards, it almost threw me over the handle bars.
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« Reply #451 on: January 17, 2015, 03:01:33 AM »
Went to see a mate that owns a BMW dealership. He told me about a woman that bought a new 3 series automatic and asked for it to be delivered to her home. Three weeks later she came in to the dealership complaining that the car would not drive at night time. She explained that in the day time if she put it into D, it would drive OK but, at night when she put it into N, it would not move ;D

Wow!
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« Reply #452 on: January 17, 2015, 03:11:10 AM »
then she put into "P"for pass and the whole thing blew up?"R" for race was worse.

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« Reply #453 on: January 17, 2015, 03:47:05 AM »
I always thought "R" was for revenge

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« Reply #454 on: January 17, 2015, 03:48:55 AM »
revenge is when the girl soaks the carpet then spreads like alfalfa seeds or some other fast growing #$%* over it!

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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #455 on: January 17, 2015, 04:21:19 AM »
Went to see a mate that owns a BMW dealership. He told me about a woman that bought a new 3 series automatic and asked for it to be delivered to her home. Three weeks later she came in to the dealership complaining that the car would not drive at night time. She explained that in the day time if she put it into D, it would drive OK but, at night when she put it into N, it would not move ;D

Wow!

That actually came from a hoax call done by a radio station....

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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #456 on: January 30, 2015, 03:09:03 AM »
Got a freshly windowed block in the shop. 15 Liter Cummins QSX, supposedly still ran  :o


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« Reply #457 on: January 31, 2015, 07:35:49 PM »
Great pix!
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #458 on: February 02, 2015, 08:31:05 AM »
Got a freshly windowed block in the shop. 15 Liter Cummins QSX, supposedly still ran  :o




Awhile back at a shop I worked at an engine got spun over forgetting the rod caps were off, created a 2 in. hole.
It was a 5 cylinder Audi, put the piece back in place, JB welded and sent on its way. Customer never knew.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #459 on: February 02, 2015, 04:02:08 PM »
That often seems to happen when the cases get crashed on a CB750 from a broken chain, too! It's not so good, though, if the engine has to come apart for rebuild, as it never seems to go back together just right...
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #460 on: February 02, 2015, 04:42:42 PM »
When I was a young auto mechanic our shop used to have a discount muffler shop down the road do all our exhaust work and up to that time they did a reasonable job until one day I had to pick up a car from that muffler shop that had a new exhaust put on it and on the way back to the shop I noticed it had a nasty exhaust leak. Once back at our shop I opened the hood for a better look and saw the flange on the exhaust manifold where the exhaust pipe itself connected to was broken and the muffler shop simply plastered it with a couple of hand fulls of muffler cement. No way was my boss going to let it leave our shop like that so we get another exhaust manifold from a local salvage yard and send it back to the muffler shop again and tell them to do it right this time. I go to pick it up again and on the drive back I still hear a nasty exhaust leak so back at our shop the hood goes up again only to see the replacement exhaust manifold flange broken with another couple of handfuls of muffler cement to patch it up, the problem was the new pipe wasn't bent quite right so the muffler shop tried forcing it to fit to the exh manifold. My boss goes absolutely ballistic and had me take the car back to the muffler shop again which REALLY sucked because on one end I had to deal with a boss whose short fuse had already been burned up and on the other end had a muffler shop owner that wasn't too happy to see me pull up after he had just gotten a verbal raping on the phone with my boss. Being caught in the middle is no fun. We ended up getting yet another exhaust manifold and took the car to another exhaust shop who bent another pipe correctly.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #461 on: February 03, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »
When I was a young auto mechanic our shop used to have a discount muffler shop down the road ....................................................Being caught in the middle is no fun. We ended up getting yet another exhaust manifold and took the car to another exhaust shop who bent another pipe correctly.
Dealing with all that you must have been totally exhausted after that..  ::)
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #462 on: February 04, 2015, 01:45:19 AM »
When I was a young auto mechanic our shop used to have a discount muffler shop down the road ....................................................Being caught in the middle is no fun. We ended up getting yet another exhaust manifold and took the car to another exhaust shop who bent another pipe correctly.
Dealing with all that you must have been totally exhausted after that..  ::)

I was literally, the boss wanted the car ready for the customer the next morning and was so pissed that he said nobody goes home till this car is done even though he insisted the exhaust shop fix their mistake rather than us. He let us slide after the exhaust shop screwed up the second time but we all had to deal with a boss that was still pissed the next morning.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #463 on: February 06, 2015, 01:18:14 PM »
...but we all had to deal with a boss that was still pissed the next morning.

Yeah, I've BEEN that boss before...
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #464 on: February 07, 2015, 08:28:08 AM »
I used to remind my boss that boss spelled backwards is double s-o-b.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #465 on: February 07, 2015, 08:22:01 PM »
Horror story from my youth. I was a novice mechanic, mostly doing simple R&R stuff and basic fluid services, brake jobs, sweeping, etc.  I was working in a smallish shop (6 bays) that specialized in British cars but took in other Euro vehicles from time to time as well.  The owner was a cranky old Brit who knew everything about those cars.

We were shorthanded when one of the more experienced guys went on a local unplanned "vacation" (aka county jail), so I sort of inherited his toolbox and started getting more interesting work.

So it's the early 1980s. One day a local rich lady rolls in with her perfect yellow Xj6 that had very recently come off the short Jag warranty.  Boss greets her next to where I am working on a Jensen Healey starter.  "Engine is making a weird knock/clunck sound" she says.  The boss pops the hood, revs it a couple times, drops the hood, looks around and says, "hmm This could take a while..."  He asks me to give her a ride back to her place and diagnose it and he tells her we'll bring it to her when it is fixed.  She seems happy enough about that.  So excuse myself to go clean up a bit and get in the passenger seat. "Don't you want to drive?" she asked.  I told her no because I wanted to focus on what I could hear and feel and let her worry about traffic.  We set out and she immediately puts the radio on.  I asked her to turn it off. (No this isn't gonna turn into a penthouse letter to the editor...)  Anyway, it's definitely "Something" but the car seems to be running ok.  I drop her at her place and drive away a couple blocks and then pull over, and pop the hood. I rev the engine.  It's a loose alternator bracket... The belt is staying on but the alternator clunks back and forth as you get in and out of the throttle.  I didn't bring tools so I just drove back to the shop.

I tell the boss about my diagnosis and he says, "You aren't qualified to diagnose Jaguars. Move the Jensen, we have time on that. Bring in her XJ, pull the valve cover off. I think the problem is in the valve train."  I felt like an idiot - how could I have missed it?

So I snug up the alternator after checking the belt was still serviceable. I put the batt on a charger figuring the alternator hadn't been making current all that well.

And I pulled the valve cover, as instructed, and told the boss.

He makes me wait, says "go back to the car - wait there... check her tire pressures and fluids etc. because he has to make a call.  He calls someone in his office, while looking at me and the Jag through the window.  I don't know what the heck is going on... but it's ... weird.

He gets off the phone and walks over to my bay, smiling.  He goes to my (borrowed) toolbox and rifles through a couple drawers till he finds the one with the hammers and mallets.  I think it was a 2.5lb ballpein that he picked up.  He looks right at me and says something like, "you're a smart lad, you know the story Robin Hood I'm sure."  And then he beats the #$%* out of the front end of her valve train with 4 or 5 blows from the hammer. "She's rich, we're not.  So fix that horrible engine problem she clearly has and she'll be a happy customer... And keep your mouth shut."

I was in shock.  Didn't know what to do or say. I think I must have just stared at him.  He walked off and one of the other mechanics just said, "he does this once in a while... when he has some tax bill or whatever.  Don't worry about, don't say anything. Trust me on this - or he will throw you out and give you a bad reference if anyone calls.  Just, fix it.. It'll be fine. If he makes out on the deal, he'll kick you back a hundred or so. Maybe."

So it was ugly on ugly.  I needed the job, I was finally get to do real wrenching and not just boring oil changes, and here I was helping him steal. 

 I felt sick about it and had started looking for another gig the day it happened.  But I did the work, and it came out well, and he told her she was "lucky" and "smart" she came in when she did - what if the engine had seized up when she was on the freeway or something! Or at night!  She could have been in a dangerous situation.  He billed her a lot - like $1500 maybe which in 1982 was A LOT of money - and she was happy and grateful.  She even hugged me, and to this day I feel bad that I didn't say anything.

He offered me $50.   I said, "no thanks, I made an agreement for a wage and that's fair and enough" or something like that.
A week later I found another gig.  I quit... got my stuff and left on good terms (told him I was going back to college).
I called the police to tell them what he was doing, they said to call the better business bureau and some agency that reviews and regulates garages.  No one wanted to believe me or do anything about it... I had no photos, no written evidence, nothing to prove what I saw. The head he damaged was long gone. I haven't really trusted a shop since.

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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #466 on: February 07, 2015, 09:56:12 PM »
alacrity,
Now I know why so may of us love doing our own work  :o  :( 
I used to be in a Big Hurry when I was 'on the clock'(and still do when I work on a job)but love when I can slowly enjoy doing what needs to be done and stepping back to appreciate good work.  ;)
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« Reply #467 on: February 08, 2015, 01:41:01 AM »
Alacricity: what a story!
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« Reply #468 on: February 08, 2015, 05:41:02 AM »
When I was a young mechanic there was a Snap-On tool dealer that would stop by our shop once a week and of course our shop was just one of many shops in the area that he catered to, one day he told us how another shop he went to had a car that had an engine that the shop had diagnosed needed a new engine and the owner of the car had already given them the money for a new one. I don't recall the exact details but as the shop was getting ready to pull the old engine they discovered what the problem really was which turned out to be minor and easily repairable. Keep in mind they had already convinced the owner it needed a new engine and the owner had already given them the money for it so rather than letting the owner know they had found what the problem actually was they instead repaired it, cleaned up the old engine a bit, put some fresh paint on the valve covers and other places on the engine here and there so it looked nice when you opened the hood and returned it with the customer thinking their car had a fresh engine.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #469 on: February 08, 2015, 09:03:06 AM »
Horror story from my youth. ..................................................  No one wanted to believe me or do anything about it... I had no photos, no written evidence, nothing to prove what I saw. The head he damaged was long gone. I haven't really trusted a shop since.

Wow what a story, Ive been a mechanic all my life, classic example why we get a bad rap.
thanks, Mark
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #470 on: February 08, 2015, 09:06:34 AM »
........................................... put some fresh paint on the valve covers and other places on the engine here and there so it looked nice when you opened the hood and returned it with the customer thinking their car had a fresh engine.

Damn those shops .  >:(
thanks, Mark
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #471 on: February 08, 2015, 09:31:41 AM »
Horror story from my youth. ..................................................  No one wanted to believe me or do anything about it... I had no photos, no written evidence, nothing to prove what I saw. The head he damaged was long gone. I haven't really trusted a shop since.

Wow what a story, Ive been a mechanic all my life, classic example why we get a bad rap.


And also why women customers (sometimes) assume we/accuse us of/ taking advantage of them because of their gender/having no automotive knowledge. And when that happens, it's very hard to erase. What that guy did was wrong on multiple levels. That kind of stuff has a way of coming back to those who practice it tho. Someday, he'll get what he truly deserves.

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« Reply #472 on: February 08, 2015, 10:28:34 AM »
I was a kid...  I was struggling... I was afraid of the boss's wrath... Oddly I felt a little bit beholden to him, since he was mentoring me one the mechanical side (I didn't mention that a few days earlier he helped me through the hideous process of doing a clutch on an xke without pulling the engine and gearbox)... I even recall that I rolled by the lady's house one day, long after I had quit that job. I was gonna talk to her or leave a note... And then it occured to me that in her case, maybe ignorance was bliss. She didn't NEED the money, she felt she had been cared for, and in fact, her car was perfect on its return to her. So I rode away after talking myself into the idea that doing nothing in that particular case was actually "something."   I had lots of "reasons" for doing nothing but in retrospect, it's one of those things for which I really wish I could get a do-over.

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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #473 on: February 08, 2015, 05:43:54 PM »
When a person owns the company,that gives them lot's of choices to do right or wrong...
I enjoy when I get work(I repair cycles when I still get the work)so I deal directly with the owner and no 'middle men'.
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Re: Shop stories!
« Reply #474 on: February 08, 2015, 07:48:33 PM »
Alacrity:
Thanks for the true story! First, it takes guts to be "real and true", and second, to move on, knowing what to watch out for next time.

I talk often about the 2 main Honda shops I worked in: I don't talk about a third one I was briefly at, until an event much like yours occurred. I hope to never be affiliated with them, in any way, as they still exist today (although I don't know if they are the same owners now). I also worked (briefly) at an electronics repair shop, until I saw a bill the owner gave the customer for the work I did on a tape deck. I spent 15 minutes to fix it, and it was billed out at 4 hours of "hi-tech labor". Since then, I also worked with a machine building shop who did the same type of thing on almost every job: when I found out, I quit cold. That owner tried to blacklist me, but the result of that became the most references I've ever had for new jobs! It turned out that many people knew what he was up to...

Well done, Honda rider!
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