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Offline Flyin900

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1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:39:18 PM »
I purchased this bike last fall from a fellow who had started to restore the bike initially and decided that he didn't have the time to continue with the rebuild. He also realized it was starting to get very expensive for the level of restoration he had started to do and wanted to ultimately achieve.
I received the bike in pieces with the frame, wheels all apart and the motor out of the bike and every other small item in boxes. This was a first for me as I usually buy a bike in a complete yet unrestored form and a lesson learned here and wouldn't do it again.
The good was the frame had been powder coated and the wheels, spokes and tires were all brand new and there was a good assortment of OEM Honda parts that came along with the deal including a new repo muffler. I continued with the building and restoring using OEM Honda or David Silver Spares parts and the wallet is a lot lighter these days.
My goal is to build the bike as close to factory as it was new and have replaced all the fasteners with new OEM Honda or stainless steel cap bolts on the motor. I don't have a lot of pictures of the bike in pieces as it was purchased, yet I have documented the motor rebuild and the addition of lots of new parts or refurbished and repainted pieces as the project has moved along.
The motor was torn down and I have a favorite machine shop that I use for machining and general motor work as needed. The crank and rod bearings were in good shape so no replacement needed. I replaced the rings with OEM and had the cylinders honed and the cam chain and both the tensioner and slipper replaced. I had a complete valve job done and new valve stem seals added and all new gaskets and O rings and seals throughout the entire motor. I put the motor back together a few weeks ago and got it back into the frame just recently.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 03:53:36 PM by Flyin900 »
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1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

Offline Flyin900

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 07:51:26 PM »
The carbs were a real mess from sitting with old gas in the bowls for a very long time it appears. I was able to get them clean enough to use as a parts source, as I had a mostly complete bank from a previous CB400F build left over. I needed to replace one carb on the better set that had a broken float pin post and did a complete tear down and rebuild to make one good set.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2018, 08:10:37 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

Offline Flyin900

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 08:03:15 PM »
I repaired a few areas in the wiring harness and cleaned and repainted all the electrical switches on both side of the bars. The switches are very well built overall and mostly just need to be cleaned and refreshed with new grease and contact cleaner. I am able to respray the covers and paint the red instruction inserts with model paint to look like new. The trick is to paint the covers in a low gloss Duplicolor engine enamel and bake it to harden and chemically resist any material. Paint over the red indented directional areas and wipe with brake clean and their just like new.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 03:56:17 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

Offline Flyin900

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 07:16:53 AM »
Frame and wheels and front end reassembly. The frame was mostly powder coated on the key areas and the PO upgraded the swing arm bushings to brass inserts. I repainted the battery box area and have a special liquid black automotive material that rejuvenates rubber and plastic that is discoloured from age. The regulator electrical cover was repainted and any small items within the battery box and PCV system were rebuilt.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 10:43:17 AM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

Offline Flyin900

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 07:28:45 AM »
The frame and motor are reunited here and I have started to assemble the remaining key items such as the wheels and brake assemblies to the build. All the brakes are fully rebuilt with all new components and new rubber/metal lines to ensure no old parts remain within the braking system.
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2018, 09:05:28 AM »
I repainted the battery box area and have a special liquid black automotive material that rejuvenates rubber and plastic that is discoloured from age.

What is your "special" sauce?

When I operated a printing press, we had a product we used called Rubber Rejuvenator on the rubber rollers of the printing press.  It was nasty stuff, but it seems to condition the rubber rollers after using some other nasty caustic stuff to clean off the ink.  I wonder if that stuff would be good on the rubber bike parts. . .
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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 10:53:48 AM »
looking good, those carbs had some serious varnish buildup.  ::)

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 12:21:15 PM »
I am working on finishing up the clocks after a face refresh and relubing the internals and trying to paint the outer cans in a 15 degree F garage with snow falling outside. I came up with a small box with space heater blowing into the cavity and spraying around into the inside warmth to get the paint to stay. It has been trial and error with a few too many coats initially, so strip and start again.  :)
Yes those carbs were mostly unusable as the jet towers had serious metal loss once they were cleaned. i have rebuilt lots of carbs and never have I seen a set that bad, although I do have some extra parts now.
Here is the black rubber rejuvenator that I use and it is mainly a refresher for rubber that has started to turn grey from age. I can't say it will help old brittle rubber. I use it mainly to refresh the colour back to black and with a few coats the rubber parts look new again.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 01:24:38 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 01:27:03 PM »
I'm not able to see any of these photos, for some reason.

Anyways I have had luck using a product called seal saver, it's a 100% silicon (or latex, can't remember) liquid that moisturizes rubber pretty well.

There is a 400f in pieces near me asking $1800. It's tempting but it's the same thing, they started off by rebuilding the engine and painting the whole thing black. Which leaves the buyer with the question, do you now have to paint everything else black? And with the nice shiny engine and frame, and tank, now I'd have to clean up and paint and rechrome everything.
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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 09:56:29 AM »
Holy cow....what a transformation.   Love how you tackled the handlebar switchgear rejuvenation.


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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 11:55:12 AM »
I was able to finish putting the clocks back together today and I am happy how the paint turned out on the outer cans given the cold environment. I replaced the gauge cushions which are still available from Honda. I have in the past split the crimp ring and this time I pried all around the ring to release the two halves. I prefer the second option although it is a little more time consuming, yet trying to hold and cement the split ring back together is a challenge.
I was able to reuse the crimp ring and used lineman's pliers to go around the old ring and recrimp the original ring without any issues.

Couple of pictures of the finished gauges.

« Last Edit: February 10, 2018, 03:52:49 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2018, 06:30:13 PM »
 ;) 8)  nice work...Larry

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2018, 08:16:32 AM »
Really nice work.   It's the combination of a million small details eh?   

Craftsmanship shows.


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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2018, 07:53:31 PM »
Thank you Spuds... every bike that I restore always gets a high level of attention. This one though has gotten a little off course, as I originally noted at the start of this post the PO started with spending $$$ on quality parts and workmanship. I decided to follow suite and do a full on 100% restoration, so it has become quite over the top financially.

I don't do this to make money, it is a hobby that I enjoy in retirement and I like the challenge of doing different bikes, yet always Honda. For me personally it just gets too repetitive doing the same model over and over again. You become very good at it, yet a one trick pony... and I like more than one trick up my sleeve these days.

I come and go from this and other forums depending on the model I am currently working on presently. The early Goldwings are a passion, since they are such a unique bike and were quite a departure in design, engineering and performance when originally introduced in 1975.

Here's a 1976 that I restored a few years ago that has some unique wheels and accents on the bike.





« Last Edit: February 17, 2018, 08:05:11 PM by Flyin900 »
Common sense.....isn't so common!

1966 CL77 - 305cc - Gentleman's Scrambler
1967 CL175K0 - Scrambler #802 engine
1972 CB350F - Candy Bacchus Olive - Super Sport
1973 CB350F - Flake Matador Red - Super Sport
1975 CB400F - Parakeet Yellow - Super Sport
1976 CB400F - Varnish Blue - Super Sport
1976 GL1000 - Goldwing Standard
1978 CB550K - Super Sport
1981 GL1100 - Goldwing Standard
1982 CM450A - Hondamatic
1982 CB900C - Custom
1983 CX650E - Eurosport
1983 CB1000C - Custom X 2 Bikes now - both restored
1983 CB1100F - Super Sport - Pristine example
1984 GL1200 - Goldwing Standard

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Re: 1975 CB400F rebuild and reassembly
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 08:28:29 PM »
Subscribed.  Great job!  Inspiration for my own build!
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1972 Honda CT70K1
1975 Honda MR50
1975 Honda CB400F Supersport
1977 Honda CB750F2 Supersport
1978 Honda XL100
1979 Honda CBX Supersport
1982 Honda VF750S Sabre - Adventure Bike modified
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