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Offline skidooextreme

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2013, 03:35:18 AM »
i am in, just building my bike back from a total restoration right now.  Any update on the Mini-Four side forum?

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2013, 07:50:08 AM »
the boyer micro power is a true "hop up" kit that will at the same time free up charging power,if you want to retain points dont even consider it,if you want the fall back of points dont consider it,although if your looking for a more solid charging rate even at lower rpms along with a higher spark output at the same time and are prepared to spend some money on a reliable unit you might consider using the boyer micro power system,too many dynas have thrown a dark shadow on any electronic systems as a whole,,the pamco unit would also be a good choice ive never used one but the ever failing dynas swings me that way,,the other option is dark,,very dark,,a hybrid of GM/bosch modules coupled with susy or cb650 pick ups etc,a mish mash of solid reliable parts,the boyer pick up plate can even be used,,you never heard it from me mind you??so?how do i set my points again?i think ive got one and two squared away?but the gap keeps changing?now they wont spark?it wouldnt surprise me to find 98%of any electronic ignition failure is due to installer error?wrong coils or wrong connections,,#$%* me dead,,half the #$%*s on any forum cant even get their #$%*ing indicators working,yet will #$%* can an electronic ignition system?
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2013, 10:10:06 AM »
I'd be interested as well.  I recently purchased a couple of your transistor ignitions so would it be possible to "finish the set" so to speak?

Also are you considering anything like this for CB450 twins?

Thanks.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2013, 01:45:52 PM »
I'd be interested as well.  I recently purchased a couple of your transistor ignitions so would it be possible to "finish the set" so to speak?

Also are you considering anything like this for CB450 twins?

Thanks.

Considering it is the same Hondaman ignition for both bikes, I bet it works!

Slightly off topic: the single point version has been adapted to a 72 Vespa Sprint, removing the need for the totally craptacular VespaTronic conversion. Saw there is a 6v version... Have to tell the Vespa boys about that...
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2013, 10:53:37 PM »
I'd be interested as well.  I recently purchased a couple of your transistor ignitions so would it be possible to "finish the set" so to speak?

Also are you considering anything like this for CB450 twins?

Thanks.

Actually, it would be the same kit, if the 3-ohm coils would fit the 450? Haven't tried that one.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2013, 01:59:36 PM »
Question: will with the kit be possible to use spark plugs with build-in resistors? I am asking because I was curious to try the iridium spark plugs, but they do not come without the resistors, and I cannot find connectors with no build in resistors as well.

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Davide

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2013, 08:03:00 PM »
Question: will with the kit be possible to use spark plugs with build-in resistors? I am asking because I was curious to try the iridium spark plugs, but they do not come without the resistors, and I cannot find connectors with no build in resistors as well.

Thanks,

Davide

The OEM sparkplug caps for the 1969-1974 SOHC4 bikes were 7500 ohms. If you use the 5000 ohm caps, you should also be able to use the 2000 ohm (typical) sparkplug with it and be within the range of the coils, so long as the resistances match well from one plug to the next.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2013, 10:55:45 PM »
Thanks for the answer. In general, do you think the iridium plugs make any difference?

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2013, 12:16:29 PM »
I'll base this on personal experience only. When I tried running iridium plugs in several different "older" vehicles, I almost felt like I lost power and economy.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2013, 12:23:08 PM »
Thanks for the answer. In general, do you think the iridium plugs make any difference?

D.
I'll base this on personal experience only. When I tried running iridium plugs in several different "older" vehicles, I almost felt like I lost power and economy.

That was my experience, too. I think those plugs might be designed for much higher-voltage, fuel-injected engine situations where combustion is tightly controlled. That certainly isn't these engines!
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2013, 12:25:33 PM »
Thanks for the answer. In general, do you think the iridium plugs make any difference?

D.
I'll base this on personal experience only. When I tried running iridium plugs in several different "older" vehicles, I almost felt like I lost power and economy.

That was my experience, too. I think those plugs might be designed for much higher-voltage, fuel-injected engine situations where combustion is tightly controlled. That certainly isn't these engines!

They made my 05 Buell have a very lousy low rpm stumble that would almost throw you over the handlebars. It was absolutely terrible.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2013, 05:58:47 PM »
I'd be interested in the kit too!
I want to die like my grandfather did...in his sleep and not screaming like the passengers in his car!

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2013, 10:27:33 AM »
H-man

Short and to the point: yes, i'd be interested in a 550 ignition upgrade.  Keep us informed when it's available.

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2013, 04:44:21 PM »
Sounds like I need to contact Dyna and see if they have a "group discount" on their coils? :)
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2013, 08:41:03 AM »
sounds good to me i need a complete system! only thing i have is a reg/rec combo and oem harness
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2013, 03:32:15 PM »
Any word from Dyna yet?  My timeline just moved up dramatically as the result of repeated condenser failure and a strong desire to use my newly rebuilt engine, new tire, sprockets, brake shoes and fabricated exhaust.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2013, 11:19:29 AM »
Any word from Dyna yet?  My timeline just moved up dramatically as the result of repeated condenser failure and a strong desire to use my newly rebuilt engine, new tire, sprockets, brake shoes and fabricated exhaust.

I've been working 12-16 hour days since early June, haven't much time recently. :(
Heck, I haven't even been able to get to a new bank to fix my Paypal for almost a year, now! Whew...
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2013, 09:17:00 PM »
Thanks for making time to respond. Hope you're alt least able to ride to work :)
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2013, 12:46:48 PM »
You can add me to the possibly interested list.

Let me know when some time frees up, and you get in touch with Dyna.
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2013, 10:26:01 PM »
Thanks for making time to respond. Hope you're alt least able to ride to work :)

My 750 is apart for a rebuild, too. :(

But, I did get the head back today! :)

(Update 7/7: the shop screwed it up.  >:(  ).
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See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2013, 08:45:27 PM »
Definitely interested in your ignition.

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2013, 07:27:22 PM »
Just curious if this is still on the radar? I've been waiting to buy any additional "ignition" related parts until I find out if this kit will become available...no hurries, just wanted to know if I should keep saving my pennies.

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2013, 07:58:30 PM »
Just curious if this is still on the radar? I've been waiting to buy any additional "ignition" related parts until I find out if this kit will become available...no hurries, just wanted to know if I should keep saving my pennies.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Yes, I'll be attempting to paste together something, probably in January. I've been so tied up at work that I haven't even had time to assemble my poor 750, now sitting on the patio, shivering, naked in the snow... :(

But, I think this project is approaching the end, finally. I've got 5 such "projects" in the works, now! For this one, I am leaning toward the "mini" coils in 3.0 ohm type for their improved fit: the older Green ones are bigger than OEM coils, and the 500/550 is already hard pressed for space under the tank. Heck, they barely fit under the K1 750 tank!
See SOHC4shop@gmail.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
Hondaman's creed: "Bikers are family. Treat them accordingly."

Link to Hondaman Ignition: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

Link to My CB750 Book: https://www.lulu.com/search?adult_audience_rating=00&page=1&pageSize=10&q=my+cb750+book

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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2013, 10:44:42 PM »
That's awesome...can't wait for it. And Jan timing will actually work out pretty well for my teardown and rebuild.

Best of luck with your 750 and other projects :)
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Re: CB500/550/350F/400F Ignition 'hopup' kit: how much interest?
« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2013, 03:10:45 AM »
just came across this... yes sounds very interesting for my 550f. especially if it's something that can be shipped to europe.