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Offline 74cb750

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« on: September 28, 2006, 03:01:15 AM »
Most times when I go to the store, I leave the keys, helmet on seat, and gloves on the tach.
The parking lot holds 300 cars. Never had a problem.

My brother parks his bike (KTM 605?) at a mall in downtown Manchester, NH. It is noon so he locks the front end,
chains the rear wheel, takes his helmet/keys/gloves with him. After lunching he comes out to find no bike.
He calls the cops.
3 different set of witnesses say the bike was picked up:
1st witness- by 3 guys in a RED van,
2nd- by 2 guys in a BLUE newer Chevy pickup truck
3rd- by 2 buys in a Maroon truck.

The cops told my brother he probably will not get his bike back.

What is wrong here?
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michel
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2006, 03:32:03 AM »
thieves are the lowest form of scum
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 08:05:05 AM »
man that really sux,id be homicidal >:(
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 08:21:20 AM »
That sucks the big one. Hope he had good all-perils insurance...

RIDE magazine in the UK did an experiment where a sportbike (with alarm) was parked up in a busy city centre, in front of loads of witnesses. Rider retreats and the mag staff, who are hidden, watch what happens when a gang of 'thieves' (other mag staff) roll up in a white van, pick the bike up, alarm blaring, and put it in the van. Rider returns ands asks people (who were there when the bike was 'stolen', and who must have heard the alarm go off) about his bike. No one noticed!

They then repeated the experiment right in front of the local cop shop. Same result.

Bottom line.: if some thieving scum want your bike they will have it. An alarm is no real deterrent. End of story.
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2006, 08:33:38 AM »
Quote from: nickjtc on September 28, 2006, 08:21:20 AM
That sucks the big one. Hope he had good all-perils insurance...

RIDE magazine in the UK did an experiment where a sportbike (with alarm) was parked up in a busy city centre, in front of loads of witnesses. Rider retreats and the mag staff, who are hidden, watch what happens when a gang of 'thieves' (other mag staff) roll up in a white van, pick the bike up, alarm blaring, and put it in the van. Rider returns ands asks people (who were there when the bike was 'stolen', and who must have heard the alarm go off) about his bike. No one noticed!

They then repeated the experiment right in front of the local cop shop. Same result.

Bottom line.: if some thieving scum want your bike they will have it. An alarm is no real deterrent. End of story.

This doesn't suprise me in the least. It hardly fazes me when a car alarm goes off anymore. Perhaps it's because alarms are used too much to find cars in parking lots, or some weird attitude that it is somebody else's problem...
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2006, 08:41:52 AM »
Yeah, car alarms used to be rare and people would notice. Now everybody's got one and nobody notices. When I built my alarm for my old '78 Caprice, I just wired a relay to the dome light and the horn. If the door opened, the horn started blaring and didn't stop until I shut it off. A solid horn brings more attention than the normal alarm that you hear over and over.
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2006, 10:17:57 AM »
"1st witness- by 3 guys in a RED van,
2nd- by 2 guys in a BLUE newer Chevy pickup truck
3rd- by 2 buys in a Maroon truck."

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Re: not stolen
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2006, 01:18:11 PM »
I think I would rather wire my bike to explode than let the bastards take it >:(
The bike could take them with it too.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2006, 01:33:32 PM »
This is all the reason for a LoJack system for your bike. I am working on becoming a dealer for them here soon. They claim your bike can be found in less than 24 hours. I say #$%* the bike, I want 5 MINTUES ALONE with the thief.  ::) :-\ There will only be one of us leaving.... 8) I am willing to bet I can scalp him to the first layer of skin to his waist in - cotterized skin- with a dull butter knife.

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« Last Edit: September 28, 2006, 01:37:32 PM by ElCheapo »
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2006, 01:44:18 PM »
Quote from: 74cb750 on September 28, 2006, 03:01:15 AM
Most times when I go to the store, I leave the keys, helmet on seat, and gloves on the tach.
The parking lot holds 300 cars. Never had a problem.

My brother parks his bike (KTM 605?) at a mall in downtown Manchester, NH. It is noon so he locks the front end,
chains the rear wheel, takes his helmet/keys/gloves with him. After lunching he comes out to find no bike.
He calls the cops.
3 different set of witnesses say the bike was picked up:
1st witness- by 3 guys in a RED van,
2nd- by 2 guys in a BLUE newer Chevy pickup truck
3rd- by 2 buys in a Maroon truck.

The cops told my brother he probably will not get his bike back.

What is wrong here?
peace,
michel

Most malls today have security cameras that survey parking lots, maybe a camera caught the act on tape?  Worth looking into...

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Re: not stolen
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2006, 02:27:31 PM »
Quote from: ElCheapo on September 28, 2006, 01:33:32 PM
This is all the reason for a LoJack system for your bike. I am working on becoming a dealer for them here soon. They claim your bike can be found in less than 24 hours. I say #$%* the bike, I want 5 MINTUES ALONE with the thief.  ::) :-\ There will only be one of us leaving.... 8) I am willing to bet I can scalp him to the first layer of skin to his waist in - cotterized skin- with a dull butter knife.

Make you life better

http://www.lojack.com/

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 03:59:11 PM »
I'm knocking on wood here, but i have noticed that it seems the majority of stolen bikes are modern sportbikes and scooters.  Maybe it's because they're lighter and easier to load?    Often times vandalism is the unfortunate end result.  A friend of mine had his GN400 stolen, an the thieves just threw it in a ditch. 

We've got some cycle alarms here at work, and the fleeting idea of putting one on my bike was killed by the thought of a stray cat jumping on my seat ad setting it off at 3 am- not something i want to happen.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 07:24:03 PM »
Brother had minimal insurance as it is/was mostly used as a dirt bike.

He has more bikes, but really liked this one.
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 07:27:39 PM »
I would take another dead bike and set a trap in the same place.

Then ROCK AND ROLL...... 8)

Then you rock the F#ckers until they don't roll. Or you follow them and roll thier asses big time. NO ONE EVER STEALS FROM ME AND GETS AWAY WITH IT.  8) There is one saying that comes to mind. FORTUNA FAVET FORTIBUS, "Fortune Favors the Strong" now go get thier asses before they get another.....................
« Last Edit: September 28, 2006, 07:33:25 PM by ElCheapo »
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 08:54:39 PM »
Cheapo, Hows the bed rest going?  Feeling a bit more chipper?
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2006, 09:00:51 PM »
Quote from: seaweb11 on September 28, 2006, 08:54:39 PM
Cheapo, Hows the bed rest going?  Feeling a bit more chipper?

Comming back up with much more fight  ;) A sort of Phoenix thing.....

Coughed a whole 3 times today and comming back with a vengeance. Listening to Dope "Die mutha f#cker die" right now and feeling pretty damn good. Have already stepped to the plate and thrown down the gauntlet (and spit on it) on the funny talking cafe builder in CA. I double dog dare him.............. ;D ;D >:( >:( Show me your balls when you walk buddy!  ;D

I think it is clear in our "About the owner" page on the web site.  ;D ;D :D

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2006, 09:05:26 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D good to see you back swinging your dick EC ;D ;D ;D ::) ;D
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2006, 09:12:31 PM »
After I get my bike running I'm going to rig up a device the electrocutes anyone that sits on my seat that does not pass the finger print scan and...........You know I'm kidding right? ;D
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2006, 10:43:53 PM »
Quote from: ElCheapo on September 28, 2006, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: seaweb11 on September 28, 2006, 08:54:39 PM
Cheapo, Hows the bed rest going?  Feeling a bit more chipper?

Comming back up with much more fight  ;) A sort of Phoenix thing.....

Coughed a whole 3 times today and comming back with a vengeance. Listening to Dope "Die mutha f#cker die" right now and feeling pretty damn good. Have already stepped to the plate and thrown down the gauntlet (and spit on it) on the funny talking cafe builder in CA. I double dog dare him.............. ;D ;D >:( >:( Show me your balls when you walk buddy!  ;D

I think it is clear in our "About the owner" page on the web site.  ;D ;D :D

Discovery Channel.................. Take this mutha and you will not be disappointed....

What the hell you rambling about cheapo?
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 03:25:32 AM »
ElCheapo is having difficulty with his medication lately. ;D
Don't be too concerned.
Hope you kick the flu soon Elcheapo
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 03:33:13 PM »
Maybe the bike was not stolen... maybe it is on the TV show being overhauled by Chip Foose....Maybe?  yeah mayeb not.....
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2006, 04:01:44 PM »
My son is in the Navy stationed on O'ahu and had his GSXR 1000 stolen when he went to the movie, he said it was parked in front of the theater and had an alarm on it.The police told him he probably would not get it back and he hasn't. Looks like on a small island like that the police would know every crook on the island. Dannie
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2006, 04:20:34 PM »
Quote from: 6adan on September 29, 2006, 04:01:44 PM
My son is in the Navy stationed on O'ahu and had his GSXR 1000 stolen when he went to the movie, he said it was parked in front of the theater and had an alarm on it.The police told him he probably would not get it back and he hasn't. Looks like on a small island like that the police would know every crook on the island. Dannie

Trouble is, in most cases the stolen bike is immediately broken down for parts. Unless you mark every part of your bike it is impossible for the feds to link it to you. The police probably 'know' who the scumbags are, but without hard evidence cannot do antything about it, sad to relate.
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2006, 08:19:23 PM »
I have to say that after loading my '76 CB750 onto a '79 Datsun P/U (Low,low, to the ground) that a thief would have to REALLY want one of these old bikes to steal it that way.  Anyway, most thieves are a little sissified, so we're probably safe ;)
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Re: not stolen
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2006, 09:27:25 PM »
Damn ....I really like Elder's EYE DEER about having it blow up when the wrong dude is riding it. I'd probably be pissed about losing the bike but to see that #$%* that took it looking like the coyote on a roadrunner cartoon......Priceless!!!!
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