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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2015, 11:40:39 AM »
This bike is so original in many ways.....look closely at this pic again. There's a bracket that fits behind the LH foot peg and holds the drain tube for the air box, which is present. (You can just see the bracket on the stud and the end of the drain under the mufflers.



Scott... looking great so far!  Question for you.... What size is the filter box drain tube?  I need to source one of these, but haven't found oem and don't know ID or length of the tube.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2015, 03:43:22 PM »
 It's pretty small....it necks down after the nipple on the air box and the piece you see sticking out in that photo is what we used to call the "pooter" in the VW world. It has a slit in the end and you pinch it to let the moisture out.
 The hose leading to it is ~8.9mm O.D. Good luck finding one....
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2015, 03:47:48 PM »
 I got the 400F bars installed. I need to get a set of my favorite grips. Also, when installing the braided stainless brake lines I discovered that the hard line and caliper body fittings were cross threaded. Luckily, I have another caliper body....but...the pad on the caliper side was wet. I'm just going to be done with it and order a new piston, seal and hard line.
 I'm a big fan of the David Silver Spares master cylinder, but the stock one is working great and not leaking, so new lines and a rebuilt caliper will do the job. That's the same set up I have on my 550F and it's fine.





 Forks will soon be removed for service and polishing. And when the wheel goes back on, it won't be a wire wheel.  8)
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2015, 04:24:28 PM »
What grips?  Lesters?!
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2015, 04:40:03 PM »
Scott... looking great so far!  Question for you.... What size is the filter box drain tube?  I need to source one of these, but haven't found oem and don't know ID or length of the tube.  Thanks in advance!

Kyle
It's still available from David Silver Spares
http://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB500K1-FOUR-1972/part_61404/

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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2015, 04:41:41 PM »
Scott... looking great so far!  Question for you.... What size is the filter box drain tube?  I need to source one of these, but haven't found oem and don't know ID or length of the tube.  Thanks in advance!

Kyle
It's still available from David Silver Spares
http://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB500K1-FOUR-1972/part_61404/

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 Well, I'll be darned.... that one's missing the "pooter" on the end, not that it really matters.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2015, 04:42:46 PM »
What grips?  Lesters?!

 I love the Pro Grip 714's. And, Yes.....Lesters!

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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2015, 04:46:10 PM »
The Pro Grips are my fav too, just installed a set on my 550F.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2015, 04:48:59 PM »
I also use the Pro Grip 714s on my 750 -- very comfortable and functional. 

Nice Lesters!!

Any decision on color?
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2015, 04:58:00 PM »
 As of today, Jade Green. :)
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2015, 07:27:12 PM »
Check out how dark CB750 Cafe Fan's jade bike came out; it looks awesome.  It's in one of his more recent posts.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2015, 07:48:38 PM »
That stock exhaust looks pretty amazing. Does it have the baffles or have they been removed?  I imagine it sounds pretty good with a non-baffled 4-4.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2015, 08:43:50 PM »
So jealous of those wheels. I don't like anything but spokes normally but I really dig those. Great work on the carbs too. They turned out super clean.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2015, 03:41:21 AM »
Check out how dark CB750 Cafe Fan's jade bike came out; it looks awesome.  It's in one of his more recent posts.

 I saw that..... and I don't care for it (Sorry, Don  :(  ). I LOVE the blue bodywork he has, though.
 I'm working with a painter on getting the correct factory hue. I was torn between the green and the blue. I've seen Jade Green come out wrong too many times; too much yellow, too dark, too much flake, etc. If we have trouble getting it right, I'll switch to the blue.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2015, 03:44:12 AM »
That stock exhaust looks pretty amazing. Does it have the baffles or have they been removed?  I imagine it sounds pretty good with a non-baffled 4-4.

 The exhaust IS nice. I had planned on a 4-1 when I built this bike in my head, but those are too nice to remove. A minor ding here and there and the usual battery acid stain on the inside, but very solid and shiny.
 Baffles are still there and they sound great.

 I've always heard you'd be hard pressed to find better performing pipes for the 500/550. Only race pipes and then only at high RPM. You only save weight. Supposedly, the stock 4-4 is a very good set up.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2015, 07:53:05 AM »
Check out how dark CB750 Cafe Fan's jade bike came out; it looks awesome.  It's in one of his more recent posts.

 I saw that..... and I don't care for it (Sorry, Don  :(  ). I LOVE the blue bodywork he has, though.
 I'm working with a painter on getting the correct factory hue. I was torn between the green and the blue. I've seen Jade Green come out wrong too many times; too much yellow, too dark, too much flake, etc. If we have trouble getting it right, I'll switch to the blue.

I'd love to see it in Jade Green. It will set it apart from mine and dmonday's in orange.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2015, 07:54:37 AM »
That stock exhaust looks pretty amazing. Does it have the baffles or have they been removed?  I imagine it sounds pretty good with a non-baffled 4-4.

 The exhaust IS nice. I had planned on a 4-1 when I built this bike in my head, but those are too nice to remove. A minor ding here and there and the usual battery acid stain on the inside, but very solid and shiny.
 Baffles are still there and they sound great.

 I've always heard you'd be hard pressed to find better performing pipes for the 500/550. Only race pipes and then only at high RPM. You only save weight. Supposedly, the stock 4-4 is a very good set up.

I've seen reproduction 4-4s to 750s but not 550s. Rare in good shape.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2015, 04:24:37 PM »
 This is the first CB500/550 I've had that has the stock 4-4 exhaust. Went to swap put the rear wheel today and was surprised to find out that the exhaust has to come off!
 That's OK, it gave me a chance to touch up the frame, swing arm, exhaust brackets and even clean up the hard to reach spots on the mufflers.




 I soaked the exhaust clamps and a spare set I had in a mix of naval jelly and water. Still some rusty spots, but I'll be able to pick out the four best.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2015, 04:27:42 PM »
 I cleaned the chain and got the real Lester installed. I tried adjusting the brake but it seems to take up all the adjustment before I get a good pedal. It was soft before, but I didn't mess with it because I knew I'd be swapping out the wheel/backing plate.

 The new backing plate has EBC shoes with only a few hundred miles on them. The pivot is installed right, dots lined up on the arm, the brake lever is the same, etc. Guess I'll just have to take the foot lever off and rotate it a couple of splines?



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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2015, 05:20:41 PM »
The rear wheel comes off easily without having to take the stock exhaust off, what made you have to pull the exhaust all the way off?
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2015, 05:52:44 PM »
 There was no way the axle was coming out. I consulted my genuine shop manual and it said to remove the left and right exhausts.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2015, 05:54:38 PM »
Only way to do it with 4:4 installed is to disconnect the shocks, lower swing arm, and pull the axle. Lot of hassle, easier to remove pipes.
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2015, 05:57:44 PM »
Haha come on guys, none of you have simply removed the chain adjuster stops and slid the rear wheel and axle off the swingarm? That's how i did mine (if I'm remembering correctly).
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Re: The Replacement: CB550
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2015, 06:01:04 PM »
 The only problem with that is I have a riveted chain. If I had a master link, maybe that would work.
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« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2015, 07:06:48 PM »
And that depends upon whether the swing arm is open at the end. Some years are not.
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