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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #525 on: February 01, 2017, 04:37:35 PM »
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« Reply #526 on: February 01, 2017, 05:38:34 PM »
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« Reply #527 on: February 01, 2017, 06:25:05 PM »
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #528 on: February 02, 2017, 12:28:26 AM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes, is it less weight or just for esthetics and another thing to bleed?  It does look very trick/slick/etc.  And it is a nice bit of bike porn.
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #529 on: February 02, 2017, 07:15:09 AM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes, is it less weight or just for esthetics and another thing to bleed?  It does look very trick/slick/etc.  And it is a nice bit of bike porn.

With a modern front brakes, the stock rear drum brake's shortcomings are definitely more apparent.  Initially, I was going to replace the rear drum hub with 750F hub, but it is massively heavy, especially with the heavy rear rotor.  So the most significant appeal to me is the lighter unsprung weight.  The bike porn is the icing.
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #530 on: February 02, 2017, 09:48:45 AM »
Click and weep!!  Mine, Cal's and Cam's

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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #531 on: February 02, 2017, 10:00:06 AM »
Nice high performance styling 8)
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #532 on: February 02, 2017, 03:14:01 PM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes

I hope that was sarcasm Raf, The Honda is no different than most other bikes, Around 90% front, 10% rear.... ;)
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #533 on: February 02, 2017, 03:25:58 PM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes

I hope that was sarcasm Raf, The Honda is no different than most other bikes, Around 90% front, 10% rear.... ;)

1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #534 on: February 02, 2017, 03:32:33 PM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes

I hope that was sarcasm Raf, The Honda is no different than most other bikes, Around 90% front, 10% rear.... ;)

Rear brakes work ok w/ very light applications to settle/lower the bike a little for some curves,or stop n' go dead-headed traffic;that's about all I use it for,unless the road surface is sketchy.
I'd rather pretend I don't have a rear brake..
« Last Edit: February 02, 2017, 08:17:03 PM by grcamna2 »
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #535 on: February 02, 2017, 04:32:12 PM »
And then there's Tom Sykes and Troy Bayliss  . . .   ;D
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #536 on: February 03, 2017, 02:21:05 AM »
Since the rear brake does so much of the braking effort on these bikes

I hope that was sarcasm Raf, The Honda is no different than most other bikes, Around 90% front, 10% rear.... ;)


Of course it was sarcasm Retro.  It is only money.  They are going to drop a nice bit of coin for the rear brake setup and I agree it is a logical step in a resto mod...just a lot of coin for something that is essentially eye candy.  There are situations you need to be braking more with the rear but they are an extremely small percentage of the time.  Like anything on the bike, you really should practice for those events to know how to do them as well as keep fresh in your mind and reflexes how much you can apply.  It is too bad we can't practice to the limits to learn what really is too much as well as too little, just the results of going too far or too little can be expensive. You can't really substitute another bike for obvious reasons...
Not to mention tire wear factoring into the equation along with lots of other things.






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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #537 on: February 03, 2017, 09:02:36 AM »
Damn it!  Now I need one of those also.  I should have just bought a new Ducati, it would have saved money in the long run.

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« Reply #538 on: February 03, 2017, 10:07:52 AM »
Damn it!  Now I need one of those also.  I should have just bought a new Ducati, it would have saved money in the long run.

Dude....I question this very frequently...then again, just means you need to add more diverse motorcycles to your fleet! Crazy to think our Honda's are virtually rolling retirement funds, haha.
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #539 on: February 03, 2017, 10:14:29 AM »
Damn it!  Now I need one of those also.  I should have just bought a new Ducati, it would have saved money in the long run.

Dude....I question this very frequently...then again, just means you need to add more diverse motorcycles to your fleet! Crazy to think our Honda's are virtually rolling retirement funds, haha.

Says the 28-year-old!  Thankfully, you have some time to diversify your retirement portfolio. 
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #540 on: February 03, 2017, 10:24:14 AM »
Damn it!  Now I need one of those also.  I should have just bought a new Ducati, it would have saved money in the long run.

Dude....I question this very frequently...then again, just means you need to add more diverse motorcycles to your fleet! Crazy to think our Honda's are virtually rolling retirement funds, haha.

Says the 26-year-old!  Thankfully, you have some time to diversify your retirement portfolio.

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Just being precautious! Been taking the aggressive approach the past few years.

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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #541 on: February 03, 2017, 10:26:51 AM »
Damn it!  Now I need one of those also.  I should have just bought a new Ducati, it would have saved money in the long run.

Dude....I question this very frequently...then again, just means you need to add more diverse motorcycles to your fleet! Crazy to think our Honda's are virtually rolling retirement funds, haha.

Says the 26-year-old!  Thankfully, you have some time to diversify your retirement portfolio.

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Just being precautious! Been taking the aggressive approach the past few years.

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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #542 on: February 04, 2017, 12:25:38 PM »
Same here brother. Rear disc brake parts arrived!


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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #543 on: February 04, 2017, 12:35:58 PM »
Don, I just got a detailed peek at the rear hub from Devin. You're going to mess your panties when it arrives.  :o He has hit this thing out-of-the-fricking-bike-porn-park! I'm not releasing any public sneak peeks though until he releases them through his site. Out of respect-
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #544 on: February 04, 2017, 12:40:53 PM »
^^😂😂😂😂

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« Reply #545 on: February 04, 2017, 01:44:46 PM »
LOL. What's worse, Ron, is I actually have video not just pictures. 
Yeah, well Bill says you're a nice guy but I'm questioning his judgement about right now!  >:(

Just kidding.  I am very interested though to see how this turns out.  Is he making the hubs out of aluminum or do you know?
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #546 on: February 04, 2017, 02:21:28 PM »
Don, I just got a detailed peek at the rear hub from Devin. You're going to mess your panties when it arrives.  :o He has hit this thing out-of-the-fricking-bike-porn-park! I'm not releasing any public sneak peeks though until he releases them through his site. Out of respect-

Sweet!! I am of the same mindset -- but I would dig it if you emailed me the footage only for my own personal use (of course)!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #547 on: February 04, 2017, 03:12:32 PM »
While a rear brake doesn't produce a signficant percentage of braking power, it does produces more controlled braking. In certain riding circumstances, it is the better brake to use as well. And you should always also use the rear brake as part of normal braking habits.

That's certainly what I notice racing enduro. Rear brake not only keeps the bike in a straight line under heavy load but I think the 5% braking it offers seems to steady the load in to the front brake allowing for a touch more traction in the front too.

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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #548 on: February 04, 2017, 07:17:33 PM »
Sweet!! I am of the same mindset -- but I would dig it if you emailed me the footage only for my own personal use (of course)!

No fair!  ::)
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Re: The Hot Mess - 1975 CB550F1 Frame/1981 CB650 Engine
« Reply #549 on: February 06, 2017, 09:43:42 AM »
Getting closer...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQLBzYeA5mW/?taken-by=cognitomoto

Damn straight!  Looking good!!  The internal machining for the cush drive rubbers, bearing retainers, etc, looks amazing, too.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold