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RE: Are you a Hipster
« on: October 31, 2015, 07:40:12 AM »
I am so excited after reading 100s of post on hipsters buying old vintage bikes I think I finally found out what a hipster is.


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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 08:19:29 AM »
10 Hours of Walking in Austin as a Hipster

If you want a good laugh check this out.



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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 10:39:43 AM »
Nerd!

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 11:14:31 AM »
Amusing.

I recognize a lot of the spots were that was filmed Downtown.

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 06:36:35 PM »
.Got my makeover.

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 06:49:28 PM »
I also learned Hipsters Love Coffee

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 07:29:23 PM »
Gotta put that hair in a bun Chewbacca - and then cover it with a tiny fedora...

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 07:37:03 PM »
Gotta put that hair in a bun Chewbacca - and then cover it with a tiny fedora...


Thanks for the tip.  I am on it.  I still feel like I have some work to do before I can fully infiltrate this subculture.  Heck I did not know what they were before today. 

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2015, 07:43:59 PM »
You'll be out by the time you're in at that pace...  :(

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 07:55:59 PM »
You'll be out by the time you're in at that pace...  :(

Not so sure about that.  I looked in my closet and it is full of vintage clothes!  I wore flannel and rocked power beards before it was even cool.  And I was a lumberjack too.  I am weak on ordering a 26 word coffee at Starbucks though.

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 08:01:38 PM »
That you and I are futzing around on the SOHC forums on Halloween pretty much guarantees it <ironic emoji tbd>

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2015, 10:32:24 AM »
The first vid does justice to hipster discussion haha
Thanks for the laugh, chewy


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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 02:28:46 PM »
The first vid does justice to hipster discussion haha
Thanks for the laugh, chewy


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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2015, 02:37:29 PM »
Gotta put that hair in a bun Chewbacca - and then cover it with a tiny fedora...

Get this man an ironic mustache, STAT!
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2015, 03:08:43 PM »
Gotta put that hair in a bun Chewbacca - and then cover it with a tiny fedora...

Get this man an ironic mustache, STAT!
 

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2015, 08:29:13 PM »
Gotta put that hair in a bun Chewbacca - and then cover it with a tiny fedora...

Get this man an ironic mustache, STAT!
 

I don't get it I thought power beards were in?  Got a case of Rogain on order for Movember.

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2015, 11:51:59 AM »
If you live in Texas, kill them all and let God sort them out.
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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2015, 12:21:55 PM »
If you live in Texas, kill them all and let God sort them out.

Hopefully you are quick on the draw, don't want to get the coffee blitz from this super caffeinated hipster.

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2015, 12:26:05 PM »
Here is another one.  They are everywhere.  Man hipster make lawyers look civilized.


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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2015, 05:08:46 PM »
I wouldn't call that barista a hipster, but Silverlake is one of centers of Los Angeles hipster-dom.
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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2015, 10:25:46 AM »
One of my fav rants on the topic, second only to the epic Cafe Race Definition from the SOHC Dikshnury. Covers everything from Waxed mustaches, hipster bikes, steampunk, bobbers and cafe racers. Long read warning, but worthy IMO ;) I took the liberty to highlight some points for those just skimming.

Quote from: Scottie J link=https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=21231.0
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Dear Motorcycle Hipsters,

Hello.  I have been watching you.  In dismay, I must say.  With your trendy clothing, waxed mustaches and clean hands.   A biker, you say?  How can this be?  Because you own a bike?  Because you “built” your bike?  Or, just simply because you have labeled yourself a biker?  These are things I think to myself every day as of late.  So many questions to be answered, yet no answers can justify what you have done to motorcycle culture.

So, what is motorcycle culture?  To me, it is a detailed society, of which those who are a true part of, have been living, seeing, breathing, feeling and touching most of their lives.  Individuals who smell of exhaust and burnt oil that just rode 100 miles to nowhere just to ride.   But, it is more than just people with bikes, it is individual souls in sync with their machines.  It is the comradery amongst the culture, to help another soul in need when needed.  It is coming together as a whole to share a true love of motorcycling.  It is filled with people who love to ride, love to build and customize their rides, and being able to appreciate what someone else has built or accomplished in any frame of time.  It is about young riders and old riders alike sharing stories and experiences of the great open roads and trails.  Who wouldn’t want to be a part of this?!  Yet, I see the culture falling apart before my eyes.

While there are still true motorcycle enthusiasts out there, they are becoming rarer, and being replaced with hipsters.  Guys who want to be a part of the crowd, but take no initiative to strengthen the culture.  Taking bikes that were once a motorcycle icon and turning them into a big pile of steaming poop.  I get that not every rider has the ability or resources to build their own bike, which is totally fine.  I also get that not everyone has the same style and taste, which is also fine. Diversity is the key to originality.  But, what I don’t get is when some talentless know-it-all takes a beautifully restored bike, chops it all to hell, bolts on a few parts out of box, and then has the nerve to call it “a one-of-kind- custom”.  I also don’t get how anyone who is afraid to get their hands dirty can call themselves a biker.

This new era of “bikers” is slowly destroying motorcycle culture in its entirety.  What ever happened to riding your bike to the race track, racing all night and then riding back home?  And furthermore, whatever happened to stopping to help a fellow rider broken down on the side of the road?  Biking used to be a community, and now it has evolved into individualism.  Today it seems that these hipsters don’t even want to ride their bikes to Sturgis.  They just load it up on a trailer, drive across the country, unload 10 miles outside of town, and then ride in on theirs “steeds” like they just rode 1000 miles. It is fake, your personality and everything you stand for.  If you didn’t want to ride to Sturgis, then why did you go?  Oh, that’s right.  You only went to buy a couple of T-shirts so you could say you were there.  But if you’re going to live a lie, why not just buy the T-shirts online and say you were there?  After all, motorcycles were built to be ridden.  Right?

Motorcycle culture is falling apart.  And to help take it down is the emergence of new sub-cultures.  Let’s take Steampunk for example; apparently so real that the auto-correct on Microsoft Word actually acknowledges it as a word.  What is “Steampunk” you ask?  To sum it up, it is taking whatever old junk you can find, bolting it to a bike, make it rusty, and VIOLA!  You have a Steampunk bike.  I think a more appropriate term would be SteamPUKE.  None of these bikes are functional as a motorcycle beyond the fact that they have 2 wheels, an engine and can be ridden.  They are simply art pieces, some better than others, but none of which you could comfortably ride for more than 20 minutes.  So then the question becomes “why”?  Why build a bike that isn’t functional?  It makes no sense to me at all.  The only answer I can come up with is “because it is cool”, riders who only want attention because they have a unique bike.  You know these people, they guys who pull up to a stoplight and start revving their engine while looking around to see if anyone is watching.  Seriously dude.  I hope your throttle cable sticks next time and throws a rod through your block.

Another older sub-culture that is spitting out bikes left and right is Bobbers.  Now, I like a nice Bobber, especially when tastefully and talentedly built.  But, here we go again.  There are just too many people calling themselves “custom builders” and destroying perfectly good bikes.  Now, the Bobber scene isn’t getting too carried away as of yet, but there are plenty examples out there of people just chopping up the frame and hacking it back together, bolting on parts out of a box, spray painting it flat black and calling it “custom”.   Now, I don’t have that big of a gripe with the bobber and chopper sub-culture as most of the bikes I see are built well.  Yet, there are hacks out there giving it a bad name.

But, what has me the most disturbed is the absolute abomination that has become of the Café Racer sub-culture.  One of the first and oldest sub-cultures in motorcycling, and yet it has lost all of its meaning.  Café racing started in the UK in the early 60’s.  It was all about who had the fastest bike, who was the best rider and they literally raced from one café to the next.  There were not any teams so to speak of, mostly individuals building and tuning their bike themselves in their garage to achieve maximum performance, and to attempt to earn the rights to say they did The Ton, or 100mph.  This sub-culture would not even exist if it had not been for British motorcycles and British Rockers of the 50’s and 60’s going faster than they were ever intended to.  A true café racer would be that of a 50’s-70’s British motorcycle, equipped with a cowled single seat, modified fuel tank, performance modifications done in the garage and tuned to run like hell.  But, this isn’t about the history of Café Racers, it’s about the future. 

And the future is inevitably changing.  Why and how?  That is a great question.  First and foremost, this new generation of hipster builders knows very little of café history, if any at all.  Secondly, they have a bad habit of taking perfectly mint restored vintage British bikes, chopping the frames apart, throwing parts at it, “paint” it and call it a café racer.  They literally take a $15,000+ restored vintage bike, and turn it into a $2500 pile of parts.  And that is only if they even start with a British bike.  Majority of these hacks are building Café Racers out of Japanese bikes, which takes away all of the importance of the British history behind it.  I’m not totally against building a Café Racer out of a classic Jap bike, but it’s not totally right either.  Even worse is the new trend of taking sport bikes and building Café Racers.  First of all…..  No.  No, no, no, NO!  You cannot take a modern fuel injected sport bike and call it a Café Racer.  It is absolute sacrilegious.    A big part of the Café culture is to be constantly wrenching on and tuning your bike.  And guess what, while hooking your bike up to a laptop computer is sure convenient, you will never have a Café Racer in my eyes.  Secondly, where is the excitement in racing a modern appliance of a bike like it is old?  Do you not see the irony there, hipster?  No, of course you don’t, because you’re too busy trying to be a part of a fad than trying to revive the culture itself.  And lastly, just because you have a fat wallet with money to throw away, does NOT make you a garage builder.  In fact, I feel the exact opposite.  I think what makes a true garage builder is my approach: not having any money, build everything possible yourself, and making stuff work with what you have while still making it look right.  If you can make an old bike fast and make it look like a million bucks while forking out very little money, you are a successful garage builder.  Having an idea and throwing parts at any old bike does NOT.

So, the next time you see a custom bike, think to yourself; “Was this bike built with love, or was it built with money?”  If it was built with love, think of the hard work and passion that went into building it.  Appreciate its flaws and admire its beauty, take the time see into the bike, and not just its surface.  Talk to the owner, I’m sure he’ll have some amazing stories to tell.  On the other hand, if it looks like it was built with a hacksaw and stick welder, or if it is just another carbon copy custom off of an assembly line, simply look away and pay it no attention.  It doesn’t deserve it.  Or, have a little fun with them and ask “Do you use the same wax on your paint as you do your mustache?”

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2015, 11:00:45 AM »
Wow Raffii that was great thanks for posting.

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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2015, 12:47:23 PM »
One of my fav rants on the topic, second only to the epic Cafe Race Definition from the SOHC Dikshnury. Covers everything from Waxed mustaches, hipster bikes, steampunk, bobbers and cafe racers. Long read warning, but worthy IMO ;) I took the liberty to highlight some points for those just skimming.

Quote from: Scottie J link=https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=21231.0

Diversity is the key to originality.  But, what I don’t get is when some talentless know-it-all takes a beautifully restored bike, chops it all to hell, bolts on a few parts out of box, and then has the nerve to call it “a one-of-kind- custom”.  I also don’t get how anyone who is afraid to get their hands dirty can call themselves a biker.

 Today it seems that these hipsters don’t even want to ride their bikes to Sturgis.  They just load it up on a trailer, drive across the country, unload 10 miles outside of town, and then ride in on theirs “steeds” like they just rode 1000 miles.

Motorcycle culture is falling apart.  And to help take it down is the emergence of new sub-cultures.  Let’s take Steampunk for example; apparently so real that the auto-correct on Microsoft Word actually acknowledges it as a word.  What is “Steampunk” you ask?  To sum it up, it is taking whatever old junk you can find, bolting it to a bike, make it rusty, and VIOLA!  You have a Steampunk bike.  I think a more appropriate term would be SteamPUKE.    The only answer I can come up with is “because it is cool”, riders who only want attention because they have a unique bike.  You know these people, they guys who pull up to a stoplight and start revving their engine while looking around to see if anyone is watching.  Seriously dude.  I hope your throttle cable sticks next time and throws a rod through your block.

  No.  No, no, no, NO!  You cannot take a modern fuel injected sport bike and call it a Café Racer.  It is absolute sacrilegious.    A big part of the Café culture is to be constantly wrenching on and tuning your bike.  And guess what, while hooking your bike up to a laptop computer is sure convenient, you will never have a Café Racer in my eyes.  Secondly, where is the excitement in racing a modern appliance of a bike like it is old?  Do you not see the irony there, hipster?  No, of course you don’t, because you’re too busy trying to be a part of a fad than trying to revive the culture itself.  And lastly, just because you have a fat wallet with money to throw away, does NOT make you a garage builder.  In fact, I feel the exact opposite.  I think what makes a true garage builder is my approach: not having any money, build everything possible yourself, and making stuff work with what you have while still making it look right.  If you can make an old bike fast and make it look like a million bucks while forking out very little money, you are a successful garage builder.  Having an idea and throwing parts at any old bike does NOT.

So, the next time you see a custom bike, think to yourself; “Was this bike built with love, or was it built with money?” 
Scottie J  ~  Bulldog Kustoms Denver

Bullsh!t.  First, most of the hipsters are at least doing something with these old bikes.  A lot of these bikes were rotting away in sheds. 
They don't get their hands dirty?  There are a lot of young people on this board that I would call hipster.  I know a bunch that I meet at shows or bike nights or whatever.   They work on their bikes, themselves in most cases.  They are more likely to ride to the shows than the guys with nicely restored bikes.

The people trailering to Sturgus?  Usually Harley guys that want to bring the motor home instead of camp.

Who the hell is this guy to tell me what I can buid out of whatever and what I can call it.  I will build a 80's bike and call it a board racer if I feel like it.  You can't tell me what to do.

F%ck this dude.  Quit hating on the people you sell to.

Edit:  This guy messes with Royal Enfields and he is going to call someone out for not working on sh!t.  That is THE bike for the guy that does not know how to work on anything and does not want to go fast because they can't get out of their own way.    I know people make cool customs out of them, but the majority are sold to people who just want a turn-key cafe bike.
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Re: RE: Are you a Hipster
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2015, 01:15:26 PM »
Wow! I have to say if most people saw me they would think I was a "hipster" however just because I'm "younger" and dress different and like good coffee (ps Starbucks is not hipster in any way! It's the anti hipster coffee) doesn't mean I don't like or know about bikes! But.... I do make fun of them too!! "Hipsters" are very funny and sometimes/lots are over the top in lots of ways. Just saying. If you really want to know about them watch Portlandia that will make you laugh! 
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2015, 02:51:05 PM »
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Bullsh!t.  First, most of the hipsters are at least doing something with these old bikes.  A lot of these bikes were rotting away in sheds. 

I would have to agree with you there.  Better to see them get used than rot away.  This post was to help correct my cultural ignorance, and I just happened to find the youtubes videos funny.  People can dress however they want imo.  I like all sort of things and have lots of respect for young people.

People want to bash millenials for being too into themselves for being taking pictures of themselves and posting them up on social media.  What I say to that is they are just plain smart.  They have recognized the world has changed and are able to spot trends and take advantage of them.

Over the last couple weeks I have talked to 2 or 3 businesses who were struggling to grow and they hired a millennial to run thier Facebook and they started to grow their business again.  I don't think anyone here is anti-hipster or young person just a little jealous cause the whole world changed and we did not necessary ask for it.

Now as for flannel that was my thing. 


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