Topic: -Project Suzzie-

[toytuff]

Cleaned up the exhaust this morning. Left side is useable, right side not so much. Shame really.

Not sure what options I have other than new from the Netherlands. 

[Stev-o]

Acid?

[toytuff]

Acid?

Yup, part of frame and swing arm also. At least I think it is however the battery box is perfect. Go figure.

If I thought painting them flat black I would go with it however I think it's probably not feasible.

[nvr2old]

Other than the acid stains, those pipes are really nice.  I'd just sand blast them and paint them with VHT black paint.  They'd look just right on your bike.

[toytuff]

The right side has some heavier rust which should remove. The end cap aleady has a small hole. The left has a rusted area on the bottom which probably would blast thru.

It is an option however. Wes Cooley eh?

[grcamna2]

The right side has some heavier rust which should remove. The end cap aleady has a small hole. The left has a rusted area on the bottom which probably would blast thru.

It is an option however. Wes Cooley eh?

Braze & paint or ceramic;the 83' Suzuki that I owned had great looking Black-Chrome exhaust,it would be nice if you could find a black coating that is still somewhat transparent,etc. like that black coating Suzuki used over their factory silver chrome.. at least that's my guess of what they did..
I cleaned mine up Real strong w/ 'Never Dull wadding polish' numerous times and the 'black' was looking lighter and the chrome was more silver.., just a thought.

[toytuff]

Other than the acid stains, those pipes are really nice.  I'd just sand blast them and paint them with VHT black paint.  They'd look just right on your bike.

At this time it's the only option I have. Euro pipes seem to be different from mine.

[Stev-o]

Other than the acid stains, those pipes are really nice.  I'd just sand blast them and paint them with VHT black paint.  They'd look just right on your bike.

At this time it's the only option I have.

Ceramic coating is another option and would be superior to paint.

[grcamna2]

The PC shop down the street that I use has gloss black ceramic coating that I'm going to use for my headpipe,they have to heat their oven to over 500degrees+ and then the final curing is done on the bike.

[toytuff]

I contacted Jake this morning who has done a lot of powder coating for me in the past. I see they now offer Ceramic coating. (been a few years)

I'll run the exhaust up there and have him look at it to see what we can do. Like I said it has some rust thru the end cap and some rust on the left lower side that's almost through the muffler. This area would not hold but it's underneath and out of sight.

Worst case would be to blast around these areas then go for paint. I prefer Ceramic but it is what it is. 

http://www.azallcoat.com/services.htm

[toytuff]

Carburetors removed easily with the exception of the "pinhead" that thinks these screws should be tighten down to 15 foot pounds.

Normal screwdriver wouldn't budge them, all rounded from the wrong tool and the lower right screw on the right side needed needle nose vise grips to break free. Last shot I had versus drilling out. Sounded like the Navy out in the shop this morning. Damn, they were tight. Idiot.

I went to the hardware store and spent $2.50 on screws and some washers. They are 1 mm to long but Suzuki wants $2.95 each times 8. Forgetaboutit.

The good news is the fact the diaphragms are in good nick. Only one place has them, at a cost. 166 euro's each! No, it's not a mistype. Specific to the BS34SS carburetors.

[Stev-o]

Mikunis?

[grcamna2]

tt,
I have a spare set of 4) oem NOS Suzuki diaphram/slides for the carbs. if you need them.

[toytuff]

tt,
I have a spare set of 4) oem NOS Suzuki diaphram/slides for the carbs. if you need them.

Part number?

1350044230 superceded 1350044200

[grcamna2]

tt,
I'll look in the box in storage tomorrow and let you know.

[toytuff]

tt,
I'll look in the box in storage tomorrow and let you know.

Sounds good. Thank you.

[toytuff]

A little more motor cleaning this morning. Plenty more to clean once the swing arm is removed. Getting a box together for powder coat.



Had this center jack for years and thought I would try it out. It will go higher but that's good enough for me.

[nvr2old]

The right side has some heavier rust which should remove. The end cap aleady has a small hole. The left has a rusted area on the bottom which probably would blast thru.

It is an option however. Wes Cooley eh?

Depending on how much you want to spend on repair, refinish, or even another set of pipes, you might save money and time on your set if the rusted area was wire-wheeled or ground clean, then use a bit of JB Weld to fill in the holes.  I did that to a 400F collector last year that was worse then your pipes and it's holding up very well.  It's probably not a permanent repair, but it's an affordable/easy option.

Yeah, got a '79 GS1000S "Wes Cooley"..the only non-Honda I've ever owned.  Love this bike.

[toytuff]

Stunning!

I'm amazed how many different models Suzuki manufactured in the 70's and 80's.

Yes, I have options and found another set off a GS450 which I believe we're the same. Waiting on pictures, has surface rust although I don't know how bad.

I was ready to spring for a new set but it appears the center stand bumper and bracket was on the right side. Mine is on the left. I wouldn't think the euro model would be different. No confirmation of fitment in a reply from CML. Can't roll the dice.

[grcamna2]

tt,
I have a full set of NOS Suzuki carb. 'slides' w/ the same carburetors as you have Mikuni BS34SS but these slides are a different part# 13500-38310  or the old superseded #13500-49200. They are for the GS1100E

[toytuff]

Not surprised. I should buy them all from you. 

I emailed several vendors who specifically deal in Mikuni carburetors. (Canada never replied)

This was one response which was repeated by others.

 ~Unfortunately for you they slides are
very unique to that bike and while they are available for CMSNL they are
crazy expensive...

Thos same carbs were used on hundreds of models across the big 4 Japanese
manufacturers from singles to 4 cylinder bikes. But while they may look the
same on the outside the insides are VERY specific and wildly different so
parts from one BS34SS won't fit another, they are very model specific,
particularity the slides...

Chris

[grcamna2]

Not surprised. I should buy them all from you. 

I emailed several vendors who specifically deal in Mikuni carburetors. (Canada never replied)

This was one response which was repeated by others.

 ~Unfortunately for you they slides are
very unique to that bike and while they are available for CMSNL they are
crazy expensive...

Thos same carbs were used on hundreds of models across the big 4 Japanese
manufacturers from singles to 4 cylinder bikes. But while they may look the
same on the outside the insides are VERY specific and wildly different so
parts from one BS34SS won't fit another, they are very model specific,
particularity the slides...

Chris

Thanks for sharing your well researched info tt.

[toytuff]

Not surprised. I should buy them all from you. 

I emailed several vendors who specifically deal in Mikuni carburetors. (Canada never replied)

This was one response which was repeated by others.

 ~Unfortunately for you they slides are
very unique to that bike and while they are available for CMSNL they are
crazy expensive...

Thos same carbs were used on hundreds of models across the big 4 Japanese
manufacturers from singles to 4 cylinder bikes. But while they may look the
same on the outside the insides are VERY specific and wildly different so
parts from one BS34SS won't fit another, they are very model specific,
particularity the slides...

Chris

Thanks for sharing your well researched info Chris.

That's a copy and paste from an email I received. 

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

The right side has some heavier rust which should remove. The end cap aleady has a small hole. The left has a rusted area on the bottom which probably would blast thru.

It is an option however. Wes Cooley eh?

Depending on how much you want to spend on repair, refinish, or even another set of pipes, you might save money and time on your set if the rusted area was wire-wheeled or ground clean, then use a bit of JB Weld to fill in the holes.  I did that to a 400F collector last year that was worse then your pipes and it's holding up very well.  It's probably not a permanent repair, but it's an affordable/easy option.

Yeah, got a '79 GS1000S "Wes Cooley"..the only non-Honda I've ever owned.  Love this bike.

That's a sweet WC replica.

[RAFster122s]

At least you aren't riding it on a military base, it requires the bike to have been regularly inspected and stickered by them and you to have additional training, etc. for the priviledge to ride it there. Not stickered, then it is parked at the gate.
 bike is cleaning up well.
You know how to clean them up and make them look pretty again.

Nice looking new toys.

The Suzukis did always have pretty lines.