Topic: 1974 Rickman-Honda 750 CR replica/tribute

[754]

The only 1 5/8 source that comes to mind is HD wide glide. Not the best performance.
The other alternative, maybe a bit easier to find is the 38 mm Rickman fork.
 Meanwhile if you can find any AP calipers grab them , you need at least a pair. Early PM look close if you luck into some used ones.

[slikwilli420]

Airtech makes some nice stuff. I bought the full fairing, seat and inner fender for mine. I think I might cut down the full fairing to be more of a half fairing style, but that is yet to be determined. I personally like the steel tank with cover model of tank, which is what I have.

I didn't know they offered a inner metal tank with cover option. That does sound like a safer way to go for the street.

Do you happen to have a  link?  Classic motorcycle fiberglass in Australia is the only one I have found that makes covers, but they do have them in both long and short versions. The steel tank beneath is crude at best and the one I have is from the original kit. I have seen people who have done one-offs of them, but they were aluminum. Here is the original long steel version: http://s986.photobucket.com/user/seamussam/media/DSCF3983-1.jpg.html

And also I thinking ahead to ordering some aluminum plate.  Can you tell me the width of the following parts (if you have them):
Rear brake bracket: looks to be 5/16 or 3/8 - its either 1/4 or 3/8. The one I did for another guy doing a Rickman was 1/4, seen here: http://s225.photobucket.com/user/chuck_lambert78/media/Rickman-CR-underslung-bracket-C.jpg.html
Some that I have seen are a doubled up version like this: http://s5.photobucket.com/user/sickbouy/media/005_zpsed97b146.jpg.html
Mine on my kit is this style without the holes: http://lookoom.fr/HR2/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Honda_CR1060_Rickman-05.jpg
Front brake bracket (welded? bolted? to front fork)
Speedo / tach bracket: looks to be 1/4 or so - no clue
Taillight / License plate bracket: looks to be 3/16 or so. - no clue

Thank you!

I would also be happy to help make the parts for you as well, just let me know.

[754]

 What I found handy for aluminum fab was two get 6 in flat bar rather than plate,
if you can buy small quantity, always pieces on the net.
 2 feet each of 1/4 in. 3/8 in, and maybe 5/16   will get you thru most project stuff.. not sure about rear brake bracket, fitting on 6in.
 If you are adapting stuff like brake calipers on the front, you will need thicker but milling is also usually involved.
6061-T6 is what you want. You can cut most stuff out on a small bandsaw if 6 inches wide, but plate will get hung up, then you need a skilsaw.

[calj737]

Kos - you might have a quick look in your area for a Metal SuperMarkets. They sell steel and aluminum by the small piece at very reasonable rates. They usually can cut and/or shear material for you too to save you some effort.

For 6061 aluminum, you can cut it with a standard miter saw. Use some type of fluid while doing it to help the material from getting gummed in the blades. Cut slowly and you can whip right through it.

[Scott]

Hello, When it comes time to buy body work, I have used airtech and was very happy with them.  The guy is very easy to talk to and really wants to help.  He goes through it carefully with you on the phone and then gave me little discounts from their listed price.  I think he even sold me the pingle fuel taps for half price. I think I saved about $200
He also put me in contact with the screen manufacturer and organised it to come in the one delivery from air tech I haven't fitted the body work yet but it all looks good.
Scott

  Wow, thanks this is great news. I was hoping that since the total was gonna be ~$1500 they'd work with you a bit.  About how much was shipping (for my budget planning purposes.) You have a thread going on this build, I presume?  I will seek it out.  Buying of all this will have to wait until I sell another bike.  Actually, this one to be specific.  After I give the wife her cut to help pay for my shop, I should have enough to pull the trigger on these parts.

Shipping I'm not too sure as it was about 6 months ago and  I had one box sent straight to Australia and I had the other box sent to LA to come over with a couple of bikes in a shipping container.  I would be about 99.9 percent sure the dude who answers the phone at Air tech (Walter maybe) would be more than happy to have a chat and help you with your budget figures. I really think he is a very good bloke.
I got both the full fairing and the short fairing to give me options of having it look how it should look with the full fairing and then maybe using the half fairing with some handle bar risers and new bars for a touring Rickman that won't hurt my back.

I don't have a thread on my Rickman build but I do know that it is about the slowest build in history.
 

[kosmjon]

What I found handy for aluminum fab was two get 6 in flat bar rather than plate,
if you can buy small quantity, always pieces on the net.
 2 feet each of 1/4 in. 3/8 in, and maybe 5/16   will get you thru most project stuff.. not sure about rear brake bracket, fitting on 6in.
 If you are adapting stuff like brake calipers on the front, you will need thicker but milling is also usually involved.
6061-T6 is what you want. You can cut most stuff out on a small bandsaw if 6 inches wide, but plate will get hung up, then you need a skilsaw.

Good tips for sure - thanks.  Looks like closest Metal Supermarket near me is in Tampa (~4 hour drive).  I have a HF portable bandsaw that I built a stand for and it works pretty well but has a small throat area to fit pieces into.  I have a woodcutting Craftsman bandsaw that someday I want to build/find a speed reduction for.

[kosmjon]

Shipping I'm not too sure as it was about 6 months ago and  I had one box sent straight to Australia and I had the other box sent to LA to come over with a couple of bikes in a shipping container.  I would be about 99.9 percent sure the dude who answers the phone at Air tech (Walter maybe) would be more than happy to have a chat and help you with your budget figures. I really think he is a very good bloke.
I got both the full fairing and the short fairing to give me options of having it look how it should look with the full fairing and then maybe using the half fairing with some handle bar risers and new bars for a touring Rickman that won't hurt my back.  I don't have a thread on my Rickman build but I do know that it is about the slowest build in history.

Thanks for the additional info.  Sold another bike http://www.ebay.com/itm/292002689853 so I was able to call Airtech and talk to Walt and get my order going.  As you said Walt was a great guy to deal with and treated me right on the pricing.  It will take 2-3 weeks to build the parts and then 4 days shipping from CA.  Very excited!  Walt also gave from the link for the windscreen which I purchased separately.  My spokes and Borrani rims should arrive this Wednesday from Buchanans.  Job and life has been getting in the way of making actual progress other than buying parts.  Hopefully that will change soon.

[slikwilli420]

Glad to see you are still chipping away at some big pieces of this build. What are you doing about forks/brakes?

[kosmjon]

Glad to see you are still chipping away at some big pieces of this build. What are you doing about forks/brakes?

Yes indeed! Big and expensive!  I see a Lockheed caliper (from a Triumph) on ebay right now that might work on the front. Otherwise I'll buy a pair of AP Racing Lockheed-style calipers and a master cylinder for the rear from http://www.clubmanracing.com/discsystems.php  In the interest of time/money I may try and modify the stock Honda 35mm forks to work by welding on a front caliper mount and replacing the bottom studs with bolts.  Of course I know this is less than ideal and am open to suggestions.

[slikwilli420]

Stock triumph units are steel and very heavy so I would steer clear. The aftermarket AP units are what you need.

Welding forks has been done by others with varying degrees of success. Considering its a brake related component I wouldn't trust it. You can try a fork like the GL1000 which is closer to rickman size and is much easier to adapt a caliper to. See my AHRMA racer thread to see the finished product.

[754]

Metal Supermarket will probably ship for reasonable cost.
 Yeah the Triumph caliper would be real heavy, even an AP is not super light and its aluminum. They have the look, they are the right stuff.

[slikwilli420]

Going to need these. Only one in the auction but you need to start somewhere and this is a good price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/132075013638?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Too bad this guy wont ship to the US because here is the setup right here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lockheed-Front-Adj-Master-Cylinder-and-2-x-CP2696-2-pot-Calipers-New-/272526325121?clk_rvr_id=1161439472384&rmvSB=true#shpCntId

[754]

That first one, must have the brakeline go into centre of caliper ? Must be a tapped hole in the shadow.?

[slikwilli420]

That first one, must have the brakeline go into centre of caliper ? Must be a tapped hole in the shadow.?

What do you mean Frank? Like where the line goes in? The bleeder should be in the other side, but I suppose you could run the feed line and bleeder in either hole.

[754]

Not seeing the inlet, maybe looking at wrong side,  most have the inlet coming in same way as the bleeder.
Goid selker btw , bought from him before..he gets very cool stuff..

[slikwilli420]

Not seeing the inlet, maybe looking at wrong side,  most have the inlet coming in same way as the bleeder.
Goid selker btw , bought from him before..he gets very cool stuff..

In the picture in the listing, the inlet is where the bleeder is at. The bleeder actually goes in the hole on the back half of the caliper but the threads are the same so you could use either hole as feed or bleeder.

[MikeSimon]

This is probably not relevant and has already been dismissed in theory by the experts, but there are a huge variety of classic Honda forks available in different sizes for little money, which all have standard dual calipers and nice rotors: 35mm, 37mm, 39mm and 41mm.

[slikwilli420]

This is probably not relevant and has already been dismissed in theory by the experts, but there are a huge variety of classic Honda forks available in different sizes for little money, which all have standard dual calipers and nice rotors: 35mm, 37mm, 39mm and 41mm.

The forks aren't as big a deal but a proper rickman should have AP calipers.

[MikeSimon]

Here are a few more Rickman pictures. The Honda CR appeared for sale first at VMD in 2006 and last in 2014, so I thought. Closer look, however, shows the bike seen in 2013 was different and the 2006 and 2014 were different bikes also.

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

Okay, not a CB750 or a Honda, but a regularly tracked Rickman Kawasaki owned by Yoshi of The Garage Company.

[754]

Ooooihhhb 41 mm fatfork and Morris wheels.. Nice.
Got a side view ?

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

Ooooihhhb 41 mm fatfork and Morris wheels.. Nice.
Got a side view ?

I took the photo above at Yoshi's Corsa Moto Classico

The one below I found on the Interwebz

Here are more details:
1975 Rickman framed, 74 Kawasaki Z1 900 engine race/street monster.
74 Kawasaki Z1 900 engined race/street monster. APE big bored to 1065cc, factory close ratio transmission, racing alternator, total loss ignition with dyna coils. Keihin CR 39mm smoothbore carbs. Rickman racing forks and triple clamps, works performance shocks. Lockheed racing master brake cylinders to brembos, 4pot front, 2 pot rear. Cal-fab swingarm, aluminum gas tank, Earles oil cooler, lots of custom billet aluminum bits like rearsets, mounts, etc.
http://www.garagecompany.com/4racer.html

[MikeSimon]

The Rickman Kawa in my post is a nice large sideview

[Zunspec]

Hi kosmjon,

This just popped up on UK Ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/genuine-rickman-honda-cr750-/381976532467?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Posted for your inspiration, but if you want to buy it and keep it in my garage until you can collect I'm happy to oblige 

Good luck with your build.

Cheers  Geoff

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

You could use it as a reference tool!