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No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« on: March 12, 2017, 10:27:05 AM »
I was told when I bought the bike there was only a center stand on it. I now see there is no place to bolt on a kick stand to the frame. Did someone shave it off? What do you do in this case?

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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 10:38:58 AM »
Looks like they shaved it off from beneath the lower front motor mount bolt. You can purchase a new weld-on type.

I'm wondering why anyone would do that unless it was damaged. Maybe it was bent or something.

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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 10:40:43 AM »
On my parts bike out back, I think it's mounted closer to the rear wheel.

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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 10:44:41 AM »
cafee peapel cut all smart Things off the bikes ...to safe vaight..instead to Loose the vaight by doing some running or training...the bad thing is..the NeXT ovner vil miss the rear fender...kickstand,,frontlight.. saddel for 2 riding.and on and on..the list is long..its form over funktion..like modern art..
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 11:11:24 AM »
cafee peapel cut all smart Things off the bikes ...to safe vaight..instead to Loose the vaight by doing some running or training...the bad thing is..the NeXT ovner vil miss the rear fender...kickstand,,frontlight.. saddel for 2 riding.and on and on..the list is long..its form over funktion..like modern art..

Yes, but the kick stand? lol  I was thinking they wanted more clearance for leaning maybe? I'll have to get something welded in place. I'd like to park it without lifting 500 pounds every time. lol My son helped me get it on the center stand. It's a big bike. lol

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No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 11:24:51 AM »
Google "bolt-on  motorcycle kickstand"
Lots of options


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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 12:24:39 PM »
 Going on the center is more about the step down than the pick up, You can roll the back tire onto a piece of plywood at your shop. The F models have a different side stand location than the K's that may give you options. Sometimes the frame is rotted there and needs re-enforcement. I had a 400F once that needed repair there.
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 12:46:00 PM »
big bike??..try to lift a goldwing or cbx 1000. ;)
 its as easy as a 400 four. abssolut no problem.step on the shuehorn..at the side of the centerstand..use all your vaight. press it straight Down..andpull sleightly back on the bike.and the bike is liftes as easy..it just to hold the balance..the vaight is balanced up bu your self..but its a teknik vho must be learned..and the senterstand must be as factory..any mods..make it not  Work aut..
(but are the centerstand bend just sleigtly..all magig is gone..and its hell to pull the bike and lift it at same time)
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 04:42:43 PM »
I checked "Bolt on" didn't see anything that would be a direct fit that wasn't 100 or more. except this vintage chopper thing that was available on ebay for a short time,had a circular mount for frame.. Yes, to me, this is a big bike. Thanks for the tips to getting it up there alone.My back is long gone.Can't lift like I used to. For years I used to pick up/ deliver furniture, safes,appliances, pool tables. No more.Back is toast. I think what I want is a factory replacement style  78 cb750F ss factory  mount welded where it is supposed to be. Maybe someone had a junk  1978 CB750 SS (or identical) frame and can cut that area off for me, I could grind off the excess and weld it in place. I want it to look factory.One more hurdle in the quest for a nice ride.I do have a Harbor Freight welder and it would be fun to get it to look right and be right.

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 05:34:14 PM »
Canadian Noob / Saturday's Wrench CB350 had some type of bolt-on kickstand, if I remember correctly.


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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 05:36:06 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 05:50:00 PM »
 Any bolt on will still need welding, unless its firmly bolted to motor or peg mounts.
You can see the original reinforcement plate still in place, if you want to go back to stock get the section of frame with it to do it right.
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 05:58:01 PM »
I've got a kick stand that I will give you, if you choose. No bracket though. Pay for shipping, and it's yours.

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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2017, 02:29:19 AM »
I checked "Bolt on" didn't see anything that would be a direct fit that wasn't 100 or more. except this vintage chopper thing that was available on ebay for a short time,had a circular mount for frame.. Yes, to me, this is a big bike. Thanks for the tips to getting it up there alone.My back is long gone.Can't lift like I used to. For years I used to pick up/ deliver furniture, safes,appliances, pool tables. No more.Back is toast. I think what I want is a factory replacement style  78 cb750F ss factory  mount welded where it is supposed to be. Maybe someone had a junk  1978 CB750 SS (or identical) frame and can cut that area off for me, I could grind off the excess and weld it in place. I want it to look factory.One more hurdle in the quest for a nice ride.I do have a Harbor Freight welder and it would be fun to get it to look right and be right.
..im operated 2 times for discos colaps..and have one more vating..and cant lift anything either...but to set a cbx or 750 on senterstand..is only a matter of use your ovn vaight..to press the horn..dovn..it vill lift the bike,,and then you just need to pull it lightly backverd..its just magig how easy it vorks..
the problem is if somone have hacked in the stand,,remover the horn..or bend it...then the vaight/arm mekanism is gone..my 500 t vas a hell to get

up..and i sold it..thay bike is/vas as heavy as the cbx to move araund..and even slow as hell..

put a small handel on by the rear damper or a rail araund the seat helps to pull the bike..and make moving it araund..its helm me a lot moving my bikes
riding is not the problem..its the" still stand" pushing araund vho Hurts the bag..and ve dont vant to drop aur bikes..
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 07:05:09 AM »
My 750 is easy peasy to put on the center stand with the right technique.
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2017, 10:24:30 AM »
I've got a kick stand that I will give you, if you choose. No bracket though. Pay for shipping, and it's yours.

Thanks Dave! I see you're in Freemont Ca. Wondering condition it is in and what shipping would be on it?
I'm also looking for a piece of frame for a 78cb750F that had the mount on it if I could ever find someone willing to chop up a frame,, good luck there huh? lol
Maybe if one was in a wreck and useless or a hardtail operation that cut it out. Someone has shaved off the part I would bolt the kickstand to.
But at least if I had a stand, it would be a start. Someone mentioned bolt on kickstands. I didn't like what was available, especially cost.
This is what I'm after,,,http://hondachopper.yuku.com/topic/32703/Hot-Rod-Honda#.WM68nG8rKUk

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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 10:38:31 AM »
I have a '78k frame with that part on it that I would cut the frame tube section off for you.  Trouble is , I don't have experience of "F" frame to see if they are a match.  Maybe someone else can attest to the interchangeability of "F" to "K" kickstand mount to see if it's worth the postage and effort.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2017, 12:29:30 PM »
I have a '78k frame with that part on it that I would cut the frame tube section off for you.  Trouble is , I don't have experience of "F" frame to see if they are a match.  Maybe someone else can attest to the interchangeability of "F" to "K" kickstand mount to see if it's worth the postage and effort.

Hello KerryB.  If you post a pic of the mount and I like it , I'll pay you in advance to send it to me. I have a K out back
and the mount is toward the back tire just before the bend upward. I think it will work.
Just need a pic and a price and I'll send it Paypal. Thanks for replying.

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2017, 01:58:02 PM »
The pic shows a K, further back on the F, but you can probably mount the one in the pic and leavevyour gusset in place. Nice job on removing it properly..too bad you cant do that with rear peg triangles.
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Re: No spot on frame to bolt a kick stand. what next?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2017, 01:01:11 PM »
Here ya go, I took this off a '78k.  PM me your address and I'll send it to you.

For those who are watching, what would a fair price be for my time to dig this frame out of the attic and carefully cut the part off?

And just for shts and giggles, here is the abandoned hardtail project I took it from... I started it when I was young and foolish.  I'm too old to start riding a hardtail!
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 11:15:56 PM »
bugger you and your nancy boy growing old #$%*. build that hard tail.
I wouldn't but it does look good.  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 12:20:02 AM »
I always think its worth at least labour and up to shop rate, plus the piece , plus shipping.
Most folks wont cut it off that nicely, causing way more work or reduced strength.
Looks like 1/2 hr work, at least.

Side note, i cut my stand mount off to lower my bike, but wanted to be able to put it back..so I left about 1/8 or 3/16 of the heavy part on the frame reinforcement. That way..it goes back in the right spot, and enough meat to weld without burning through.
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 08:10:13 AM »
thanks 754.

scunny, in order to finish the project I'd have to start over.  The one you see is the prototype, there is no title and some of the important welds don't have slugs or sleeves inside.  But I was happy with the results as far as they got, it was fun to dream for awhile!
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 08:29:26 AM »
Here ya go, I took this off a '78k.  PM me your address and I'll send it to you.

For those who are watching, what would a fair price be for my time to dig this frame out of the attic and carefully cut the part off?

And just for shts and giggles, here is the abandoned hardtail project I took it from... I started it when I was young and foolish.  I'm too old to start riding a hardtail!

It looks better than I could possibly have imagined. Thank you so much. I'll take it!!

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2017, 09:02:27 AM »
The pic shows a K, further back on the F, but you can probably mount the one in the pic and leave your gusset in place. Nice job on removing it properly..too bad you cant do that with rear peg triangles.

I noticed I have an extra metal strip (gusset?) partially in the way , but I think you're saying it would be alright welded just to the left of it? Or right over part of it? I think the bike will still sit fine leaning on the stand with kickstand a bit forward. Shouldn't make much difference.There's no pipe on that side to rattle against. So the up position should be fine also.

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 09:05:51 AM »
I checked "Bolt on" didn't see anything that would be a direct fit that wasn't 100 or more. except this vintage chopper thing that was available on ebay for a short time,had a circular mount for frame.. Yes, to me, this is a big bike. Thanks for the tips to getting it up there alone.My back is long gone.Can't lift like I used to. For years I used to pick up/ deliver furniture, safes,appliances, pool tables. No more.Back is toast. I think what I want is a factory replacement style  78 cb750F ss factory  mount welded where it is supposed to be. Maybe someone had a junk  1978 CB750 SS (or identical) frame and can cut that area off for me, I could grind off the excess and weld it in place. I want it to look factory.One more hurdle in the quest for a nice ride.I do have a Harbor Freight welder and it would be fun to get it to look right and be right.
..im operated 2 times for discos colaps..and have one more vating..and cant lift anything either...but to set a cbx or 750 on senterstand..is only a matter of use your ovn vaight..to press the horn..dovn..it vill lift the bike,,and then you just need to pull it lightly backverd..its just magig how easy it vorks..
the problem is if somone have hacked in the stand,,remover the horn..or bend it...then the vaight/arm mekanism is gone..my 500 t vas a hell to get

up..and i sold it..thay bike is/vas as heavy as the cbx to move araund..and even slow as hell..

put a small handel on by the rear damper or a rail araund the seat helps to pull the bike..and make moving it araund..its helm me a lot moving my bikes
riding is not the problem..its the" still stand" pushing araund vho Hurts the bag..and ve dont vant to drop aur bikes..

Thank you Sir for the reply.

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2017, 09:16:33 AM »
If you are not planning on using stock K pipes, welding it on slightly ahead should not matter.
 Remember though that trying the actual77/78 sidestand will be too long, you will need a 69-76K type.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2017, 05:03:06 PM »
If you are not planning on using stock K pipes, welding it on slightly ahead should not matter.
 Remember though that trying the actual77/78 sidestand will be too long, you will need a 69-76K type.

Thank you 754!! Your knowledge is much appreciated I will find a K type up to 1976. Kerry, I sent the 20 for the mount.
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2017, 04:10:17 PM »
Here ya go, I took this off a '78k.  PM me your address and I'll send it to you.

For those who are watching, what would a fair price be for my time to dig this frame out of the attic and carefully cut the part off?

And just for shts and giggles, here is the abandoned hardtail project I took it from... I started it when I was young and foolish.  I'm too old to start riding a hardtail!


The part came today Kerry, and it is beautiful man.Nice surprise after a 13 hour day. I can fix that slight bend or have it done. Your money is on it's way yesterday.
I'll have to get a kickstand and see where and how much lean I want on the bike when standing so I can place it just right.

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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2018, 01:24:09 PM »
I'm curious how this project/mod turned out, as I'm dealing with a similar thing.  My only option is a bolt/clamp-on one, though. 

Does anyone know whose bolt-on kickstand this was?  Or where it was purchased or fabricated? 

Canadian Noob / Saturday's Wrench CB350 had some type of bolt-on kickstand, if I remember correctly.


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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2018, 03:57:26 PM »
Spent way too much time looking into this today so I wanted to share a few things for the next person.  I'm surprised how common it is. 

The kickstand pictured above that Saturday's Wrench is using has been discontinued because a number of people had them snap.

Steadfast Cycles used to carry those and they must have sold enough that it was worth it to design and fabricate a new one with much better construction and finish, which they sell on eBay for the (im)modest sum of $128.  (photo below)  I guess if you need it, you really need it.  It's 1 1/8" so will require a shim.

If you had the time and skill, it wouldn't be difficult to make your own by welding your own lug onto a 1" OD tube clamp https://www.ballisticfabrication.com/products/od-tube-clamp






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