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Offline Bousolle

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Break in
« on: April 07, 2017, 05:29:04 PM »
Hi
I whant  to  know ,  I change my piston rings, and my valves  so, are  I need to break  in ?

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Re: Break in
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 10:09:59 PM »
Yes, you need to seat the rings at least. Just be sure nothing breaks initially.
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Re: Break in
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 06:22:38 PM »
Ride it like you stole.  Doing it now. 
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Re: Break in
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2017, 03:22:21 AM »
What  you mean ?

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Re: Break in
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 08:55:34 AM »
I think he means you should ride it like you plan to ride it.  The rings need to seat, so you need to put it through its rev range and under some moderate load.  Don't pussyfoot about and keep it under X,000 RPM until 200 miles, etc.

Do change the oil after about 500 miles.

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Re: Break in
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 09:02:54 AM »
Ok ... I understand  thanks

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Re: Break in
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 03:29:34 AM »
I did like they describe here. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I have seen the difference of the hard break-in and the easy break in I did in the 80's. The site is right, the rings must be sealed asap, the first 50km. Mineral oil 10W-40. Do at least the Dyno break-in but on the road


I had just done a break-in. Warm up, slowly drive to the road where I twisted the throttle to 4000rpm with following heavy throttle deceleration, then 6000 rpm and deceleration. Maybe 2-4 of these. Then up to 8000 rpm on 4:th gear, throttle off and heavy deceleration, geared down to 3-2 and still heavy decelerations. My rear tire lost grip. I did these a few times the first 50km. Then oil and filter change. New mineral oil 10W-40 and gave it some more of the same medicine for the next 200km.  I have new pistons w rings and fresh bores.
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Re: Break in
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 11:19:16 AM »
I did like they describe here. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I have seen the difference of the hard break-in and the easy break in I did in the 80's. The site is right, the rings must be sealed asap, the first 50km. Mineral oil 10W-40. Do at least the Dyno break-in but on the road


I had just done a break-in. Warm up, slowly drive to the road where I twisted the throttle to 4000rpm with following heavy throttle deceleration, then 6000 rpm and deceleration. Maybe 2-4 of these. Then up to 8000 rpm on 4:th gear, throttle off and heavy deceleration, geared down to 3-2 and still heavy decelerations. My rear tire lost grip. I did these a few times the first 50km. Then oil and filter change. New mineral oil 10W-40 and gave it some more of the same medicine for the next 200km.  I have new pistons w rings and fresh bores.

Not a bad article.  There is no single accepted way to run in a motor, and this piece makes that disclaimer (and that the topic is somewhat controversial).
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold