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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2017, 01:58:24 PM »
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »
Not anywhere near the number of bikes built from 70 to 76. You only have 2 years...77-78 and only a portion of those were K bikes with 4-4 exhaust.
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2017, 03:17:16 PM »
At the risk of being expelled from this august site, I hereby state that the '77-'78 4 into 4 pipes were a vast improvement in appearance over the, by then, boring '69-76 units.

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2017, 03:38:06 PM »
Not anywhere near the number of bikes built from 70 to 76. You only have 2 years...77-78 and only a portion of those were K bikes with 4-4 exhaust.

Yes, and there is no market for them.

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 03:47:24 PM »
You stepped in it now BeemerBum! If you notice in my post I didn't mention anything about the appearance of the 77-78 4-4"s as to spare those that own them's feelings. Now I would like to add that like most other parts of 77-78's....the pipes look like sh!t ;D I have to add to Stevo's suggestion that you're banned and just you wait till Terry gets wind of this!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 05:02:52 PM »
"Never, for the sake of peace and quiet, deny your convictions" Dag Hammersjkld(sp). Am I banned for life or is there a probationary period during which I will try to get my mind right and learn to love the 69-76 pipes?

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 05:27:09 PM »
"Never, for the sake of peace and quiet, deny your convictions" Dag Hammersjkld(sp). Am I banned for life or is there a probationary period during which I will try to get my mind right and learn to love the 69-76 pipes?

You ate banned until you proclaim your love for ALL stock SOHC exhaust. 
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 05:34:54 PM »
They do pop up on ebay/craigslist from time to time...I saw a set on facebook once even...I think a lot of them rotted out since you can't really take them apart
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2017, 06:14:38 PM »
"Never, for the sake of peace and quiet, deny your convictions" Dag Hammersjkld(sp). Am I banned for life or is there a probationary period during which I will try to get my mind right and learn to love the 69-76 pipes?


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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2017, 06:30:27 PM »
They are in fact all good looking exhausts. Since the 4 pipes as viewed from the back are the very essence of these motorcycles, I think any Honda SOHC 4 cylinder with anything else such as 4 into 1 are substantially lacking in what makes them what they are and should be.

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2017, 06:45:39 PM »
 Oh oh- first you offended the 70-76 pipe guys now the 4 to 1 guys.  "NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU" !!   ;D ;D

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 05:15:29 AM »
Here for those that can not fit a nice HM300 or Lotus Root set of pipes since the rear bracket for the long bolt will not fit. K7 and later bikes.
They must use the later pipes, as this set without any dents, rust or other sh1t that a CB750 can live without ;)
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 08:36:21 AM »
Oh oh- first you offended the 70-76 pipe guys now the 4 to 1 guys.  "NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU" !!   ;D ;D


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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 08:55:56 AM »
Oh oh- first you offended the 70-76 pipe guys now the 4 to 1 guys.  "NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU" !!   ;D ;D


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BTW - did you hear the soup nazi got nailed for tax evasion?!
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2017, 09:22:23 AM »
Here for those that can not fit a nice HM300 or Lotus Root set of pipes since the rear bracket for the long bolt will not fit. K7 and later bikes.
They must use the later pipes, as this set without any dents, rust or other sh1t that a CB750 can live without ;)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Factory-Second-Reproduction-Exhaust-System-77-78-CB750-Four-405-Muffler-U154-/361982783032?vxp=mtr&hash=item5447daee38

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2017, 10:03:57 AM »
First off.....aside from looks.. I think the late pipes were really heavy, more than the early pipe.
That alone was a strike against them..I dont like the heavier parts, on the 77/78.
 
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2017, 01:28:18 PM »
Toward end if SOHC4 production years,  the regulatory agencies tired of brow beating the auto manufacturers into ever more silly mandates. (Because they could, primarily) So, to expand their purview, they turned their attention to motorcycle vehicles.  Beyond the smog mantra, their were already pretty stringent rules about noise emissions for autos, it was an easy rule to make regarding motor cycles.  Honda complied and made the 77 78 exhaust systems quieter.  Using more baffling and thicker steel also made the exhaust heavier, as well making them quieter.  This was certainly true for the 550 models.  Government agencies had quite a different take on"performance" than actual performance enthusiasts.  And it wasn't long thereafter that the nation speed limit was set for 55 mph, in order to reduce the loss of the taxpayer population.  But, I digress.
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2017, 03:15:17 PM »
Didn't the 750F come with 4 into 1 pipes? I'm doing a resto on one now and thought that was the case.

It came with twins on it.

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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2017, 03:20:56 PM »
Do the DOHC 750 exhausts fit the SOHC bikes?

I recall that I got a pretty good price for my 4-4 set of pipes for my 750 Limited.  I would imagine there are a fair number of DOHC pipes out there.
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2017, 04:38:49 PM »
Didn't the 750F come with 4 into 1 pipes? I'm doing a resto on one now and thought that was the case.

It came with twins on it.

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Yes....the 75-78 F (Supersport) models all had 4 to 1 pipes. All K's had 4 to 4's but there was a design change for 77-78 models.
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2017, 04:40:54 PM »
Do the DOHC 750 exhausts fit the SOHC bikes?

I recall that I got a pretty good price for my 4-4 set of pipes for my 750 Limited.  I would imagine there are a fair number of DOHC pipes out there.
From what I understand the DOHC pipes collect a bit lower so they won't work on SOHC's. The collector would be dragging on the ground.
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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2017, 11:04:35 AM »
I have 3out of 4 pipes for a 78 the 4th one was bent but the others are in pretty good shape. Message me if your interested. Michaellograsso87@gmail.com


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Re: Why are 1978 750 4-4 exhausts so hard to find in good shape?
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2017, 12:23:44 PM »
Here for those that can not fit a nice HM300 or Lotus Root set of pipes since the rear bracket for the long bolt will not fit. K7 and later bikes.
They must use the later pipes, as this set without any dents, rust or other sh1t that a CB750 can live without ;)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Factory-Second-Reproduction-Exhaust-System-77-78-CB750-Four-405-Muffler-U154-/361982783032?vxp=mtr&hash=item5447daee38

Put in basket quickly!! That E-bay guy is smoking bad #$%*. Over 1K for the set?https://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB750K-FOUR-1977-USA/part_308346/
Wow, that really cheap compared ith the earlier pipes 69-76. I checked DSS UK but did not find any there. OK US shop has stuff that UK does not.
That eBay guy will afford to smoke really good #$%* if he will sell those pipes for that price! ;)
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