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Yamahawk
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #25 on:
January 28, 2018, 05:51:20 AM »
How old is your current rear sprocket, and is it worn at all? You might find that purchasing a new sprocket for your bike and using your old one, cut down, may be an alternative if it is old already. Look for wear of your teeth.
Charlie
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #26 on:
January 28, 2018, 05:52:43 AM »
Sprocket is new
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #27 on:
January 28, 2018, 05:58:50 AM »
I can look at Pat's shop on Thursday, see if he has a junk one on an old CB550 wheel, if you want... that is, if nobody here has one to send you!
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DaveBarbier
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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January 28, 2018, 07:25:43 AM »
If you have the time that would be cool, thanks Charlie
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #29 on:
January 28, 2018, 07:55:57 AM »
I think I got one around somewhere...I will try to look today
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January 28, 2018, 09:58:01 AM »
Cool, thanks Sean
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Don R
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #31 on:
January 28, 2018, 11:40:18 AM »
My thought is, if the two wheels are lined up in a straight line does the rest of the bike care if other things aren't pointed straight ahead? Granted, the chain line should be pretty good and the frame/forks shouldn't be in a twist.
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DaveBarbier
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Reply #32 on:
January 28, 2018, 02:21:51 PM »
Looks like Cal's to the rescue again.
And Don, yeah I somewhat agree. But if the wheel's centerline is 2" to the right of the center of gravity of the bike, would that make things handle differently? No idea.
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #33 on:
January 28, 2018, 04:56:27 PM »
If the forks weren't at their center point, I'm betting you'd have an exciting wobble at some speeds.
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DaveBarbier
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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January 28, 2018, 06:36:23 PM »
Yeah I want excitement on my terms when it comes to motorcycle riding. Not a bike induced quick low side or speed wobble at 70mph.
That being said, forks are centered and front wheel is only off by a couple millimeters.
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #35 on:
January 28, 2018, 06:40:06 PM »
Dave, I was in and out of my shop several times today and still forgot to go digging for that sprocket...maybe get another chance later this week?
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January 29, 2018, 02:20:05 AM »
I posted in the wanted section and Cal's going to shoot one over for me. If it doesn't come since he's a lying bastard I'll let you know
Thanks for the effort, haha!
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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February 03, 2018, 12:35:25 PM »
Got the sprocket from Cal and yes I need to replace the studs with longer ones. How do these studs come out? I have a vise grip and the one I'm working on is spinning out but it seems to be hung up. It came out a few threads but now it's very tough and the pliers are beginning to spin on the stud. There isn't a head on the other side, right? Should just spin out after a few profanities?
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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February 03, 2018, 12:37:34 PM »
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #39 on:
February 03, 2018, 12:55:35 PM »
Ok never mind, I got a different one out. That first one is just stubborn. I'll keep at it.
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Reply #40 on:
February 03, 2018, 01:16:07 PM »
Jeepers creepers, this isn't fun any more.
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #41 on:
February 03, 2018, 01:47:29 PM »
Try one of these, as the stud looks a lot like an exhaust stud from my RD350 lol... And replace the studs with bolts! Make sure they are proper grade bolts, and not allens unless you have clearance for the head.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/KATONAH-TOOLS-1-2-Drive-Stud-Extractor-Puller-Remover-Mechanic-Tool-Truck-Car/160863034268?hash=item25742f1b9c:g:Y0YAAOSw3mpXN1zd
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The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
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DaveBarbier
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Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #42 on:
February 03, 2018, 02:04:53 PM »
I refuse to buy a tool to remove these, haha. I'll drill them out after welding on another nut. And just for clearance I'm going with studs.
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February 03, 2018, 02:52:48 PM »
I did have to get bolts, studs of the grade, length and pitch I need are hard to find.
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #44 on:
February 03, 2018, 03:50:24 PM »
Yeah, the bolts are readily available, studs maybe not... regular hardened hex bolts will give you the clearance a nut on a stud should.
Charlie
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The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke
All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28
Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?
DaveBarbier
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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February 04, 2018, 10:50:54 AM »
Holy mackerel got them out with just vise grips but man, that one was tough. I just used a dremel and made two flats for the vise grips to get a hold of. I also did a bit of research and a lot of times on studs, the threads that get inserted into the part are machined a hair larger to be more of a friction fit to reduce the possibility of removal when removing the nut. Interesting.
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #46 on:
February 05, 2018, 04:08:46 AM »
I have found Loctite used on many studs and bolts on rear sprockets. They don't like them coming loose
I have had to heat them to release the Loctite. Yours, however, don't seem to have any residue from Loctite in the threads.
Charlie
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The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke
All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28
Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?
Yamahawk
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Master
Posts: 1,677
1971 Honda CB750 Four K1
Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #47 on:
February 05, 2018, 06:21:06 AM »
heh he did.. and twisted the nut and stud off...
Charlie
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The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke
All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28
Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?
Yamahawk
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Master
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1971 Honda CB750 Four K1
Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #48 on:
February 05, 2018, 06:32:33 AM »
He might not have threaded the single nut on enough due to the mangling of the threads with the vice grips, but he did weld a nut on. Probably a good idea to try the double nut first, as that gives more stud to apply torque to.
Charlie
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The Only Thing Necessary for Evil to Triumph, is for Good Men to do Nothing.
Edmund Burke
All Things work together for good, for those who love God and are the Called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28
Though He slay me, Yet will I trust Him...
Job 13:15
will you trust Him...?
DaveBarbier
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Re: Wheel alignment (offset from each other) question
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Reply #49 on:
February 05, 2018, 09:09:41 AM »
Did double nut first and they stripped the threads on a stud. Then tried vise grips and got all out except one. Welded on a nut and after it cooled broke the stud. Tried vise grips again with making two flats and tightened the vise grips with both hands and used propane to heat the aluminum and it spun out but I had to use all my strength. This stud was more stubborn than most.
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