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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2022, 06:11:09 PM »
So, you guys don’t mention Ikons… any reason for that?
OTHER THAN, it being an Ohlins thread?
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2022, 07:30:54 PM »
Wow, I had completely forgotten about the Hagons I picked up last February! :o :o
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2022, 08:00:02 PM »
For what its worth I have 2 CB750s, a CB750K2 and a CB750K4. I have tried 3 aftermarket shocks:
1. Progressive rear shocks on the K4 - good predictable shocks. Limited adjustment
2. Hagon shocks with springs for a 200lb rider - good on the K4 and K2 - predictable dampening
3. Hyperpro shock (good support from Netherlands) currently on the K4 with spring for a 190lb rider - lots more adjustment (preload/dampening) than the Hagon but Hagon easier to fit and ride. Depends on how hard you ride. Rear tire size 130, 120 or 110.

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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2022, 08:32:43 PM »
Andy, do you recall the advertised spring rate for the Hagons? IIRC, the ones I got are 18kg, but it's hard to compare to the S&W/Progressive spring ratings, which have both an upper value and a lower value due to the progressive spring rate as well as a standard of pounds per inch instead of kg per centimeter(?).
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2022, 09:36:46 PM »
I ran progressive brand shocks on my cb500 for the last 5 years, they lasted maybe 3.5 years before I felt a difference in ride quality, i think they are rebuildable...or I can just get new bodies and use the same springs.... i usually weigh 220lb-200lb and ride about 6-8k a season. I bought them in pieces on amazon and put them together for the cheapest route. I would get them again but they are not my favorite looking shock, too plain looking. I remember enjoying them the most going between detroit and chicago, felt great at highway speeds.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2022, 07:51:40 AM »
Has anyone ever used TEC shocks?

https://www.tecbikepartsusa.com/HONDA_CB750F_CB750K_TEC_Alloy_Remote_Reservoir_S_p/j-sh-21-h2a.htm
You get what you pay for. $149 for possibly the most important feature for handling, braking and safety should not be a bargain hunted.

That's where my mind was at initially but I know sometimes you can get a good deal for quality product, so that's why I was seeing if anyone had any experience with them. I personally ended up just getting YSS RG Topline Customs this afternoon. I had to go back and forth with one of their reps to be able to make sure he understood that I needed a clevis bottom. I spent WAY, and I mean WAYYY, more money than I ever intended or would've liked to, but as you said "possibly the most important feature..." so at the end of the day I can rest assured I have one of the better shocks for this bike.
I've seen photos of a TEC shock that the reservoir cartridge broke off, (that alone is concerning) and revealing that there was NO passage between the cartridge and the shock, It's purely there to LOOK like a performance shock, but has NO function to it at All!   
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2022, 07:58:30 AM »
I have Hagon on my K3 and Z1. They pretty much put together whatever you want. Good company
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2022, 07:15:40 PM »
I have Hagon on my K3 and Z1. They pretty much put together whatever you want. Good company

HAGONs are nice vintage looking performing but for the cost...man...they are like north of 500 over 600?
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2022, 06:54:08 AM »
Andy, do you recall the advertised spring rate for the Hagons? IIRC, the ones I got are 18kg, but it's hard to compare to the S&W/Progressive spring ratings, which have both an upper value and a lower value due to the progressive spring rate as well as a standard of pounds per inch instead of kg per centimeter(?).

Sorry I dont recall and i checked my emails but unable to find the original order. What I do know is that David Quinn (no longer selling Hagons) swapped the spring for me as it was too firm. I am a 200lbs, 6`4 rider and the spring I have on now is still firm but suits the 750K4 very well. K4 is used for touring including sustained highway riding sometimes. No issues in twisties and better than the Progressives I had on previously.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2022, 07:08:21 PM »
So, you guys don’t mention Ikons… any reason for that?
OTHER THAN, it being an Ohlins thread?
https://revivalcycles.com/products/ikon-rear-shock-absorbers-7610-1296

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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2022, 07:26:28 PM »
I purchased Hagon shocks a few times and noticed their 'Quad Rate' springs are just too stiff,which doesn't allow the shock to work through it's complete stroke.I installed a set of regular dual/rate springs and the shocks perform as they should.I hope we get a USA supplier for Hagon shocks as Dave Quiin has been out of business for 5 years now.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2022, 08:42:04 PM »
Wow, the Ikons have jumped in price. I paid $325 about 10 years ago. Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2022, 01:46:05 AM »
Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2022, 08:01:46 AM »
Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?

Oh they definitely have. I just paid over 1k for my YSS's.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2022, 11:27:53 AM »
Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?

Oh they definitely have. I just paid over 1k for my YSS's.
Yikes!!! For 2 shocks???.............
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

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1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
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New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2022, 12:53:44 PM »
Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?

Oh they definitely have. I just paid over 1k for my YSS's.

im getting panic attacks thinking about spending 680 for those Öhlins.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2022, 02:42:33 PM »
Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?

Oh they definitely have. I just paid over 1k for my YSS's.
Yikes!!! For 2 shocks???.............

Its starting the make the YSS, Wilbers and Ohlins look reasonable.
They haven't gone up yet?

Oh they definitely have. I just paid over 1k for my YSS's.

im getting panic attacks thinking about spending 680 for those Öhlins.

I didn't mean to say "over". I paid $991.46 after the euro-usd conversion. Like I said, much more than I was comfortable with, but I wanted a high quality shock.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2023, 12:10:19 PM »
thread revival..

Regarding the Fox RC1 podium shocks, did anyone come up with a spring option that works?  8" Racetech: SRSP4820013R.  That's 1.3kg/mm. The stock 1.8kg/mm rate is way too stiff even after a revalve.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2023, 01:59:18 AM »
What shocks should I try for the sidecar rig? 
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2023, 12:56:50 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144742727429?

these should work for us, right?
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2023, 04:08:02 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144742727429?

these should work for us, right?

Depends on the clevis length (side to side) and what size those threads are.

Also something to think about is the length. I didn't read mention of their length anywhere in the listing.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750 or Fox Podium RC1
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2023, 12:12:12 PM »
So, to conclude this thread regarding the Fox Podium RC1 shock option I am finally satisfied. Devin at cognito moto continued his awesome support even a couple years after I bought them and was able to put me in touch with the right person at Fox who was also committed to helping me out. Scott at Fox found the following springs which make all the difference:

8” 80lb/in (1.43kg/mm)

Fox PN: 033-24-080-6

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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750 or Fox Podium RC1
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2023, 01:14:25 PM »
I like Fox shocks.
I had an 86' VFR with a Fox Twin Clicker monoshock;I loved the 8 position rebound damping adjuster knob which I was able to adjust while sitting/riding on the bike.
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Re: Ohlins shocks for CB750 or Fox Podium RC1
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2023, 02:27:26 PM »
So, to conclude this thread regarding the Fox Podium RC1 shock option I am finally satisfied. Devin at cognito moto continued his awesome support even a couple years after I bought them and was able to put me in touch with the right person at Fox who was also committed to helping me out. Scott at Fox found the following springs which make all the difference:

8” 80lb/in (1.43kg/mm)

Fox PN: 033-24-080-6

Cognito Moto and Fox..Two great companies we are lucky to have available to us!!

That's awesome to hear! I've got nothing but good things to say about CognitoMoto. Those shocks look beautiful on that bike, well done!
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