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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2022, 10:56:21 PM »
I built an engine for a 1985 FZ 750 using parts from FZ, FZR and YZF. Result was +40hp and loads of fun  ;D

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2022, 11:30:04 PM »
I built an engine for a 1985 FZ 750 using parts from FZ, FZR and YZF. Result was +40hp and loads of fun  ;D

Was it a street bike ?
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2022, 11:53:31 PM »
I built an engine for a 1985 FZ 750 using parts from FZ, FZR and YZF. Result was +40hp and loads of fun  ;D

Was it a street bike ?
Racebike but the engine is fully streetable.

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #78 on: September 13, 2022, 12:05:19 AM »
It's "simply" a combination of stock parts that work well together. I also have a plan using R1 parts in the mix.

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2022, 08:02:53 AM »
   Not being familiar with this bike/engine, my main priority was just to get it back to stock and running condition. I did look over the many options available to do but in the end chose the least expensive route, (this is real money pit territory) a lack of good parts availability was the main driver.
   If another one were to come along (highly doubt it) I'd definitely do either the 1000 swap with the 750's transmission or the 1000 topend on the 750 bottom end. More than likely the topend swap and keeping the 750 head and fzr cams. Then front and rear suspension mods, there's all sorts of choices to be made but only so much money. It's also easier to sell and maintain in stock trim. Much like the sohc4 bikes, whom ever owns it will more than likely have to be able to maintain it as well,  the more mods, the harder it is to maintain for most potential buyers.
   There's still a lot of little things that need to be done.
   
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2022, 08:57:21 AM »
Seats done, finally...
Now waiting on new ignition, seat and gas tank locks.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2022, 12:37:09 PM »
Very nice!

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2022, 02:16:07 PM »
Believe it or not, I did that myself Saturday afternoon. All told I spent like $16 total. Spent some time looking over YouTube tutorials and decided to give it a try. The damn strap was the hardest part.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2022, 08:03:24 PM »
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Believe it or not, I did that myself Saturday afternoon.

I did the seat on my CBX. I found an essential tool was a hot air gun.

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2022, 08:46:54 PM »
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Believe it or not, I did that myself Saturday afternoon.

I did the seat on my CBX. I found an essential tool was a hot air gun.




Is that a 1980 CBX ?
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2022, 09:04:39 PM »
   I used a hair dryer on high, the plastic seat pan is what makes it so easy, just heat stretch and staple. Then repeat that process about 100 times.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #86 on: November 23, 2022, 07:59:24 PM »
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Is that a 1980 CBX?

Manufactured 1978, 1979 model year.

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just heat stretch and staple. Then repeat that process about 100 times.

So true! I also did some staple removing and re-stapling!
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #87 on: January 09, 2023, 09:31:05 PM »
   Well, the centerstand gods were looking down on me last week. I finally found one on extortion bay, you will not believe, nor will I tell you what I paid for this, but now I have one. We're almost there, having a complete '85 fz.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2023, 09:33:03 PM »
A centerstand makes all the difference  8) the one you have in the pic came with spring and hardware which is a plus.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2023, 10:09:26 PM »
   Who knew finding a centerstand would be this difficult, this is only the 2nd one I've seen listed in over a year. It'll make doing a lot of things easier. Try changing your rear tire or doing sprockets and a chain without one. I made a stand just so I could work on it in an upright position. I've #$%*ed about the cost of parts all during this, but this one takes the cake. I complain about the price of everything these days, why stop now.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #90 on: January 09, 2023, 11:06:06 PM »
   Who knew finding a centerstand would be this difficult, this is only the 2nd one I've seen listed in over a year. It'll make doing a lot of things easier. Try changing your rear tire or doing sprockets and a chain without one. I made a stand just so I could work on it in an upright position. I've #$%*ed about the cost of parts all during this, but this one takes the cake. I complain about the price of everything these days, why stop now.

I understand what you're saying about sellers raising the price of something way too much;a lot of them got it for a very low price then turn around and flip it for big $.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #91 on: January 10, 2023, 11:02:12 AM »
Mark,do you plan on keeping it for a while before you flip it ?
I would have a tough time selling that model Yamaha if I owned it.  8) 8)
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #92 on: January 10, 2023, 01:44:28 PM »
   I always like to ride them a bit, gives me an opportunity to check it over and enjoy it. There are several interested parties already. Now it's more about price, the bike market for desirable older bikes is kinda flatting out, but it's still up there. I guess I find out in a few more months if it's desirable or not. If not, I've got no problems hanging on to it for now.
 
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2023, 04:13:43 PM »
Great motor, my friend has an 87 Fazer 750 these motors love to rev and are so smooth.

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2023, 12:51:05 PM »
   Ok, long(ish) term update, it's a great overall ride. Once together it started and stopped just fine, until it didn't.
   I'm riding along one day and doesn't the damn thing foul a plug, damn.... I get it home, pull the plugs, (no small feat either) number 3 is the culprit, but all of them look black as night. I knew it was a little rich (k&n stage 1 kit) but not that much. Anyways, I buy another set of plugs, pull the tank, airbox and carbs so I can reset the mixture screws from 3.5 out back to 3 turns. This is not what k&n suggests, it suggests lowering the needles first then the mixture setting, but I'm not that invested in pulling the rack apart yet. New plugs in leaner mixture set and we're off, it helps but again it returns about week later, yet now I've got an off idle and a below 4k stumble that I now know is a rich condition, above 4k it goes great. So now, I reset the needles. And at first again it goes like it should,  until it doesn't.
   So outta frustration I decide to set it all back to stock, I needed a baseline to start from. The original rack that came with the bike was essentially useless as all the slides were hopelessly stuck, but the bottom end components, floats, needles  and seats and brass were pretty good. So here we go again, pulling the carburetors (3rd time) as well as pulling apart the entire rack to reset to stock configurations.
   First thing I had a really hard time figuring out was float heights, the books goes by a clear tube reading, which is fine but its nice to have a hard float height to use as a reference. I can't find anything except for what Factory Pro uses in its jet kit (15mm) but that's with 122.5 mains, so when I measured the floats upon disassembly they were at 8mm, big difference either way. I reset to 10mm figuring if I'm going make changes, it'll be incrementally, one thing at a time. With that out of the way it's time to change out the 112 mains back to stock 105's for 1&4, 102's for 2&3, then back to stock needles and springs and mixture screws to 2.5 out. Reinstalled everything started and did a quick re sync and we're off, again.
   Now it runs more normal(ish), ya gotta choke it now to start it when cold, before I didn't need to use the choke at all (a sign it was rich) I rode it this way for a week, plugs finally starting to look normal. Ok, so its time to start making changes one at a time, I replaced the stock needles and springs with the k&n's 1st, left the mains stock. Only real change I felt was and its minor, is its got a little more giddy up down low, but it's not fouling plugs, so we're good. So again, I rode it this way for several rides looking to see if it would stay or go south, it stayed, so we're good to move on.
   Next change was larger mains, rather than install the 112's I decided to go with the 108's and see what that brings, if it works we'll go from there. Well, it runs so damned well with the 108's that I've left it that way. I can change to 112 mains w/o pulling the rack so if I choose to do so, I won't need to pull the entire rack. She starts at the touch of the starter every time, you can drag it down to 2k in every gear and twist the throttle and off she goes. I clear tubed the floats and we're good there as well. In hindsight I'm reasonably sure the real culprit was the float height, and if I decide to install the 112's I'm pretty sure it'll run fine. Sounds like a good time to sell.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2023, 06:58:55 PM »
Mark,what will you be $elling it for ?
Very nice machine.
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2023, 07:48:33 PM »
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2023, 07:51:53 PM »
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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2023, 12:49:21 AM »
I'm currently gathering parts to upgrade the FZ engine I mentioned earlier.
961cc and 12800 redline, so 50cc's and 1200 rpm more compared to the current version.
Dyno results to follow once I get there.

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Re: 85 fz 750
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2023, 06:12:24 AM »
   That'll be interesting, give a rundown of what was done when time allows..
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