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1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« on: August 18, 2022, 05:20:23 AM »
I just started a new project and it is a 1971 K1 CB750.  It has about 20K on the odometer and has not been on the road since about 1983.  This will probably be my last CB750 project because it is getting so expensive to restore one.  I have two others in the garage that I did over the past few years.   I took it all apart and I will post some pictures of the project occasionally.  I just finished painting the bike and I did it along with two GL1000s that I am also working on.  See these pictures below but the parts actually look much better than these pictures.



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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2022, 05:35:49 AM »
Nice. Did you use the same red on the gl parts?
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1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2022, 05:46:58 AM »
Yes, same paint, but I used a different base on the CB750 parts.  These have a base color called stellar silver which is highly reflective with lots of metal flakes in it. I used a silver primer on the GL1000 parts for the base color.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2022, 07:59:54 AM »
We'd all love to see more photos and heap praise on you for doing the work!!
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2022, 09:29:06 AM »
thats the sexiest trailer bed ive ever seen.
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2022, 02:09:17 PM »
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2022, 05:45:15 PM »
Fantastic paintwork!  Looking forward to updates and you progress.  Thanks for sharing.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2022, 08:12:04 PM »
Great work on the paint!
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2022, 10:49:43 AM »
Very nice paint work!!

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2022, 04:39:29 PM »
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2022, 05:03:10 PM »
Thanks for your comments and I hope you enjoy this short update.  I started working on the the engine.  It is in pretty good shape, but I did find one bent shifting fork.  I had a spare that came from a K3 engine, so no big deal.  I also installed new cryo treated primary chains from Cycle-X.  You probably noticed that the pictures show I loaded the lower half instead of the upper half.  I know, the manual says load the upper half first, but I think this way is easier.  I like being able to fully test the transmission before closing the case.  You might also notice I found a good use for packing peanuts.  This is a simple way to hold the rods in the middle of the hole.
I cleaned the case with a high pressure sprayer and then used an ultrasonic cleaner for about 30 minutes per side.  Then I painted them.  As you can see I got the shifter parts installed too.  Here are some pictures of the progress.



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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2022, 05:22:34 PM »
Nice.
That ultrasonic cleaner must be big to fit the case halves in it. What solution do you use for cleaner?
Stu
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2022, 05:35:22 PM »
It holds about 6 gallons, so I have to turn the case four times to get it all clean.  I mix about two cups of KrudKuttter Concentrated cleaner and degreaser in with clean water. 

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2022, 07:40:07 AM »
It seems to be some what of a split consensus here and it also seems to be done both ways from the factory, but I was always thought to stagger my chains.

Has there been any definitive conclusions on this???

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2022, 07:54:38 AM »
Sorry, I don't understand what "stagger my chains" means.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2022, 08:20:23 AM »
Was in reference to the primary chains.

You can either have them how you got em, lined up, or if you shift one chain one link, they would then be staggered.

I’m not saying, one is right the other is wrong.

Your photo prompted the thought in my head if there had been any conclusive determination one was vs the other.

Mine was staggered from the factory, it went back staggered, but I was also always thought it’s best to stagger them.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2022, 09:30:25 AM »
Oh, I see what you are referring to, but take another look at mine and compare it to yours.  Mine is staggered too, but I did not plan this.  Find a link where the bars on on the inside.  Now compare it to the same link on the other chain and you will see the bars are on the outside.  Seems like staggering would be better, but I have no idea.  In any case, I don't plan on opening the case again unless this is a serious mistake :).

I know Hondaman says they should stay on the same side as they came out, if you reuse them.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2022, 09:40:41 AM »
Ahhh you are correct!

I didn’t have my glasses on haha.

And even if they weren’t, I don’t think it would warrant opening the cases to adjust.

It seems they came from the factory both ways.

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2022, 02:53:51 PM »
The top end going back together.  I used standard gaskets from 4into1 and I always use copper coat on the head gasket.  It has always worked great for me, so I continue this practice.  The cam chain is a new heavy duty Tsubaki along with new tensioners.
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2022, 03:03:08 PM »
Looking great!
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2022, 08:20:16 PM »
Wait!
Did you already bolt the head down?
You need thicker O-rings in the oil ports of the head gasket, or it WILL leak oil, very soon.
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2022, 03:43:28 AM »
I already bolted it down but the picture is deceiving.   The head gasket is bowed a bit and makes it look like they are too short.  I think they will be ok,  but thanks for the offer.   I had another gasket set like the one I used so I decided to measure the orings that I used.  They were the correct size.
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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2022, 12:23:55 PM »
I wanted to do a quick update on my advance unit since this seems to be a problem for many people.  After I cleaned it up and inspected the unit, I determined the springs were not usable.  Many times you can just remove a loop and use them but this set was in bad shape so I went to the hardware store and bought an assortment of springs for about $5.00.  In this assortment, I found a spring that was pretty close to the original.  After I cut two pieces down to the right size and spent an hour getting them exactly alike, I installed them to see how they worked.  Just about the same tension as an original unit, but I will have to test the advance curve to see if it is close enough.  I have the AD125-01 unit.  Also, have you noticed that many of the advance units have a bit of slop in the locking pin hole.  To further explain... after you install the unit you can often wiggle the entire unit due to the slop in this pin/hole.  I placed a piece of heat shrink tubing around the pin to remove the slop.


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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2022, 01:25:30 PM »
I already bolted it down but the picture is deceiving.   The head gasket is bowed a bit and makes it look like they are too short.  I think they will be ok,  but thanks for the offer.   I had another gasket set like the one I used so I decided to measure the orings that I used.  They were the correct size.

What were the measurements?

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Re: 1971 CB750 Project by Cedric
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2022, 05:04:16 PM »
ID: 11, HT: 2.5, OD: 16
I might start the engine and run it for 30 minutes before I put it in the frame to make sure nothing leaks.
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