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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2024, 04:06:50 PM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2024, 02:11:26 AM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

Thanks.  There are many gravel roads in Blueridge mountains to explore.  The gravel never stopped me on any bike but the go anywhere of the KLR appeals to me. 
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2024, 05:28:50 PM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?

I bought a used 2022. Yes its a parallel-twin.

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2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2024, 05:38:50 PM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

Thanks.  There are many gravel roads in Blueridge mountains to explore.  The gravel never stopped me on any bike but the go anywhere of the KLR appeals to me.

Totally agree you can do gravel/dirt roads  on any bike

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1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2024, 07:38:48 PM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?

I bought a used 2022. Yes its a parallel-twin.

Oh, I Like that bike !  Looks like a wonderful 700cc Adventure bike.  :)
Does this engine have the 270? degree crankshaft ?
What does a 2022' in such nice condition go $ for;what would I need to spend,roughly ?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2024, 07:42:15 PM by grcamna2 »
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2024, 07:08:13 AM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?

I bought a used 2022. Yes its a parallel-twin.

Oh, I Like that bike !  Looks like a wonderful 700cc Adventure bike.  :)
Does this engine have the 270? degree crankshaft ?
What does a 2022' in such nice condition go $ for;what would I need to spend,roughly ?

I was curious too....about $8K...

https://www.cycletrader.com/2022-Yamaha-Tenere-700/motorcycles-for-sale?make=Yamaha%7C2321194&model=TENERE%7C764982403&trim=700%7C73241&year=2022
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2024, 10:32:12 AM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?

I bought a used 2022. Yes its a parallel-twin.

Oh, I Like that bike !  Looks like a wonderful 700cc Adventure bike.  :)
Does this engine have the 270? degree crankshaft ?
What does a 2022' in such nice condition go $ for;what would I need to spend,roughly ?

Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2024, 02:05:44 PM »


Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.

Did you ever experience high idle when hot on the KLR?  It's annoying more than anything else no show stopper.  I will have to deal with it eventually but I hope that piling miles on her will fix the problem.
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2024, 02:28:05 PM »


Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.

Did you ever experience high idle when hot on the KLR?  It's annoying more than anything else no show stopper.  I will have to deal with it eventually but I hope that piling miles on her will fix the problem.

Yes….. There is a big knurled knob on the carb for idle adjust. Give it a good cleaning and lubrication. Took me a while to get it “just right”.

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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2024, 08:45:28 AM »


Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.

Did you ever experience high idle when hot on the KLR?  It's annoying more than anything else no show stopper.  I will have to deal with it eventually but I hope that piling miles on her will fix the problem.

Yes….. There is a big knurled knob on the carb for idle adjust. Give it a good cleaning and lubrication. Took me a while to get it “just right”.

Thank you.
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2024, 08:58:29 AM »


Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.

Did you ever experience high idle when hot on the KLR?  It's annoying more than anything else no show stopper.  I will have to deal with it eventually but I hope that piling miles on her will fix the problem.

Yes….. There is a big knurled knob on the carb for idle adjust. Give it a good cleaning and lubrication. Took me a while to get it “just right”.

Thank you.

Have fun with it. Great bike!

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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2024, 11:21:44 AM »
Good buy!! If its anything like the XR650 I had you will love it! I traded in the XR650 for a Tenere T700 and now can easily go on the highway as well as the trails.

What year T700 did you purchase;is the T700 a twin ?

I bought a used 2022. Yes its a parallel-twin.

Oh, I Like that bike !  Looks like a wonderful 700cc Adventure bike.  :)
Does this engine have the 270? degree crankshaft ?
What does a 2022' in such nice condition go $ for;what would I need to spend,roughly ?

Go for a KLR650! Lots around with low mileage and they are indestructible!  Anything after ‘08 has the newer body style…… My wife loved hers, with the lower Corbin seat.

Yes,it's a very nice bike and reasonable.
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2024, 01:19:01 PM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2024, 07:49:43 AM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

Nice looking bike, John, but looks like a Honda!
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2024, 10:21:01 AM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

Nice looking bike, John, but looks like a Honda!

That does look nice  8) ;) 1986' XL600R
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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2024, 10:54:48 AM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

Nice looking bike, John, but looks like a Honda!

Alternative to the KLR650.

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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2024, 04:16:34 AM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

I keep looking at those but the Kawi was a long time dream.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2024, 05:08:20 AM »
This is the Honda “alternate” I’ve always had a hankering for…….

I keep looking at those but the Kawi was a long time dream.

You won’t be disappointed. We sold our two after about 18 years and I still miss mine.

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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2024, 07:32:54 AM »
I remember ofreen having one for a while. 

I had a 2002.  It was a great bike.  Great range because of the 6 gallon tank and 55+ mpg.  Great commuter bike due to torquey and smooth motor, nimble handling and tall seat height giving good visibility.  In spite of the "Kan't Leave Road" mockery by the XL and DR riders, it is a good adventure bike.

I made my own tools and did the doohickey replacement on it.  The original was still intact, but it was a flimsy thing.  I believe most of the problem with the original design was that people would overtighten the bolt when doing the adjustment, like some guys will do with the cam chain tensioner bolt on a CB750.  There is a company called Happy Trails here locally that used to have a shop (I think they are just internet these days).  They would have "doohickey days" where customers could come in with their bikes to swap them out.  I went to a couple of them and saw 1 or 2 broken ones.  The original welded doohickeys were thin and soft, so if the bolt was overtightened they were gouged and cracked.  Happy Trails sold a lot of $100 replacement kits that included a torsion spring that replaced the factory coil spring.  The torsion spring was a little controversial.  There were two schools of thought about where to drill the hole for the torsion spring leg.  The location specified by the included instructions put too much tension on the chain in my opinion.  I installed one because all the cool kids said you needed it.  But you could hear a loud howl when running down the road, so I put the factory spring back in and all went back to normal.  I probably could have just drilled another hole in the alternate position that put less tension on it, but I don't think there is anything wrong with the factory spring.

Kawasaki finally updated the doohickey, in 2008 I believe, that I think solved the problem. Happy Trails still recommended swapping the new ones out, but I think they just missed the money they made from feeding doohickey paranoia.

Handling in the twisties is great.  Some people don't think so.  The long travel suspension means you have to be smooth with throttle and brake inputs, which you need to do to ride any bike well, but hamhanded riding will have a KLR pitching around.  The stock exhaust is ridiculously heavy, but all the aftermarket ones I've seen are too noisy.  The stock rear shock is poor.  But over all a great bike that is even a decent highway tourer.
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Re: Forgive me, Honda, for I have sinned.
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2024, 07:40:45 AM »
I remember ofreen having one for a while. 

I made my own tools and did the doohickey replacement on it.

Hey Greg...what is this "doohickey" you are referring to?!

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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2024, 10:20:55 AM »
Hey Greg...what is this "doohickey" you are referring to?!

The KLR has a chain driven counter-balancer.  The doohickey is a component of the chain tensioner that fixes the tensioner in place when a bolt is snugged down.  I don't know if I ever have known the factory name for the part.
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2024, 12:50:54 PM »
Thank you, i was wondeing too. Honda used a similar setup in the 400 & 450 twins 78 and up.

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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2024, 02:40:48 PM »
Thank you, i was wondeing too. Honda used a similar setup in the 400 & 450 twins 78 and up.

The Honda Scooters used that type adjuster also
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