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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #75 on: August 01, 2009, 10:29:55 AM »
some racers here use these:

http://www.ammortizzatori.net/

ultralight, well damped, adjustable height, they will fit it with any spring rate you want, 200 euros. pretty decent deal me thinks.

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Where can I get these shocks in the us?  looking to replace my red wing shocks I have now.

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #76 on: August 01, 2009, 11:03:06 AM »
As long as it's not a motor oil thread, they are all worth revivng every nowand then... ;-)

the guy from amortizzatore does read english mails, not so sure about his oral skills

He sells only directly,

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2009, 11:48:52 AM »
As long as it's not a motor oil thread, they are all worth revivng every nowand then... ;-)

the guy from amortizzatore does read english mails, not so sure about his oral skills

He sells only directly,

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Ok cool because that's one I want to buy after I convert my front end to cbr f4i forks
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 06:08:39 PM »
ok in these amortizzatore shocks or any shocks in general. can I get them at a 11" full extended shock.   t he ones on my 550 now are 13" or so from eye to clevis. and want to lower the bike all around and am looking for a good performance shock thats 2 inches lower.
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 06:16:15 PM »
ok in these amortizzatore shocks or any shocks in general. can I get them at a 11" full extended shock.   t he ones on my 550 now are 13" or so from eye to clevis. and want to lower the bike all around and am looking for a good performance shock thats 2 inches lower.
have u checked the FAQ for a low down on parts? theres a few good links for shocks but i havnt purchased any
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 07:08:25 PM »
I just recived my NOS redwing shocks toady, They look to be very ajustable and come with full instructions on how to get the best out them. Does anyone else run these Redwing shocks??? They are dated 1978!!! and in there box and brown paper with everything!!

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2009, 06:58:28 AM »
some racers here use these:

http://www.ammortizzatori.net/

ultralight, well damped, adjustable height, they will fit it with any spring rate you want, 200 euros. pretty decent deal me thinks.

TG



Hi TG,
I'm working me too with Pericle's dampers:





It's a very good product, price/quality is very good.

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2009, 07:20:56 AM »
some racers here use these:

http://www.ammortizzatori.net/

ultralight, well damped, adjustable height, they will fit it with any spring rate you want, 200 euros. pretty decent deal me thinks.

TG




Hi TG,
I'm working me too with Pericle's dampers:





It's a very good product, price/quality is very good.



I was looking at their site last night again and might order a set for the rebuild.  Looks like they will do what I'm trying to achiev. 
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #83 on: October 22, 2009, 05:32:13 AM »
I don't really know how good these are going to be, but they sure as hell will be better than the marshmallows I have on the back at the moment. They should be arriving in the next coupla days I hope. $119.95 US  for the pair from http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/Index_Main_Frame.htm
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« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2009, 03:21:35 PM »
You get what you pay for Frosty, I had a set of those on a Suzuki GS1000G and they were rubbish. Ikons are around 400 bucks but around 400 times better. It's a bit like that old helmet ad that went, "If you've got a 10 dollar head, buy a 10 dollar helmet".

Having said that, I just bought a new pair of "Progressive 440" rear shocks for my new Triumph Rocket 3 (rrp $1230 AUD in Oz, or $590.00 US, where I bought them from) and while they seem to work OK, they look "cheap" in comparison to the Ikons, which I probably should have bought. Oh well..............  ::)   
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2010, 09:21:29 PM »
Here is my contribution to thread reviving. In regards to those Chinese Ebay cafe shocks, here is a VERY good review:
 http://www.kaleesphotography.com/photoartclub/Shocksproject/shocksproject.html
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« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2010, 10:40:16 PM »
So the Chinese shocks aren't so cheap afterall...
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2010, 07:01:59 AM »
When I wanted some slightly longer rear shocks for more ground clearance on my modified CB750F2 I found that the ones for a CBX1000ZA fitted & worked perfectly.

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2010, 07:29:56 AM »
I just use progressive brand on the street bikes. Not terribly expensive, and good quality and performance.

Works brand for the racebike, though Jon is going progressive for his racebike.

Hell, the damn things are only going to weigh 270-280 lbs. Could prolly use sticks and some rubber bands.
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2010, 07:51:11 AM »
Here is my contribution to thread reviving. In regards to those Chinese Ebay cafe shocks, here is a VERY good review:
 http://www.kaleesphotography.com/photoartclub/Shocksproject/shocksproject.html


Thank you Tim!  And just in case the link dies in the future, it is a "VERY good review" in the sense of the quality of the review.  The shocks in question are the cheap Chinese made piggy back reservoir shocks and are shown to be less than what one pays for as the reviewer essentially found that the shocks were nearly unusable "out of the box".  They required modifications to function even partially correct(undersprung and underdamped) and required modifications to operate safely(poor clevis design/manufacture/material).  Perhaps they would work as is on a light 125 or some such.

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2010, 08:50:26 AM »
Best shocks...was the question at top of this forum.  Works Performance are the best in my book. But you will have to get them the proper data as in "suspension triangulation" specs. How else would you expect to get the performance expected?  Things like rider weight? Bike weight? Swing arm length, swingarm pivot length to middle axel position, swingarm pivot to upper shock mount. Swingarm pivot to bottom shock mount.

Come on guys...this is rocket science and I have a book for that.

Get a hold of me if you want the beast.

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PS: Daytona 2001 we changed only rear shocks from Progressive Suspension to Works..we were two seconds a lap quicker and won by 59.5 seconds! The largest win time advantage ever in Classic race at Daytona.

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2010, 01:53:43 PM »
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PS: Daytona 2001 we changed only rear shocks from Progressive Suspension to Works..we were two seconds a lap quicker and won by 59.5 seconds! The largest win time advantage ever in Classic race at Daytona.

Wow, that is quite a testament to what a properly setup and functioning shock can do.

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« Reply #92 on: January 10, 2010, 09:53:55 AM »
Yes, the engine guy on the team was not pleased, as he thought horsepower was the greatest contributing factor in going fast!   Not in road racing...as the goal is to turn every corner into a straight away. ie: can't have engines that "hit hard" and must maximize the drive out of the corner with great midrange power.


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« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2010, 04:06:38 PM »
I guess the title "Best Aftermarket Shocks" can be interpreted in several ways. I've no doubt that Works performance or Ohlins shocks are probably the best shocks that you can put on just about any bike ever built, but I've said it before, (for most of us without mega dollar race bikes) putting $1000.00 shocks on a CB750 is like putting a fur coat on a 10 dollar hooker..........

New Ikons, Hagons, Progressives, etc, are all good quality shocks and perfect for riding in the real world, whether it be commuting, touring, or canyon racing. I certainly don't advocate buying some of the rubbish that you'll find on EBay or from The Old Bike Barn Bastaards, but a compromise between whats best and what's affordable is perfectly acceptable, any quality shock is far superior to the OEM pogo sticks our bikes came out with. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #94 on: January 10, 2010, 08:16:41 PM »
I just recived my NOS redwing shocks toady, They look to be very ajustable and come with full instructions on how to get the best out them. Does anyone else run these Redwing shocks??? They are dated 1978!!! and in there box and brown paper with everything!!

Cheers
Tom

I do. Probably bought ours from the same dude. I thought they were pretty stiff, which was ok because I had about 60 pounds of gear on the bike during the trip I bought the shocks for.
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2010, 06:20:57 PM »
Well darn lets keep this thread going!!

I'm building my 75' 750f to be a race bike and I need some help choosing rear shocks. (I'll search what I can do to the 35mm forks later)

I would like some recommendations. So far ikon, Progressives, Hagon, and YSS seem to be the best brands for me to choose from.

Here are the details if you would like to help.

100ish-250ish dollars.
I weigh 160lbs.
Bike will have some frame reinforcement.
Bike weight will only be slightly reduced. (maybe 25 pounds)
I will be riding primarily on the track. (I don't need comfort)
I will most likely have 18in. aluminum hoops for wheels. (if that makes a difference)

Any input is welcome!!
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« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2010, 06:44:38 PM »
Yes, the engine guy on the team was not pleased, as he thought horsepower was the greatest contributing factor in going fast!   Not in road racing...as the goal is to turn every corner into a straight away. ie: can't have engines that "hit hard" and must maximize the drive out of the corner with great midrange power.


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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2010, 08:59:16 PM »
Well darn lets keep this thread going!!

I'm building my 75' 750f to be a race bike and I need some help choosing rear shocks. (I'll search what I can do to the 35mm forks later)

I would like some recommendations. So far ikon, Progressives, Hagon, and YSS seem to be the best brands for me to choose from.

Here are the details if you would like to help.

100ish-250ish dollars.
I weigh 160lbs.
Bike will have some frame reinforcement.
Bike weight will only be slightly reduced. (maybe 25 pounds)
I will be riding primarily on the track. (I don't need comfort)
I will most likely have 18in. aluminum hoops for wheels. (if that makes a difference)

Any input is welcome!!

Progressives are the only ones at that price range, everything else you listed is more expensive than $250.
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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2010, 10:24:52 PM »
Seems this thread just keeps on giving.

My "74 CB750 K4 needs new suspension and my research has led be to believe that Progressive front and rear will do nicely...  They're running a special deal right now: Buy a pair of 440's (by May 31, 2010) and receive a pair of fork springs free after you mail in your redemption form with the requisite proof. The cost would be $250 to $300 for the rears and then the fronts are free!

Now all that remains is how stiff I want the rear spring set to be. They offer two rates; since I'm about 180 and the bike's nearly 500 pounds full of gas, and I'll be riding 2up with my wife quite often, I should probably get the stiffer set...

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Re: Best Aftermarket Shocks
« Reply #99 on: May 22, 2010, 04:28:43 PM »
Yes, the engine guy on the team was not pleased, as he thought horsepower was the greatest contributing factor in going fast!   Not in road racing...as the goal is to turn every corner into a straight away. ie: can't have engines that "hit hard" and must maximize the drive out of the corner with great midrange power.


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That statement begs the question...are lightened cranks good for roadracing? I have my opinion and experiences.
 
   You're such a tease Mike.  I'll go out on a limb and say that for road racing...balanced yes though lightened only as much as it takes to balance it...unless it's better off with a heavier non-balanced crank? Are you looking at center of gravity...torque? Both? OMG!!! So many questions... ;D ;D ;D

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