Topic: New Honda CB750 rumoured

[tom8Toe]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard the latest from Honda or anywhere else whether or not this is going to happen? Not that I would be able to afford one, but just in case 

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2007/July/july16-22/jul1607newhondacb750motorcyclerumoured/?R=EPI-92750

[Raul CB750K1]

Those are old news. It was dated July 2007, so they were talking about Tokyo show Oct 2007, and there was no CB750. But I have no doubt there will be one, probably on the 40th anniversary. That will be great news for those of us who have complete bikes because they will value up. But if you are hunting for prices, get ready to pay the price when a renewed interest makes everybody look at these old Hondas.

[magnus72]

http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/cb750/color/index.html

this is what they got over there now.

I dont think I would buy a new "old" Honda. I dont think it would sell all that much in Japan either.

I did notice older Triumph prices take a jump when the retros came out, but I dont know if that would work here.

[mj_honda]

If a new "old" CB750 was released I would jump on one. I don't like the one that is being sold in Japan right now. It would have to have the classic CB style before the cash would leave my hands.

There is no way I would buy a fully restored like CB750 and ride it. There is just something about spending that kind of dough on something that old and riding it. Some people do but it would make me too nervous because of all the idiots out there. At least with something new I wouldn't mind riding it so much. If Honda doesn't release one by 2009 I will be buying a new Bonnie. 

[Geeto67]

http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/cb750/color/index.html

this is what they got over there now.

I dont think I would buy a new "old" Honda. I dont think it would sell all that much in Japan either.

I did notice older Triumph prices take a jump when the retros came out, but I dont know if that would work here.

The DOHC cb750s are a cult bike in japan, which is why the "new" cb750s they have been selling since 2002 look like the bikes from 1979-1982 (the paint scheme is the 1982 honda paint schemes for the cb750F Integra and the cb1100f). Retro bikes sell huge in japan - the kawasaki zephyer is a replica 1973-1974 z1 over there right down to the paint.

as to whether it would sell here? america is a fickle public with harley styled crusiers and sport bikes making up the bulk of US sales (where as overseas small displacement practical bikes make up the majority of sales).

[cafe750]

Check these out.... http://motorcycles.about.com/od/conceptbikegalleries/ig/2007-Tokyo-Motor-Show-Hondas/Honda-CB1100F-Profile.htm
Google CB1100R, that's a pretty nifty bike too... I just hope that they make production!

[fuzzybutt]

this bike you mean?

[cafe750]

Fuzzy, If its real, I'll take three....but that pic has a very "plastic model" quality to it...

[754]

If you really love and understand the original ones, you will never be real happy with the new offerings.. speccially if you factor in the price..jmo.

[fuzzybutt]

Fuzzy, If its real, I'll take three....but that pic has a very "plastic model" quality to it...

i dont remember what magazine site i got it from, been more than a year though. it is the real thing though.

[toycollector10]

I've never liked the "old look in the new style", whether it's a car, bike, building or whatever. It just never looks right.

[paulages]

I've never liked the "old look in the new style", whether it's a car, bike, building or whatever. It just never looks right.

me either, but that one sure looks nice. the new bonnevilles and W650s turn my head everytime (and there are a lot of them here in portland, or), but upon closer inspection, they just don't look anywhere as nice as the old ones. DOHC cams, horizontally split cases, etc. probably make for a much better bike, but it's hard to really capture the beauty of something old and fit it into the modern world.

[toycollector10]

Honda will never, repeat, NEVER, recapture the mystique, allure or desirability of the origanal CB750.

The poseurs, try hards and "me too" brigade will have to go out and source an original if they want to have any credibility.

Just my opinion.

[BobbyR]

The new Mustang is a good case in point of making old new again. They did a great job on that. In 40 years they have learned a lot about motorcycle technologhy. A new CB750 could capture the flavor of the old. It would be more powerful, handle better and have better brakes. I had a 67 Mustang Fastback with a Shelby engine when they were new. The "New"  Mustang is smaller, it is also much faster and handles better. Ford did keep one thing about the old Mustang, the ass end has very little grip.       

[Steve F]

I wonder if they DO make it, if any of the new parts would fit our old bikes..........like side covers and fuel tanks?

[rbmgf7]

I wonder if they DO make it, if any of the new parts would fit our old bikes..........like side covers and fuel tanks?

that would be awesome if they had the original dies and molds. then wouldn't that technically mean its original OEM? i remember hearing a rumor that the shaker hood scoops on the generation mustangs before the current ones were made from the original 60's molds.

[nickjtc]

Doesn't matter what any of the car or bike companies come up with that capture the 'retro' look. These new products will never be the same as the originals........too much emissions plumbing, too much electrickery.............just 'too much'. I can do a complete tune up on Sophie in an hour and a half, and that means everything. The new stuff would have DOHC's, plus shims, plus this, that and the other.

Don't get me wrong here, I like the idea of old-looking new cars and bikes. But they will never be what we enjoy and love.

[Hope]

ahh.. this has been covered a couple of times

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=26812.0
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=24947.0
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=24186.0
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=27397.0
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=27674.0

If my memory serves me correctly, this is a picture of a CB450 that was in production in Japan and sold in Japan a few years ago - this is not a 750

[754]

The riders that have the real ones, will laugh at the new ones.

The riders that are too worried to ride an old bike will buy the new ones..

 Even if you try to tell people how reliable the old onew are,  most will still buy a new one because it is "better".

 Very few bikes have been made that are as simple, reliable and easy to work on as a CB 750..

[Geeto67]

If my memory serves me correctly, this is a picture of a CB450 that was in production in Japan and sold in Japan a few years ago - this is not a 750

Wrong. That is the CB750 concept bike from the 2002 Tokyo Motorcycle Show. It is a fully functional cb750 and the motor is actually the same motor that is in the current cb750 that is sold in japan now (and had direct lineage with the last nighthawk honda sold here in the states). The bike was built to gauge interest in revitalizing the cb750 in japan. It was never meant to be a production bike despite being a fully functional motorcycle. I have several magazines from japan showcasing that bike (it pays to have relatives in japan) and a couple of shots I got from honda japan's website when they showed it.

There was a 400 four concept that was similar but it is not that bike.

In 2003 they came out with the concept for the cb750 that is now in production over there. 

[mustangcar]

something about dual cams ,just don't fit the image right

[754]

& never will...


The more they make it better, the less it will be the same...

[Andoo]

Im sure they could make a valve cover that looked like the old sohc while still having dohc.

[754]

I think not.. its a bit like putting a 24 pack into a 12 pack..

[Jonesy]

I dunno.. Triumph does that by hiding the fuel injectors and throttle position sensors in old craburetor castings.. Keeps the classic look with modern technology. Judging from the looks of the new bike, I think the oil filter housing is the only part that would swap out...

If they came out with the "new" cb750, I'd buy one. On the days I don't want to wait for the carbureted engine to warm up, want better brakes, better headlight, an electrical system that has plenty of room of other items... True, back in the day, the CB750 was tops in almost every category, but hopefully in today's historical context it will (as Robert Plant described Led Zeppelin's approach to "modernized" blues) "translate and kick on" the spirit of the original machine. My fear would be that by the time the prototype filters down to a production bike, some of the neatness will be lost.