Topic: should i not let my doc prescribe dilaudid for my neck/back pain?

[fuzzybutt]

the pain in my neck and back are bad enough some days now that the oxycodone wont even touch it, unless i take 3 or 4 at once. doc wants me to start on dilaudid, but i've heard that stuff is just synthetic heroin. so far i'm not hooked on the oxycodone, i go several days sometimes without taking any with no withdrawal or jonesing for it. about half the time i can just roll a joint and nurse it all day long and that works but there ARE times i have to go to the hard stuff. chiropractor wont touch me because of the injuries and the pain relief clinics here wont take medicaid patients usually.

[seaweb11]

It's a slippery slope....it is synthetic heroin.

I'm sitting here with a broken rib, "since before Christmas" Wife had some surgery at the same time and has some of that stuff, but I won't touch it. I just roll another tight one like you

If the pain is as bad as you describe, what options for a sub normal day do you have?

Good luck.

I'm so board of laying around all day I could scream, except that would hurt to much

[333]

I'm with you on the fattie, Seaweb.  But I don't see how to do it with a broken rib.  Expansion would be excruciating.  I'd probably go the brownie route.

[seaweb11]

small bowl, repeat often is actually my med program

[Spikeybike]

well i can tell you from experience on the "other side of the fence"  that oxycodone is also an opioid.  though nowhere near as strong as dilaudid.   

i would stick to the dubbies, if i were you. 

i have found that for serious pain,  anything to do with bones,  that an opioid or opiates  are the only thing that will really make the pain go away

unfortunately, they make ALOT of other really important stuff go away too

[seaweb11]

i would stick to the dubbies, if i were you. 

(Spell check alert)
I always thought it was "dooby"    or maybe doobie...........

cheers

[BobbyR]

I would suppose that you have seen a pain specialist. My Father and friend go to one and he uses a fluoroscope and gets a mixture of Novocaine right on the nerves and it lasts about 3-4 months. This is different that guys that just shoot into the skin in the general area. This goes right where the pain is coming from. Oxy is Codeine and Dilaudid is in the real opiate. I would opt for a local relief that would allow me to function normally rather than generally numbing the whole body with a narcotic. 

[Spikeybike]

i would stick to the dubbies, if i were you. 

(Spell check alert)
I always thought it was "dooby"    or maybe doobie...........

cheers

i was using it plural   Mr.Grammar Police 

[gregk]

Fuzzy

The Oxycodone are a combination of a narcotic and acetaminophens and are used to relieve moderate to severe pain.  One brand name is Percocet which has a street name of " hillbilly heroin".  They are addictive! 
If you lived in Canada, you would probably qualify for medical pot for pain relief. 
This seems to be a moderate approach to pain control.  I speak from experience.

Greg

[fuzzybutt]

the hydrocodone has the acetominophen and oxycodone combined. oxydocdone is just the narcotic side of it, since my docs want me to stay away from other drugs that might affect my liver.

[fuzzybutt]

a neighbor gave me a couple dilaudid this morning and i took one with mybreakfast. i'll stick to what i'm on now, the oxycodone doesnt turn me into a boneless chicken (it's how i feel) all i've been able to do is sit on the couch and smile at people. no damn fun IMO. the oxycodone actually speeds me up some.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Fuzzy, if it's that bad to need friggen Dilaudid (hydromorphone) why not the knife?? Is this something that will go away? Or will you just survive and be a hooked slave to pain meds? Dilaudid, Fentanyl and Methadone seem to be the preferred end point meds these days. The medical perception used to be to not give these strong meds. Probably caused by the DEA. Evil. Addictive. They will only be resold on the street or "given to a neighbor". ETC. Dilaudid used to go for $50 a pop. Then they decided that we are under treating pain and to get aggressive. Now we are giving this #$%* by the bucket full. It's un-friggen-believable what goes across the pharmacy counters these days. I'm amazed at the tolerances that are being developed. Some of the doses I see would kill most people.

Your reference to hydrocodone is not correct. It is 1 step under oxycodone with oxycodone being stronger. Your doc is correct in the liver department. The high doses of acetaminophen can be harmful to your liver especially when taking ii oxy/acet 10/650 Q4H prn on a daily basis. We can live with pain but not without a liver. Oh yeah, if you are getting Oxycodone SR, do not cut them in half. You will get the full 12 hour dose immediately. My not be a good thing.

Don't be doing dubbies or doobys. The doobies are better. At least you will temporarily forget about the pain.

 

[fuzzybutt]

doc says now that surgery wont correct the nerve damage i've gotten. my oxycodone just has a 5mg dosage, not like a 5/500 or a 10/325. these are just little tiny 1/8" orange tabs. i smoke a doobie only when i dont have to function or do something like use sharp knives or machinery.

[333]

At least you're spelling it right.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

doc says now that surgery wont correct the nerve damage i've gotten. my oxycodone just has a 5mg dosage, not like a 5/500 or a 10/325. these are just little tiny 1/8" orange tabs. i smoke a doobie only when i dont have to function or do something like use sharp knives or machinery.

5mg is a small dose. Not to be concerned. Has the doc talked about Gabapentin for the nerve pain? Might want to ask him. On the subject of doobs you might also enquire of the doc about Maranol/dronabinol if burning one helps. At least Medicaid might cover that. No papers required.

[Spikeybike]

At least you're spelling it right.

IT WAS PLURAL !!!! 























 

[UnCrash]

Fuz, FYI Massachusettes just de-criminalized minor posession and lowered the offense of carrying less than an Oz. to a $100 fine as long it is in a single bag.

[fuzzybutt]

they cant prescribe maranol here in sc, found that out when my wife was going through chemo 4 years ago. we've tried gabapentin and neurontin and elavil for nerve pain, unfirtunately all they did was make me sleepy and put my liver enzymes out of whack. ibuprofen actually works best on the pain, BUT, unless iwant to end up in the er with bad things exploding out of both ends, i have to keep away from ANY nsaid, including asprin. the guy i usually buy my weed from is now in jail so that wont be a pain reliever in the near future. i changed my oil today and did brake pads and rotors up front and the first thing i did was come inside and take 2 oxycodone and a 10mg flexeril, even then, i wont be able to move for the rest of today and probably tomorrow too.  a few weeks ago i told my wife that (even with how we dont get along sometimes) if it werent for my cats and her i'd have done myself in a year ago from this damn pain. i'm too damn young to feel this bad lol. okay mini rant over, sorry about that folks

[ieism]

Having pain all the time sucks big time. I used to have a lot off pain in my shoulder (I got surgery after 2 years off second opinions), what I remember most is not being able to sleep and waking up more tired than before going to bed.

I don't really have problems with any drugs/medicine, and experimented with lots off stuff when I was younger, but medical opium is a pretty serious trip. I took that stuff a couple off times, and it was so good that I can image beeing hooked to it pretty quick.
Sure your pain will be better, but it can get you so high that somebody could kick you in the nuts and you'd still be smiling.

If the stuff you get from your doc is anything like this, I would strongly advice you to stay away from it. It you want to be the happiest little zombie in town, give it a try.

Just my 2 cents, I'm not advocating druguse in any form.

Ivar

[bunghole]

I'm with you on the fattie, Seaweb.  But I don't see how to do it with a broken rib.  Expansion would be excruciating.  I'd probably go the brownie route.

Or.....

THE VOLCANO!!!!:



http://thevolcanovaporizer.com/buy-volcano-digit.php

Better for your lungs too!

[fuzzybutt]

thing is, i could take 30 or 40mg of oxycodone and not have a problem (highest dosage it's sold in is 15mg) i have a huge tolerance to drugs (in my youth i smoked, snorted and ate just about everything) the oxycodone is pretty mild compared to stuff like fentanyl, morphine or dilaudid. in fact dilaudid is TOO much fun, feels just like heroin does (i snorted and smoked it in my 20's) as far as i can tell, i'm nowhere near addicyed to the stuff i'm taking now. i try not to take it unless i literally cant move my head from the pain. i had a pretty severe coke habit in the early-late 90's so i'm REAL careful that way. in fact i dont really LIKE the way i feel when i'm on the oxycodone now, speeds me up too much and keeps me from sleeping.

[BobbyR]

Fuzzy, now that we have had a primer on legal and semi legal drugs, the question is still a debilitating pain. Medical treatment is not evenly spread across the country. Procedures that are routinely done in major mediacal centers may not get everywhere for years if ever. I know someone who just had an artificial disc placed in their neck, after some rehab they are doing very well and are almost pain free.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Fuzzy,

If the weed works, stick to that. No addiction, no overdose deaths, less jail time. Many states including Colorado and Kentucky now have controlled drug databases and eventually all states will. Information on ANY/EVERY controlled script filled HAS to be submitted to the database. It provides info on the patient such as the drug, quantity, date filled, payment method, prescriber, drug store(s), etc. This database has gotten MANY seekers/abusers/doctor shoppers busted as well as prescribers and pharmacies. Be VERY careful mixing stuff too! Respiratory depression caused by narcotics has killed MANY people. Go to sleep, stop breathing, die.

Oxycodone IR (immediate release) is available up to 30mg. You're a little rusty on your drug knowledge so don't let that get you in trouble one way or the other.

I just wish the best for you whatever that takes.

[78 k550]

become your own caregiver.

Paul

[fuzzybutt]

Fuzzy,

If the weed works, stick to that. No addiction, no overdose deaths, less jail time. Many states including Colorado and Kentucky now have controlled drug databases and eventually all states will. Information on ANY/EVERY controlled script filled HAS to be submitted to the database. It provides info on the patient such as the drug, quantity, date filled, payment method, prescriber, drug store(s), etc. This database has gotten MANY seekers/abusers/doctor shoppers busted as well as prescribers and pharmacies. Be VERY careful mixing stuff too! Respiratory depression caused by narcotics has killed MANY people. Go to sleep, stop breathing, die.

Oxycodone IR (immediate release) is available up to 30mg. You're a little rusty on your drug knowledge so don't let that get you in trouble one way or the other.

I just wish the best for you whatever that takes.

i appreciate the info on dosages, it's been years since i've had to take stuff like this. i DO try not to take the narcotics until the pain is unbearable. i know how dangerous that stuff can be.

[Spikeybike]

man i really feel for you bro ,  just the thought of having to take that kinda stuff makes my skin crawl.

one thing to remember if,  god forbid, you do end up on a regular dosage of the hard stuff... getting off of it is waay worse then any pain your in now.