Author Topic: OK heres my first post here. lets see how smart you guys are. (Read 21326 times)

GoatBaSS · « **Reply #50 on:** April 27, 2009, 09:07:09 PM »

Quote from: hcritz on April 27, 2009, 01:35:50 PM

Hey Mojo.
Just a few things I know...
I had a Triumph Bonneville that came with no battery..

Does the positive ground sysem make a difference? Hi Jakky!!!!

Sporkfly · « **Reply #51 on:** April 27, 2009, 09:17:30 PM »

Quote from: edbikerii on April 27, 2009, 09:04:08 PM

In my experience with cb550, everything quits when you disconnect the battery at idle. I'm pretty sure (but I cannot swear) I've disconnected the battery at higher RPM and it kept running until the revs dropped down, then it just died. I'm unable to reproduce that experiment at the moment, but I'm sure you are capable of doing this yourself.

Also, there's no way in hell the bike will start with even a low battery, let alone no battery. Not by kicking, not by bump-starting, nothing. Mind you, I had already converted to electronic ignition, which I understand does not work at all when voltage is low. When I had points, it was much easier to bump-start when battery was low.

Yes, I could see a capacitor-driven system storing energy for periods where the alternator could not produce any. However, why not just use a battery at that point? Battery would serve as a capacitor.

+1, these bikes will not start without a good charge on the battery. If it can't turn the starter it's going to be a challenge (like that mojo? A challenge!) to get it going even with the kick. Not only is the battery charging the field coil, it's charging the ignition coils. And powering the head light. And the markers. And the tail light. And the instrument lights. You get the picture here, I've wound up stranded with a low charge on the battery. Even reading 11.7 volts (a single volt from a full charge) it's tough getting the beast to fire.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #52 on:** April 27, 2009, 09:20:50 PM »

Hmm.

Well, you ask how smart we are, and then proceed to make a totally false claim that's based on your lack of knowledge about the CB750 charging system.

Quote from: mojomoto on April 27, 2009, 01:14:43 PM

If you dont think its possible or want to discourage me. DONT reply.
If you have any knowledge or experience, good ideas please reply.
The reason i know it will work is because of common sense.

You claim to know that you can run a CB750 without a battery, but you had no idea that the 750's charging system is an excited field system. Your "rules" presume that anyone that doesn't think it will work, has no knowledge or experience.

When, in actuality, the people who have the most knowledge and experience here will tell you without a doubt that the 750's alternator cannot generate power without input voltage. You were even linked to the only manufacturer who makes a REPLACEMENT alternator that incorporates permanent magnets, yet you insist that a capacitor based system will work.

I think this is why people are offended.

mystic_1

bryanj · « **Reply #53 on:** April 27, 2009, 11:58:00 PM »

Yes it can be made to run without a battery,

Fit a very expensive, if you can find one, magneto and have no other electrical items on the bike.

As to your attitude i have only one answer

BOLLOCKS

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #54 on:** April 28, 2009, 04:36:28 AM »

Quote

A Troll is a person who ruins a board with useless garbage.

HAHAHAHAHA, isn't that exactly how you started your post.?

In answer to another question you posted, there are all types on here and guess what..!! we all don't agree with each other and funnily enough that is what a forum is....then there are over opinionated #$%*s and smart asses, that seems to be where you fit in...

Sorry Havock but i feel compelled to quote you....

"I, by the nature of my own being, think that you, sir, are full of sh1t.....

Have a nice day

fishhead · « **Reply #55 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:35:14 AM »

Would putting magnets in the rotor accomplish a charging system that does not require a battery?

Rules to reply:

1. Must have a PHD from an Ivy league college
2. Must have an intelligent answer handed down from the All Mighty or a household dog with a fuzzy tail
3. Must work for NASA or other apporoved technical Goverment institution
3. Must be able to count to/or past the number after 3
OR
3. Or none of the above

mystic_1 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:50:47 AM »

Sorry, cannot help you fishhead, my electrical system designs are handed down from my cat. I stopped listening to the neighbor's dog, he's colorblind after all!

mystic_1

crazypj · « **Reply #57 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:59:28 AM »

Quote from: mojomoto on April 27, 2009, 01:34:07 PM

Three phase will work without a battery. Ive got a three phase permanent magnet alternator from a honda shadow on my xs650. No battery. Works fine. A two pahse would work if i didnt want lights.
Would an electric igniton use less power?

Talk about quick response. Ill give you guys that much. just that though. Rules....ahem.

You state the obvious permanent magnet alternator
When you have an 'excited coil alternator' working without a battery, then I'll be impressed
If you switch to a permanent magnet alternator it works just the way you want
BTW, how did you fit a Honda alternator to XS?
The crank tapers are different

PJ

mlinder · « **Reply #58 on:** April 28, 2009, 06:13:37 AM »

Quote from: myhondas on April 27, 2009, 08:27:09 PM

yea....finally found a use of the ignore button. Never thought I would use it until now....what a a$$h#le. Insult the source of knowledge by ignorance. How does one become a full member with two stars and only have nine posts of which all were insulting to this forum and it's members?

WTF are the stars? What do they signify?

my78k · « **Reply #59 on:** April 28, 2009, 06:16:00 AM »

Ok let me put this thread into perspective for everyone.....at least it wasn't another oil thread!

Dennis

Damfino · « **Reply #60 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:38:04 AM »

Quote from: my78k on April 28, 2009, 06:16:00 AM

Ok let me put this thread into perspective for everyone.....at least it wasn't another oil thread!

Dennis

YIKES!!!

SteveD CB500F · « **Reply #61 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:38:40 AM »

Quote from: mlinder on April 28, 2009, 06:13:37 AM

WTF are the stars? What do they signify?

Check the FAQs

New Member with no posts = 1 star
Full Member with 2 stars = 1-50 posts

Posts in the Classifieds do not count so a New Member can join up and go straight to the Classifieds with one star.

What do they signify?

Nuthin' really....

upperlake04 · « **Reply #62 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:46:24 AM »

Quote from: SteveD CB500F on April 28, 2009, 07:38:40 AM

Nuthin' really....

Going American on us Steve?

Gordon · « **Reply #63 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:06:31 AM »

Quote from: Swoop on April 28, 2009, 08:00:52 AM

This knob sure sounds like this http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=48273.0
knob....no?

They all sound the same.

I think it's time to move this whole thread over to the SPBT!

754 · « **Reply #64 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:09:09 AM »

I'd like to help you out...

Which way did you come in ?......

SteveD CB500F · « **Reply #65 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:30:21 AM »

Quote from: Swoop on April 28, 2009, 08:00:52 AM

This knob sure sounds like this http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=48273.0
knob....no?

Different IP

We do check you know

SteveD CB500F · « **Reply #66 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:35:24 AM »

Quote from: upperlake on April 28, 2009, 07:46:24 AM

Quote from: SteveD CB500F on April 28, 2009, 07:38:40 AM
Nuthin' really....
Going American on us Steve?

Actually, I was thinking of Macbeth Act V Scene V

"...a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"

upperlake04 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:42:02 AM »

Excellent!

sangyo soichiro · « **Reply #68 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:31:18 AM »

Quote from: mojomoto on April 27, 2009, 08:53:25 PM

I really dont understand. "Lets see how smart you guys are." This is insulting? Whats wrong with a challenge? A question is challanging a persons intelligence.Yes. Should i ask a question everyone knows the answer to so they wont be insulted and have their feelings hurt? I like challenges....

Okay, let's say we have an airplane on a runway...
Oh, nevermind!

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=49108.0

goon 1492 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:42:45 AM »

Tee hee hee, last active today and ignored by 4 members...Ok so who is ignoring?...

mystic_1 · « **Reply #70 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:01:34 AM »

Quote from: goon 1492 on April 28, 2009, 09:42:45 AM

and ignored by 4 members...

Better refresh your browser there buddy

mystic_1

billybobobrain · « **Reply #71 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:38:21 AM »

Ignored by 5 now, altho one of my favorite past times is trolling for trolls.

Edit: ignored by 8 now

billybobobrain · « **Reply #72 on:** April 28, 2009, 11:02:38 AM »

Maybe when he started the insults we should have all just deleted the information given.

MJL · « **Reply #73 on:** April 28, 2009, 12:55:10 PM »

Quote from: fishhead on April 28, 2009, 05:35:14 AM

Would putting magnets in the rotor accomplish a charging system that does not require a battery?

Rules to reply:

1. Must have a PHD from an Ivy league college
2. Must have an intelligent answer handed down from the All Mighty or a household dog with a fuzzy tail
3. Must work for NASA or other apporoved technical Goverment institution
3. Must be able to count to/or past the number after 3
OR
3. Or none of the above

My dog says "Bark Bark growl woof." I have no idea what it means.

Chester345 · « **Reply #74 on:** April 28, 2009, 01:08:08 PM »

My dog pees on me if I act in any way happy to see her when I get home.

I'm pretty sure that means I can ride a bike with no handlebars (or battery).

News:

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