Author Topic: Making a baffle - Part 2 - Sound Clip Inside  (Read 8397 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Making a baffle - Part 2 - Sound Clip Inside
« on: May 29, 2009, 02:38:18 pm »
Well, I was successful in making a baffle/mini muffler for the 750K7. The bike sounds awesome. I'll post a picture of what I did and a sound clip as soon as my computer is back from being repaired.

One question on jetting:

Im running pods and the exhaust is a Mac 4-1. Bike ran perfect in all throttle ranges before opening up the baffle ( light tan plugs) and now the exhaust is flowing a lot more than before, and my WOT position has seemed to weakened. Good power from start to about 3/4, then no power. Im thinking now I may need to put a larger main in. Havent done a plug chop yet, but does more exhaust flow require a larger main?
« Last Edit: June 11, 2009, 04:38:34 am by Johnny5 »
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,285
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 03:54:27 pm »
I was wondering how that worked out for ya...

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 05:01:46 pm »
I have a great sound and not too loud either. Definitely louder, but 4 times deeper. I just ordered a few different main jets. Im sure a size up or two will work fine.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline moham

  • .fnord.
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,108
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 06:43:26 pm »
Fotos.
78 750K-The Ocho
74 550-The Cherry Picker
70 750K0 motor-Dick in a Box

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,285
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 07:06:40 pm »
Cant' wait to see what you made and how you made it, what pipe are you using by the way?

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 07:22:46 pm »
I'll have pics and a video clip as soon as my computer is back.

It's a mac header.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,285
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 07:29:56 pm »
Oh no, you didn't buy it from Best Buy did you?  Their service sucks and they'll try to tell you your machine is virused up just to get more money out of you...
they suck!

You got a Mac header to sound good?  You're the King!

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 07:41:52 pm »
Oh no, you didn't buy it from Best Buy did you?  Their service sucks and they'll try to tell you your machine is virused up just to get more money out of you...
they suck!

You got a Mac header to sound good?  You're the King!


Nah, my HP is having a video problem and it's covered under warranty. I sent it to them on the 26th and they sent it back out today. That's some decent service.


Im really surprised how nice the bike sounds. I had no idea what it was going to sound like with my baffle system. You guys are gonna poop a brick when you see it.

;D
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline KB02

  • Take it easy there, Sonny, I'm an
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,760
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 04:17:56 am »
You got a Mac header to sound good?  You're the King!

I'm anxious to hear the sound of it. I never liked the MAC exhausts; mostly because of that tinny, buzzing sound they have. I had one on an old nighthawk 750 (83). I pulled the baffle out of it once just to see if I could fix it or something. Had I known then what I know know, I would have done just what you're doing. There is only room for improvement.
1978 CB750K Project
2000 Ducati ST2
...and a pedal bike

Join the AMA today!!

My project thread Part I: K8 Project "Parts Bike"
My project thread Part II: Finishing (yeah, right) touches on Project "Parts Bike"

Offline moham

  • .fnord.
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,108
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 08:14:35 am »
Word. I've pulled my Mac baffle and drilled more holes in it, wrapped some Fiberglas aroun it, drilled more holes, pulled out the glas and still no bueno...only thing I haven't done is the stainless scrubbies, but I am interested to see/hear this.
78 750K-The Ocho
74 550-The Cherry Picker
70 750K0 motor-Dick in a Box

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 05:25:49 pm »
Yeah, I didnt use the Mac muffler at all and made my own mini muffler out of an exhaust tip. I didnt want to screw with the Mac muffler, afraid I'd make it worse. So I built one from scratch.

I'll post pictures and a video clip this week. Promise.

www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 07:09:38 pm »


Here's the baffle.

Started with this (inside of the exhaust tip (mini muffler):


Found this exhaust pipe connector and cut it down to fit inside the muffler and so the muffler will fit snug over the exhaust pipe.


Like this:


Baffle time. I used a headlight ear from a 1972 CB350. Drilled random holes in it. The more holes, the quieter the muffler will be. I jb welded a soup can bottom to the end of it. This will keep the packing inside the muffler.



To secure the baffle to the inside of the muffler, I used self tapping screws through the end of the muffler and into the soup can part. I packed the outside of the baffle with steel wool and used another soup can bottom to seal up the other end of the baffle.


I'll post a video clip of the bike running as soon as my computer is up and running. So far, I've got nothing but compliments on the sound.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 07:11:17 pm »
Oh and an update on the bike's jetting. It's fine, I was trying to go WOT in too high of a gear.  8)
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,285
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 06:59:48 am »
Oh and an update on the bike's jetting. It's fine, I was trying to go WOT in too high of a gear.  8)

I saw the pic of the baffle end and thought, "wow I wonder what he made that out of?"  Then I read down and thought, "holy crap that's a good trick!" 
it might not last through the second season, but who knows?  Maybe heat it up and spray some VHT paint inside and out to seal the surface of all that thin steel?

Very cool, can't wait to hear it.

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 07:31:16 am »
Oh and an update on the bike's jetting. It's fine, I was trying to go WOT in too high of a gear.  8)

I saw the pic of the baffle end and thought, "wow I wonder what he made that out of?"  Then I read down and thought, "holy crap that's a good trick!" 
it might not last through the second season, but who knows?  Maybe heat it up and spray some VHT paint inside and out to seal the surface of all that thin steel?

Very cool, can't wait to hear it.

Thanks and yeah, who knows how long it'll last. Cool thing is there's not much to it and can build something heavier duty later on.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Philly550K1

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 270
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 10:27:16 am »
fun, isn't it? do you have a pic of the whole thing installed?


Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 10:46:07 am »
Fun stuff, indeed.

Here's some shots:







www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Philly550K1

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 270
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 12:29:03 pm »
dig. yeah, i've admired that tip and similar ones in the toy store. if it were me, i wouldn't trust the clamp enough. i'd want a screw or bolt-and-nut thru the collector and the tip. a discreet one on the left/inboard side... of course, my current design incorporates a shower drain and a wingnut, so, caveat erector....

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 12:38:52 pm »
As far as holding the muffler to the exhaust pipe, the clamp works really well. It's on there tight!

The baffle is screwed in and secured from the outside, but I was able to access the part of the muffler through the back. In the first picture looking into the pipe, you can see what is actually welded to the muffler on the inside. I secured the soup can part of the baffle to this. It's not goin' anywhere.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Sporkfly

  • The frosty rider
  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 727
  • Mmm, Guinness
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 06:45:57 pm »
Sound clips man!

(I suppose you could say the same to me though  :D)
1977 CB550K
1979 GL1000 - Current project, winter '09-'10
1979 CX500
1976 Suzuki GT500 Titan

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2009, 04:38:36 am »
Got my computer back, but Im waiting to get my backup data from my friend to load the computer back up. I'll get the clip posted this weekend. Promise.
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Alan F.

  • We remember the Night Rider, and we know who you are.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,285
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2009, 06:34:16 am »
Sound clips?   ::)

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2009, 06:37:48 am »
Okay, okay, okay, tonight, I promise again!

 ;D
www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline Johnny5

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,593
    • CB350F build thread
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2009, 08:12:17 pm »
Geesh, that upload took forever. My son the camera man. :)

Here you go.

www.kerosenecycles.com
1971 CB350
1973 CB350F
2006 Harley Springer Classic

Offline kpier883

  • is quite the
  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 677
Re: Making a baffle - Part 2
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2009, 08:27:37 pm »
Looks and sounds good!
74 CB750
80 CBX
82 KZ1000 K2 (LTD)
57 1/2 ton chevy