Topic: Speeder has gun pulled on him.

[ElCheapo]

Pull a gun on me with no badge or lights to show for = getting your ass ran over. This cop is obviously out of control. He should be fired before he actually kills someone for not using their turn signal. For reference the cop was pulling thug for more than 2 seconds, plenty long enough to have a burn out done on your ass. Prove that I did know the guy I just ran over who had a gun was a cop. Won't stick.

If they play like this they will get hurt.

[MickeyX]

So, the question needs to be asked... how many of you broke the law today or yesterday? Come on, fess up. How many of you went over the speed limit? I mean even if it was 5mph. Because 5mph over is the same as 70mph over, just the fine is different. They are both over the limit and therefore, unlawful. The speed limit is set as what is a "safe" speed to drive on any given road in dry conditions. Now, if you add inclement weather, in most states, the laws require you to slow down 10-25mph below the limit. It's in the book you read to take your test. Anytime any of us go over the speed limit, we are placing others around us at more harm. So, the next question that needs to be asked... when was the last time you change lanes without signalling, no matter what speed you are traveling or if anyone is anywhere near you? If you don't, every single time, then you are breaking the law. Period. How many of you would expect in any of these situations for it to be normal for a police officer, uniformed or not, to pull a gun out of his/her holster at you for any of these infractions? You'd be #$%*ting a brick in your seat if they did, I bet.

Was the guy an #$%* for his riding? YES. He even videoed it just to post it so he could show off to his buddies and the world later on youtube. Was he breaking the law? YES. Did he deserve or warrant a gun to be unholstered at any time considering his hands stayed on the bars at all times? NO. The law for police officers is very black and white too. Keep it holstered unless eminent threat or danger is present. PERIOD.

BTW, patriotictex, I've had an inside look at our police for years and I can tell you this. No matter where I've lived, there were always "unwritten rules" that if something was occurring on a certain side of town or neighborhood, some of them they took their time getting there. Yes they are available 24/7/365 and yes they do put their butts on the line daily. But let's us not canonize them just yet, ok? They are human and have their own opinions on the general public. That opinion puts a shadow, good or bad, on how that particular officer handles the situation. Not one is perfectly good or bad. What that officer did was show his ANGER at the rider by pulling that weapon out of his holster without provocation. For that alone, he should get pulled out of the rotation for a while allowed to cool, minimum.

How about we have one thread around here that doesn't get into a pissing match and name calling, eh? Go ride and chill. 

[Retro Rocket]

Excellent post Mickey...

Mick

[Damfino]

I agree with you Mickey and I guess the fact is that neither of the parties is innocent of wrongdoing.
What I resent is the fact that because of what this cop did, well, they are referred to as 'pigs', 'pussys' 'morons' etc. You get the point. I thought we got over that mentality as we got out of our teens. No, not all cops are saints, but I've found if you show them a little respect when they got your ass sitting on the side of the road, most will let you off with a warning. Give them a hard time and they're likely to get annoyed, but then who's really being the ass there?

[Duke McDukiedook]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people. 

You smell that?

I smell a sawed off little runt piece of bacon... anyone else smell that?

[ElCheapo]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people. 

You smell that?

I smell a sawed off little runt piece of bacon... anyone else smell that?

That is what we call an all out ignorant Strawman argument followed up by a piss poor appeal to emotion. I guess if a person is going to have a battle wits they should show up armed?

[Rocking-M]

just a note, a fellow from another forum who has worked in Law Enforcement quite a bit has filed a complaint with
the MD State Police on the fellow. I'm waiting to hear back the response he receives. I'll let y'all know when I get it.

[Retro Rocket]

just a note, a fellow from another forum who has worked in Law Enforcement quite a bit has filed a complaint with
the MD State Police on the fellow. I'm waiting to hear back the response he receives. I'll let y'all know when I get it.

It will be interesting to see how the Police view it....

Mick

[patriotictex]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people.  

where the #$%* do you get the idea youre about the only one that respects law enforcement?!? most of if not all of us do, it's some of the bad cops that we disrespect, NOT all police, just the individuals that tend to abuse authority. perhaps as you mature you'll begin to understand that. exactly like me saying most 25 year olds are dumbasses, which is totally untrue.

Your level of immaturity is obvious, some people never grow up and that's o/k it's just a fact of nature.  With little life experiences to learn from you didn't make the choice to be ignorant it just happened.  If you’d like to reference the information it’s referred to as the learning perspective, a known psychological fact. 
I didn't state that all people on this forum disrespect the law, only the people in this thread who constantly refer to our nation’s brave law enforcement officers as gutless pigs and other slanderous remarks they managed to come up with from their limited vocabulary.  It’s very funny considering these are the same people who call 9-1-1 as soon as bad things happen, yet these officers who everyone is bashing still answer everyone’s calls for help indiscriminately 24 hours a day no matter what. 

Reality check mate, i have just reread the whole thread after reading your comments and i think its you who needs to pull back a bit. No one is bashing "all law enforcement officers" and if you blindly believe that all cops are good you live in lala land.
Most if not all comments are based on what the unmarked cop did in his immediate response and to me it looks like he was panicking by pulling his gun before identifying himself, definitely not what he is trained to do . I can think of many situations where if that guy {cop} did the exact same thing he would have been shot and questions asked later.
I don't care who you are, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car and pulled a gun on me with no identification produced what so ever then i would have { or would have wanted to} defended myself and if that meant shooting first then thats what i would have done.......how was the guy on the bike supposed to know he wasn't being jacked, or being dealt with by some vigilante moron ?   I would love to know how much "maturity" you show under the same circumstance. The bloke on the bike was an idiot, i see no one here condoning his actions as far as what he did in traffic, what i see here is a pile of people reacting to what the stupid cop did, reacting without thinking or applying the procedures he was taught at the academy, if that cop chooses to do the same thing as he has done here, in the future,  i can guarantee you someone will eventually beat him to the draw. He was as stupid as the female cop in the video......poor gun security.  Blindly defending all cops is ignorant, the majority do the right thing but there are plenty of corrupt and cowboy cops out there just as there is here in Aus....

Mick

Well obviously as a disabled combat veteran I can pretty much guarantee I would handle the situation a lot more mature than you would, and my resulting action would not have ended in the capital murder of a police officer who was trying to keep other motorists safe.  Then again I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to evade from a marked unit while riding one wheel at 100 mph on a busy highway either.   

[Laminar]

Well obviously as a disabled combat veteran I can pretty much guarantee I would handle the situation a lot more mature than you would, and my resulting action would not have ended in the capital murder of a police officer who was trying to keep other motorists safe.  Then again I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to evade from a marked unit while riding one wheel at 100 mph on a busy highway either.   

You're on a roll.

[patriotictex]

Pull a gun on me with no badge or lights to show for = getting your ass ran over. This cop is obviously out of control. He should be fired before he actually kills someone for not using their turn signal. For reference the cop was pulling thug for more than 2 seconds, plenty long enough to have a burn out done on your ass. Prove that I did know the guy I just ran over who had a gun was a cop. Won't stick.

If they play like this they will get hurt.

So the marked unit that would have been chasing you at 100 mph and was sitting right behind you wouldn't have been a major "CLUE" that the guy right in front of you is a cop too?  Any child can come to the conclusion that if a marked patrol unit with lights in uniform is behind you and an unmarked not in uniform is in front of you, obviously the guy in front of you is a cop also, especially if you had been evading down a busy highway.  I can't believe how many people in this thread think it's o/k to run from the police and get away with it.  It's mind boggling.

[ElCheapo]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people.  

where the #$%* do you get the idea youre about the only one that respects law enforcement?!? most of if not all of us do, it's some of the bad cops that we disrespect, NOT all police, just the individuals that tend to abuse authority. perhaps as you mature you'll begin to understand that. exactly like me saying most 25 year olds are dumbasses, which is totally untrue.

Your level of immaturity is obvious, some people never grow up and that's o/k it's just a fact of nature.  With little life experiences to learn from you didn't make the choice to be ignorant it just happened.  If you’d like to reference the information it’s referred to as the learning perspective, a known psychological fact. 
I didn't state that all people on this forum disrespect the law, only the people in this thread who constantly refer to our nation’s brave law enforcement officers as gutless pigs and other slanderous remarks they managed to come up with from their limited vocabulary.  It’s very funny considering these are the same people who call 9-1-1 as soon as bad things happen, yet these officers who everyone is bashing still answer everyone’s calls for help indiscriminately 24 hours a day no matter what. 

Reality check mate, i have just reread the whole thread after reading your comments and i think its you who needs to pull back a bit. No one is bashing "all law enforcement officers" and if you blindly believe that all cops are good you live in lala land.
Most if not all comments are based on what the unmarked cop did in his immediate response and to me it looks like he was panicking by pulling his gun before identifying himself, definitely not what he is trained to do . I can think of many situations where if that guy {cop} did the exact same thing he would have been shot and questions asked later.
I don't care who you are, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car and pulled a gun on me with no identification produced what so ever then i would have { or would have wanted to} defended myself and if that meant shooting first then thats what i would have done.......how was the guy on the bike supposed to know he wasn't being jacked, or being dealt with by some vigilante moron ?   I would love to know how much "maturity" you show under the same circumstance. The bloke on the bike was an idiot, i see no one here condoning his actions as far as what he did in traffic, what i see here is a pile of people reacting to what the stupid cop did, reacting without thinking or applying the procedures he was taught at the academy, if that cop chooses to do the same thing as he has done here, in the future,  i can guarantee you someone will eventually beat him to the draw. He was as stupid as the female cop in the video......poor gun security.  Blindly defending all cops is ignorant, the majority do the right thing but there are plenty of corrupt and cowboy cops out there just as there is here in Aus....

Mick

Well obviously as a disabled combat veteran I can pretty much guarantee I would handle the situation a lot more mature than you would, and my resulting action would not have ended in the capital murder of a police officer who was trying to keep other motorists safe.  Then again I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to evade from a marked unit while riding one wheel at 100 mph on a busy highway either.   

Argument from Authority
Adhominem
Appeal to emotion.

ALL FULL OF FAIL.

Want a special gold star sticker for your service? In case you did not notice it was JUST A JOB. If it defines you then you have a much sadder existence than I ever could. Next time we will use you as a battering ram and check with grandpa war vet before acting. Please provide a cell # so we can call you from road side should we need your supposedly infallible wisdom.

BTW - You are not the only combat vet in this forum. THERE ARE SEVERAL

[ElCheapo]

Pull a gun on me with no badge or lights to show for = getting your ass ran over. This cop is obviously out of control. He should be fired before he actually kills someone for not using their turn signal. For reference the cop was pulling thug for more than 2 seconds, plenty long enough to have a burn out done on your ass. Prove that I did know the guy I just ran over who had a gun was a cop. Won't stick.

If they play like this they will get hurt.

So the marked unit that would have been chasing you at 100 mph and was sitting right behind you wouldn't have been a major "CLUE" that the guy right in front of you is a cop too?  Any child can come to the conclusion that if a marked patrol unit with lights in uniform is behind you and an unmarked not in uniform is in front of you, obviously the guy in front of you is a cop also, especially if you had been evading down a busy highway.  I can't believe how many people in this thread think it's o/k to run from the police and get away with it.  It's mind boggling.

You arrogance appears here for no good reason. Of course I would have noticed the squad which is the one that should be doing the stop, not a thug with an unmarked car. Guess you missed that one too?

You use logical fallacies as often as a hooker uses condoms.

[patriotictex]

So, the question needs to be asked... how many of you broke the law today or yesterday? Come on, fess up. How many of you went over the speed limit? I mean even if it was 5mph. Because 5mph over is the same as 70mph over, just the fine is different. They are both over the limit and therefore, unlawful. The speed limit is set as what is a "safe" speed to drive on any given road in dry conditions. Now, if you add inclement weather, in most states, the laws require you to slow down 10-25mph below the limit. It's in the book you read to take your test. Anytime any of us go over the speed limit, we are placing others around us at more harm. So, the next question that needs to be asked... when was the last time you change lanes without signalling, no matter what speed you are traveling or if anyone is anywhere near you? If you don't, every single time, then you are breaking the law. Period. How many of you would expect in any of these situations for it to be normal for a police officer, uniformed or not, to pull a gun out of his/her holster at you for any of these infractions? You'd be #$%*ting a brick in your seat if they did, I bet.

Was the guy an #$%* for his riding? YES. He even videoed it just to post it so he could show off to his buddies and the world later on youtube. Was he breaking the law? YES. Did he deserve or warrant a gun to be unholstered at any time considering his hands stayed on the bars at all times? NO. The law for police officers is very black and white too. Keep it holstered unless eminent threat or danger is present. PERIOD.

BTW, patriotictex, I've had an inside look at our police for years and I can tell you this. No matter where I've lived, there were always "unwritten rules" that if something was occurring on a certain side of town or neighborhood, some of them they took their time getting there. Yes they are available 24/7/365 and yes they do put their butts on the line daily. But let's us not canonize them just yet, ok? They are human and have their own opinions on the general public. That opinion puts a shadow, good or bad, on how that particular officer handles the situation. Not one is perfectly good or bad. What that officer did was show his ANGER at the rider by pulling that weapon out of his holster without provocation. For that alone, he should get pulled out of the rotation for a while allowed to cool, minimum.

How about we have one thread around here that doesn't get into a pissing match and name calling, eh? Go ride and chill. 

I agree excellent post, too bad I have only found one person who has actually read my posts.  I never defended all police officers; there is a bad egg in every crowd.  However in this situation I would say the guy running from the police at a high rate of speed placing other people’s lives in danger is more a problem than a police officer drawing his weapon.  The officer even maintained proper muzzle awareness by not pointing it at anyone and never had his finger on the trigger.  For some reason everyone is very much on the side of the person running from a marked unit.  I can’t understand the mentality.  I can assure you that if you look at my posts I am possibly one of the only people who didn’t use one slanderous term in this entire thread unlike others who have.

[Laminar]

So, the question needs to be asked... how many of you broke the law today or yesterday? Come on, fess up. How many of you went over the speed limit? I mean even if it was 5mph. Because 5mph over is the same as 70mph over, just the fine is different.

Why is the fine different? Because the degree to which the law was broken is different, the response to that infraction should be different. Going 70 over could arguably cause much more damage than going 5 over.

They are both over the limit and therefore, unlawful. The speed limit is set as what is a "safe" speed to drive on any given road in dry conditions.

No. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

[patriotictex]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people. 

You smell that?

I smell a sawed off little runt piece of bacon... anyone else smell that?

Huh,……at 6’2” 230 LBS. I don’t think I look like much of a runt.  I love that internet tuff guy mentality you have, funny how I’ve managed to upset so many people by insulting them with my intelligence as I am the only one who has yet to use any slanderous terminology.

[patriotictex]

Well although the majority of you have no respect for laws and agree with the first guy breaking every traffic law in the book and putting the public in danger didn't deserve to be chased by a marked unit and stopped by the officers it's nice to see we can at least agree that this female officer is a darn moron.  Unlike ya'll i've actually been broadsided by an idiot on a crotch rocket which completely destroyed my truck and killed the guy on the bike.  So i'm going to still have to disagree with all of you that the guy breaking the law was the guy putting innocent lives at risk, not the guy protecting innocent people.  

where the #$%* do you get the idea youre about the only one that respects law enforcement?!? most of if not all of us do, it's some of the bad cops that we disrespect, NOT all police, just the individuals that tend to abuse authority. perhaps as you mature you'll begin to understand that. exactly like me saying most 25 year olds are dumbasses, which is totally untrue.

Your level of immaturity is obvious, some people never grow up and that's o/k it's just a fact of nature.  With little life experiences to learn from you didn't make the choice to be ignorant it just happened.  If you’d like to reference the information it’s referred to as the learning perspective, a known psychological fact. 
I didn't state that all people on this forum disrespect the law, only the people in this thread who constantly refer to our nation’s brave law enforcement officers as gutless pigs and other slanderous remarks they managed to come up with from their limited vocabulary.  It’s very funny considering these are the same people who call 9-1-1 as soon as bad things happen, yet these officers who everyone is bashing still answer everyone’s calls for help indiscriminately 24 hours a day no matter what. 

Reality check mate, i have just reread the whole thread after reading your comments and i think its you who needs to pull back a bit. No one is bashing "all law enforcement officers" and if you blindly believe that all cops are good you live in lala land.
Most if not all comments are based on what the unmarked cop did in his immediate response and to me it looks like he was panicking by pulling his gun before identifying himself, definitely not what he is trained to do . I can think of many situations where if that guy {cop} did the exact same thing he would have been shot and questions asked later.
I don't care who you are, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car and pulled a gun on me with no identification produced what so ever then i would have { or would have wanted to} defended myself and if that meant shooting first then thats what i would have done.......how was the guy on the bike supposed to know he wasn't being jacked, or being dealt with by some vigilante moron ?   I would love to know how much "maturity" you show under the same circumstance. The bloke on the bike was an idiot, i see no one here condoning his actions as far as what he did in traffic, what i see here is a pile of people reacting to what the stupid cop did, reacting without thinking or applying the procedures he was taught at the academy, if that cop chooses to do the same thing as he has done here, in the future,  i can guarantee you someone will eventually beat him to the draw. He was as stupid as the female cop in the video......poor gun security.  Blindly defending all cops is ignorant, the majority do the right thing but there are plenty of corrupt and cowboy cops out there just as there is here in Aus....

Mick

Well obviously as a disabled combat veteran I can pretty much guarantee I would handle the situation a lot more mature than you would, and my resulting action would not have ended in the capital murder of a police officer who was trying to keep other motorists safe.  Then again I wouldn’t have been dumb enough to evade from a marked unit while riding one wheel at 100 mph on a busy highway either.   

Argument from Authority
Adhominem
Appeal to emotion.

ALL FULL OF FAIL.

Want a special gold star sticker for your service? In case you did not notice it was JUST A JOB. If it defines you then you have a much sadder existence than I ever could. Next time we will use you as a battering ram and check with grandpa war vet before acting. Please provide a cell # so we can call you from road side should we need your supposedly infallible wisdom.

BTW - You are not the only combat vet in this forum. THERE ARE SEVERAL

There’s so much love going around in this thread.  I especially love your mentality as you obviously have no respect for the freedoms you have been given as an American.  Guess you’ve never been the victim of a crime, must be nice to have never had anything bad happen to you so you can choose to not be grateful.  I don’t want a little gold star considering I’ve already earned mine, but thanks.  My status as a veteran does not define me but obviously a person who has handled situations under fire for a living could handle this simple situation of unlawfulness in a more mature manner than a poge. 

[Duke McDukiedook]

Yeah I can pretty much look at this video and see that the moron on the motorcycle was putting himself and others at risk with his excessive speed on a busy highway while using no turn signals also.  To top it off he flew past a marked unit and was being followed by the marked unit afterward while he refused to stop until he came to the intersection.  But yeah I’m with the rest of ya'll who think all cops are bad and that the bad actions of one means they should all be persecuted.  God forbid they stop people who are a threat to themselves and others, too bad the officers didn't let this moron just keep going and get himself or someone else killed.  Its people like this motorcyclist who cause the public to think all people on motorcycles are law breaking outlaws giving us all bad names, but let’s defend him because he's on two wheels.

Look Patriotictex,

I don't know you from Sam Houston but when you go throwing around labels on people by calling them immature on this forum that are good stand up people like Bucky, my Irish blood gets to boiling. You show love on this forum, we'll show love back, kinda a two-way street thing. You wanna start off on this forum by throwing invectives at people and generalizing about the entire forum, don't be surprised by the trash thrown back at you. By the way, I don't think many people here defended the actions of Sir Squid in the video, kid is an idiot squid, period.

That does not give some undercover, half-cocked birdbrain an excuse to overreact and draw his weapon out on some squirrely kid for speeding and wheelie popping. You only draw your weapon when you are ready to inflict deadly force on a perp. Do you really think this situation warranted that?

When the police that are here to enforce the laws on the books start breaking them when they please, where does that put us all?
 

[patriotictex]

Well I'm just tired of arguing with people who have no life experiences to base anything off of, so I have chosen to conclude my involvement in this thread.  You should all stick to motorcycles and leave the laws to people who actually understand them and study them.  The lack of knowledge and overwhelming confidence you all place in your exceedingly ignorant comments is a fantastic example of people who failed to pursue further education.  I dislike getting into a debate with people because it is so often that I am unable to find someone who can have an intelligent conversation without resulting to youthful hatred toward others.  

I will close this argument with my final note in this thread.  I know beyond a doubt that someone will respond with another immature, ignorant comment because I have stated I will not reply.  I have stated numerous times in this thread that the motorcyclist was wrong, due to the circumstances it is obvious that a child could conclude that the plain clothes officer was indeed an officer because the motorcyclist was being actively pursued by a marked patrol unit which was right behind him at the exact moment the stop occurred.  In the state of Texas this is referred to as felony evading in a motor vehicle.  The majority of law enforcement agencies I am aware of have policies in place which require officers to draw a firearm when initiating a felony stop of a felony suspect.  As such this officer was justified in drawing his weapon.  This information was obtained by doing simple research and having a good understanding of the laws of the state of Texas.  I am aware that the laws involving felony evading are very similar in nearly all 50 states and as such can conclude that this officers actions were still justified.  These statements are not ignorant and are all based on "factual information" which was obtained through simple research which all of you have failed to conduct.  Isn't education a great thing?

[Industrial Cafe]

yawn

[Retro Rocket]

Well I'm just tired of arguing with people who have no life experiences to base anything off of, so I have chosen to conclude my involvement in this thread.  You should all stick to motorcycles and leave the laws to people who actually understand them and study them.  The lack of knowledge and overwhelming confidence you all place in your exceedingly ignorant comments is a fantastic example of people who failed to pursue further education.  I dislike getting into a debate with people because it is so often that I am unable to find someone who can have an intelligent conversation without resulting to youthful hatred toward others.  

I will close this argument with my final note in this thread.  I know beyond a doubt that someone will respond with another immature, ignorant comment because I have stated I will not reply.  I have stated numerous times in this thread that the motorcyclist was wrong, due to the circumstances it is obvious that a child could conclude that the plain clothes officer was indeed an officer because the motorcyclist was being actively pursued by a marked patrol unit which was right behind him at the exact moment the stop occurred.  In the state of Texas this is referred to as felony evading in a motor vehicle.  The majority of law enforcement agencies I am aware of have policies in place which require officers to draw a firearm when initiating a felony stop of a felony suspect.  As such this officer was justified in drawing his weapon.  This information was obtained by doing simple research and having a good understanding of the laws of the state of Texas.  I am aware that the laws involving felony evading are very similar in nearly all 50 states and as such can conclude that this officers actions were still justified.  These statements are not ignorant and are all based on "factual information" which was obtained through simple research which all of you have failed to conduct.  Isn't education a great thing?

Everything you have said is based on your assumptions and they are wrong, you also think that your the only intelligent person on these forums and that is laughable. You talk yourself up like you know everything and by reading your posts you obviously don't have a friggin clue what you are talking about.
If you had actually felt your way around before making an arse of yourself you would maybe have gotten to know which posts were "taking the piss" and which ones were serious, 15 posts and all you have succeeded in doing is making yourself look like a self centered self absorbed idiot.....Oh and by the way, if you think you sound educated you are just fooling yourself.....you sound ignorant.....

Great start to the forum mate.

Mick

[mick750F]

   Well, hasn't this all turned out bright and cheery? El Cheapo...in your first post back after a long absence...welcome back by the way...didn't you say you were going to play nice? And you patriotictex...14 posts and you're already ignored by 3 people?!?! Nice way to introduce yourself to the forum. Why don't both of you take a chill pill and work it out with pm's.

Mike

[edbikerii]

Tex, I read your posts and I agree with you.  I posted that once in this thread.  I feel that I've said my peace.  I've been on this forum a long time, and I'm finally learning that it doesn't pay to try to let them get to you.

[edbikerii]

BTW Tex,

Thank you for your service.  No, it was not "just a job".  Many of us appreciate the efforts that you went through.

Edward

[Retro Rocket]

BTW Tex,

Thank you for your service.  No, it was not "just a job".  Many of us appreciate the efforts that you went through.

Edward

Your right Ed,  but gloating about it and saying it makes him a better person and more mature is just crap and takes the shine of it for others, it makes him more qualified than who? 

Mick