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CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« on: January 30, 2006, 09:05:05 PM »
hello all.

I'm new to the forum.
thanks in advance for your help.
i have 3 questions.

1.  i was wondering if anyone had any experience with bolting on CB750 carbs on to a 1978 CB550.
-does it work?
-how did it work out?
-are the proformace increases worth it?
-any down sides to it?

2. I'm looking for an exhaust system or just the muffler, that looks similar to ones that are on Carpy's bikes.
-anyone know where i could find one?
-is it like running an open exhaust?
-is the noise muffled at all?

3. i was thinking of putting a Dyna S ignition on my bike to replace the points.
i was told that i should replace the coils too while I'm there.
-what do you think about the system?
-is it worth the change?
-are there any performance increases?

thanks again for your help.



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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2006, 09:48:43 PM »
Wow :o
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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2006, 09:54:02 PM »
He makes them. The last time I asked him he was selling them for around $600 or $700.. Kinda steep for my taste. I'm going with a Kerker, about $450 through Dynoman.

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 05:21:11 AM »
Don't know about the carbs, but I've got one of Carpy's exhausts (sort of).  It's stock 750F 4-1 pipes with one of his tips (wish I had teh yoshi style pipes too).  It's really f-ing loud, but it sounds absolutely great.  There's pretty much no baffling - just a little glass packing on the sides of the tip.  Other than that, it's a straight shot right through.  As an affordable option, he migh sell you just the tip if you've already got 4-1 headers (don't know about the 550 pipe diameter).  I got instant power gains in my midrange & there's an added bonus of scaring all of your neighbors as well.  I still haven't re-jetted, but after my cosmetic rebuild is complete, I'm going to go through the carbs again & do the plug chops the right way.

I've got a Boyer ignition system and I've got mixed feelings about it.  I could feel the performace gain right away, but I don't trust it's doing as much as it could because it doesn't seem to advance like my old points did.  I don't have any experience with the Dyna systems.

I'll try to remember to measure the inlet of the exhaust tip tonight so you can gauge whether it's a bolt on mod or not.

Good luck,
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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2006, 06:25:44 AM »
If you're going for something like this you can make it yourself if you already have a 4-1 header.  I made it out of a chrome exhaust pipe tip you buy at Autozone, slipped in a baffle wrapped with muffler packing.  I cut the baffle in half so it would fit better.  Eventually I'm gonna cut the header down so it doesn't stick out so far to the rear.

It's loud, but not as ear-splitting at the open header was.  I like it, and for less than $45 in parts it can't be beat.

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2006, 08:21:11 AM »
Good tip, Teach (pun intended).  ;D

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2006, 10:59:59 AM »
1.  i was wondering if anyone had any experience with bolting on CB750 carbs on to a 1978 CB550.
-does it work?
-how did it work out?
-are the proformace increases worth it?
-any down sides to it?

Rob Lloyd did this to his 550, and had mixed results. It didn't like idling, and wasn't easy to start, but there WAS a power gain to be had. The smallest jet you can get for the 750 carbs is a 35, and apparently even that is still too much; however, you can use a propane torch to solder the jet shut and then redrill it to an even smaller size with a wire size drill bit. Takes a lot of trial-and-error work to find the right size, but I think it could be done. You'll likely introduce an off-idle stumble unless you play with needle heights and shapes, slide cutaway shapes, and other technical stuff.
Personally, I feel that if you don't have any engine work done, you won't want the 750 carbs- they simply flow too much for an unmodified engine.

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3. i was thinking of putting a Dyna S ignition on my bike to replace the points.
i was told that i should replace the coils too while I'm there.
-what do you think about the system?
-is it worth the change?
-are there any performance increases?

The benefit to electronic ignition is not performance, it's reliability. You often hear the phrase, "set it and forget it" used with EI, for a reason- you set it according to the book, set the timing, and you never touch it again.
You CAN change the coils, but unless the EI requires a different coil value (many EI's require 3 ohm coils, points use 5 ohm coils), you don't really need to. Most aftermarket coils do have a higher output voltage than stock coils, so you can increase the plug gap which gives you a larger spark for more complete burn. Still not really a 'performance increase', but certainly a reliablility increase. Whether it's worth it or not is up to you.
Nick

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2006, 06:13:08 PM »
If you're going for something like this you can make it yourself if you already have a 4-1 header.  I made it out of a chrome exhaust pipe tip you buy at Autozone, slipped in a baffle wrapped with muffler packing.  I cut the baffle in half so it would fit better.  Eventually I'm gonna cut the header down so it doesn't stick out so far to the rear.

It's loud, but not as ear-splitting at the open header was.  I like it, and for less than $45 in parts it can't be beat.

How did you attach that muffler to the header? I have a similar setup; the guy that I bought mine from used an old spray paint can with what looks like steel wool as a baffle. I'm thinking I should replace that "muffler" with something that actually could pass off as a muffler. Did you just use a stock baffle?

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2006, 06:22:29 PM »
For now it's just on there using the set screws that are in the side of the exhaust tip.  I figure I'll need to do something a little more secure, but that's for later.

I ordered the baffle from my local Drag Specialties dealer...it's made to slip into 2" straight pipes you'd usually see on a Harley.

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2006, 08:21:45 PM »
I am very pleased with my stock carbs with #40 pilots and  #115 mains, and the dreded PODS, needle on second clip. Also  i can't say enough about  the dyna-s,coils and wires.
Rob Lloyd had a site on 550 Performance that was migrated to this forum somwhere, but I can't find it!  Thought it was in the FAQ'S....
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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2006, 09:28:52 PM »
For now it's just on there using the set screws that are in the side of the exhaust tip.  I figure I'll need to do something a little more secure, but that's for later.

I ordered the baffle from my local Drag Specialties dealer...it's made to slip into 2" straight pipes you'd usually see on a Harley.

Do you get any rattling from the baffle??

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Re: CB550 carbs ,carpy exhausts, and dyna S.
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 08:45:36 AM »
No, but mind you it's never been on the road and it's never run long enough for everything to get extremely warm (at least in it's current configuration.)