Topic: Who knows anything about boats?

[pdxPope]

You might think about this one, also:
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/1874155727.html

I also like this one a lot, but I'm partial to cutty cabins.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/1874143096.html

Of course if you really want to bite off more than you should, you can't go wrong with "free Boat" 
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/1875074701.html


(actually according to my wife the words "free boat" have caused more problems at the 'ol homestead than just about anything else....) 

-JP

[paulages]

wow, that free one really is a big bite, huh? maybe a little more than i need right now. both of the others look great. i like that the one in sherwood doesn't require an hour drive to see it, though the one in longview looks great.

hmm. i'd like to go look at one tonight, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to get together the cash on a sunday. i'll call you in a bit.

[Retro Rocket]

The "sherwood" boat would be the better boat out of those 3 for a "beginner boat" Larger boats can be a real pain in the arse to launch, especially if there is a cross wind, the smaller red boat would be a lot easier to launch and could be done with one person once you are familiar with the process. Its also a nice looking little hull and can be easily landed on a beach. If possible, take someone that knows boats well when you go looking..

What sort of boating are you looking at doing...Fishing, skiing, day trips?


Mick

[paulages]

What sort of boating are you looking at doing...Fishing, skiing, day trips?


Mick

yes. 

[Retro Rocket]

Then the smaller 16 footer with the 120 hp inboard should be good, although the inboard will restrict inside room. The 19 foot half cabin would make a great weekender and fishing boat but would need a huge motor to pull skiers out of the water and would definitely need a couple of blokes to launch. Just remember to look at the floor and transom for wet or soft spots. I still think the smaller boat makes a better 1st boat..

Mick

[333]

There's something to be said about a boat with a cabin.  It might mean camping without going ashore.

[Retro Rocket]

There's something to be said about a boat with a cabin.  It might mean camping without going ashore.

Yep agreed, i was just trying to find out what uses he had in mind for the new boat, cabin boats are great for fishing and day trips and even sleeping on if island hopping or doing an overnighter on the water but they are terrible for skiing unless they have a whooping  great motor hanging off the back which that one doesn't....They tend to pick up more wind when launching as well because of the cabin so there's a few things to take into consideration.......trying to help make his decision a little more informed....

Mick

[paulages]

There's something to be said about a boat with a cabin.  It might mean camping without going ashore.

Yep agreed, i was just trying to find out what uses he had in mind for the new boat, cabin boats are great for fishing and day trips and even sleeping on if island hopping or doing an overnighter on the water but they are terrible for skiing unless they have a whooping  great motor hanging off the back which that one doesn't....They tend to pick up more wind when launching as well because of the cabin so there's a few things to take into consideration.......trying to help make his decision a little more informed....

Mick

i'm less interested in skiing than anything else. the cabin is cool, but i want more space on deck. i like that the 16' is named "hot sauce." 

[seaweb11]

1st link not working now?

2nd link http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/1869200490.html
Just a couple of things to look at if you go and view that boat, or any inboard drive. They aren't cheap to work on.
 - 2 hydraulic trim tabs, do they function?  
 - 2 hydraulic trim tabs. There will be a gauge in the steering position that should show you what height the tabs are at.  Does it work?
 - The above will cost $$$ to make the boat function correctly.

 - Drain a bit of the legs oil and look at it. If there is water in there, walk away.
 - Looks like it has a speedo, depth sounder, and probably a bilge pump.  Make sure they work.

A free boat can most often be to expensive.  
It's tough that you want it all for $1000.00  

P.S. Never be afraid to take an ice pick and rubber hammer with you when looking at a boat.  The hammer will allow you to tap the hull and transom for hollow spots..."you will hear and feel it" ice pick for the inside transom to check for wood punk.

[pdxPope]

Paul,

New suggestions:

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/1876498087.html
I used to have a motor exactly like that little 35 and it was great.

A little bit more of a project, but a $2500 boat when all done.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/1875876849.html

Of course, for a little more $$ you get a little nicer boat thats all ready to go...
http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/boa/1876866114.html

-JP

[pdxPope]

Today's options-

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/1878002209.html
Rebuilt motor! Depending on what the outdrive needs, could be a good option.

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/boa/1877778647.html
Not too sure about the Renault engine, but it comes with all the 'stuff' you will need to have eventually.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/1877770027.html
Kinda ugly color, but probably good shape. I've bought stuff from the Sea Scouts before. They get boats donated all the time. If they say the hull is good, I'd be inclined to believe them.


-JP

[paulages]

Today's options-

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/1878002209.html
Rebuilt motor! Depending on what the outdrive needs, could be a good option.

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/boa/1877778647.html
Not too sure about the Renault engine, but it comes with all the 'stuff' you will need to have eventually.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/1877770027.html
Kinda ugly color, but probably good shape. I've bought stuff from the Sea Scouts before. They get boats donated all the time. If they say the hull is good, I'd be inclined to believe them.


-JP

i like the green color. 

i'll make a few calls this afternoon. i have the money now, it's just a matter of deciding on a boat. the beachcraft seems like a good deal, i'd just like to find out what work it still needs.

looking at the seaswirl... i like that one a lot, actually. i'll give them a call and see if i can find out more about it.

[paulages]

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/1878002209.html
Rebuilt motor! Depending on what the outdrive needs, could be a good option.

i talked to the guy a little about this one. he said it had about 12 hours in the water, when it suddenly sounded like i hit something with the outboard, and the power went out. he says it went to neutral fine, and reverse works, and after some research people told him it was the forward solenoid that went out.

thoughts? one $150 part shouldn't be too difficult to replace, but it would be good to know for sure that's what the problem is. if it's a solenoid, there must be an ohm test to determine if it's good, right?

[kirkn]

Walloped something with the outdrive, forward capability went out, and it's an ELECTRICAL problem?  Hmmm....  

Good luck with it.  I've been following this thread right along.  You guys sure have a different set-up and cost structure out there than we do here in FL.  Nothing that old, and nothing that inexpensive around here...

Kirk

[paulages]

Walloped something with the outdrive, forward capability went out, and it's an ELECTRICAL problem?  Hmmm....  

Good luck with it.  I've been following this thread right along.  You guys sure have a different set-up and cost structure out there than we do here in FL.  Nothing that old, and nothing that inexpensive around here...

Kirk

he said it sounded like he hit something. physical damage should be easy to see.

i'm waiting to hear back from the guy from the seascouts sale.

[paulages]

The forward coil for that OMC outdrive is $225, if that's the problem. the spring is $425...

[Grnrngr]

Just saw this thread....been on and around boats most all my life as well, including a couple years at the California Maritime Academy, I'd gladly tag along to have a look at whatever you might find interesting. Looks like you're on the right track to what you want but just as with bikes, you'll find much better deals in the middle of winter. Doesn't help with that "gotta have it now" feeling, but you might want to just check them out and test drive all summer...gets you some experience on the water and will give you a better idea of how different types perform. There are places at the coast where you can rent 12-14 foot outboard open boats to go crabbing in. FWIW, I'd stay away from 2 stroke outboards, I love them but many places are now banning their use, they're stinky and noisy, and put more pollutants in the water than 4 strokes. And they're getting harder to get parts for. If you're not interested in skiing, sailboats can be just as fun and the wind is free.....

[Retro Rocket]

FWIW, I'd stay away from 2 stroke outboards, I love them but many places are now banning their use

Older ones "yes" but newer ones are very clean and still cheaper than 4 strokes.  It would be great if you could help Paul out as there is plenty to look out for when buying a 2nd hand boat..

Mick

[paulages]

hey, thanks dave. actually john paul (pdxPope) just went out with me to look at a couple. that seascout boat was really cute, and is just about exactly what i'm looking for, but the engine looked far from ready to roll.

i just talked to the guy selling this one:
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/1873927500.html

he says the trim pump line dumped oil all over the inside of his boat, and he decided he was done with it. i really like this one though, and he says it runs and shifts great, though he's never actually had it in the water as he bought it from an estate sale. it has "$2500 worth of receipts for outboard work."

he says the pump itself can be had for about $150, and the line can't be much. this is over my ideal price range, range but might be worth it if it runs well. thoughts?

[seaweb11]

Receipts 
Every used boat comes with a bucket full of those

[pdxPope]

Well, it's nicer than any of the "almost projects" that Tweeker Steve (or whatever) was showing us...

Seriously, that looks pretty good. Allthough I think it's a little overpriced for a 40-year old boat that doesn't run. Hit him @ a grand, and see what he says. After all, it's just taking up space in his yard.

If you do go to check it out, make sure the windows open- otherwise you'll BAKE on a sunny day. Hardtops can be stuffy.

Call the guys at Fairview Marine Salvage, they should be able to give you a price on the trim pump.

http://www.bentboats.com/


-JP

[seaweb11]

Trim pumps $150.00 - $500.00
http://www.marineengineparts.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page62.html

[mark]

Today's options-

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/boa/1877778647.html
Not too sure about the Renault engine, but it comes with all the 'stuff' you will need to have eventually.

avoid this one like plague.

points, plugs, oil filter - no problem. anything else - unobtanium.

[BlindJoe]

but its got life vests Mark!!

[paulages]

Well, it's nicer than any of the "almost projects" that Tweeker Steve (or whatever) was showing us...

Seriously, that looks pretty good. Allthough I think it's a little overpriced for a 40-year old boat that doesn't run. Hit him @ a grand, and see what he says. After all, it's just taking up space in his yard.

If you do go to check it out, make sure the windows open- otherwise you'll BAKE on a sunny day. Hardtops can be stuffy.

Call the guys at Fairview Marine Salvage, they should be able to give you a price on the trim pump.

http://www.bentboats.com/


-JP

i think that guy thought we were supposed to be impressed that anything he had floats... wow, what a pile of crap he had.

i think i may go talk to him tomorrow with $1100 cash in hand (it's what i have right now) and see if he bites. i really like the boat from the pictures. actually, i'll probably call him and tell him that's the limit of my budget and ask if i should i should bother driving out, as it's a 45 minute drive.

regarding the hardtop... how many days a year could i possibly need to worry about too MUCH sun? it is portland after all... but yeah, i'll check to see if the windows open. i'll keep looking in the meantime, too.