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Offline chips1953

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What colour is HRC red
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:11:21 AM »
Despite the simple answer RED!, I want to paint a new fairing and tank for my 750F1 in the original Honda Red that they used on the TT and Race bikes. Is there a colour code for this paint?
I guess this is also the colour of the CR750?
Did several searches for the answer but nothing so far.
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 01:12:49 AM »
I use RAL 3020 for my HRC stickers and paint...
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2010, 07:09:08 AM »
Thanks.
Looked that up and it seems it's called Traffic Red.
Or even Signal Red!
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2010, 07:35:32 AM »
This is like the debate I had with my dear aunt about Fire Engine Red.

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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2010, 07:58:57 AM »
Quote from: chips1953 on December 14, 2010, 07:09:08 AM
Thanks.
Looked that up and it seems it's called Traffic Red.
Or even Signal Red!
Yeah - heard it called signal red before.
Incidentally if you want the correct silver too it's Honda Nobel silver...
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 08:43:11 AM »
You're such an pervert, sorry, EXPERT when it comes to colours (colors US)...so why did you paint your CR blue and green. ;D ;D ;D ;D How about a picture for the noobs that haven't seen one of the best. ;)

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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 09:44:25 AM »
Due to personal issues with colour perception it might as well be green ???
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 10:22:23 AM »
Ha ha, I have an origional pic of the team from Daytona and the quality of the colour prints from back then makes the CRs look as if they are 60s tank red. :D :D :D

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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2010, 10:24:47 AM »
Chip, look at the tank in my avatar compaired to that in Marks, the Daytona CRs were not red.

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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 07:16:28 PM »
The original HONDA red from '59 - '67 tends to fade orange if the bikes are left in the sun for a few years. I matched the color for both single and double-stage paint (red & silver) and could send you the codes...........or you could go to your local paint store and buy Monza Silver or Furgeson (tractor) Red and be very close for less $$$$. The trick to getting the paint color correct is the undercoat......on base-coat clear-coat red use a dull yellow undercoat..........on silver use standard light-gray or dull white.  If you want the red to be very bright and deep, use a gloss silver or gloss gun-metal gray undercoat.

Mark McGrew should have the color match for the copper-orange used on the CRs at Daytona.......... 
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 03:29:43 AM »
So, I think you're suggesting that I can use a candy silver base coat for the red, which would give a deep impression.
All good stuff.
I'll show you photo of the finished tank.
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 03:36:08 AM »
Quote from: SamCB750A on December 14, 2010, 08:43:11 AM
You're such an pervert, sorry, EXPERT when it comes to colours (colors US)...so why did you paint your CR blue and green. ;D ;D ;D ;D How about a picture for the noobs that haven't seen one of the best. ;)

Sam. ;)
You did ask for it Sam and those were nearly kind words too  ;D  ;D  ;D
I painted it blue and green (and black with a little mica) because...I didn't want to paint it in the RC red/silver, as far as I'm aware Honda didn't use those colours on a 750 although many customers do  and i is a very nice colour scheme t use and I didn't want a daytona orange bike because, well, that's what a lot of folks do and I'm never one to follow a trend (just ask my wife about my clothes!!)

So went for the earliest possible Racing 750 colour scheme, very 60's :D
At the end of the day though, each to his own, variety is the spice of life  ;)


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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 03:38:41 AM »
Man that screen looks big - glad I cut it down since these first shots but I can't post current pictures as it's in bits for its winter fettling now - ignition upgrade, exhaust changes, new plugs, clipon adjustment, carb sync take off addition, clean....the list goes ever on  ???
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 10:57:00 AM »
Chips1953.............Triumph used silver as an undercoat (primer) to achieve their bright paint finishes in the '50s and '60s. I don't paint but have been learning to get the correct ingrediants for my restorations.  BTW......if you spectograph old paint from the underside of a gas tank, the formula will include the fuel blend!
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2010, 11:45:45 AM »
I thank you for this information. I've been painting for a short time now and want to learn. The tank I'm using is an oversize tank made of alloy which I've modified to suit low bars and a fairing. I wanted it to represent what I remember of Honda when I was no'but a lad.
The history of the tank is unknown to me but as it is so over size he maker must have had long distances in mind.
I will put a photo up as soon as I can.
BTW the machine I have is an F1 according to some of the info from this site, a Japanese import with low mileage. Unfortunately after I'd got it viable someone reversed into it in a hotel car park.
Many thanks so far for the info.
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2010, 04:53:51 PM »
When HONDA painted over alloy, they used a brushed finish to hold more paint.  You may have to 'polish' your primer to get the bright effect.
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 07:54:34 AM »
When HONDA painted over alloy, they used a brushed finish to hold more paint.  You may have to 'polish' your primer to get the bright effect.
I propose to use a bar coat, which is yellow, then a light grey undercoat, twice, followed by a 2 pack candy silver base coat, with a 2 pack Monoco Red, finishing off with a clear lacquer. Not sure about decals at the moment. 
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 05:05:27 AM »
Quote from: weekend_junkie on December 14, 2010, 07:35:32 AM
This is like the debate I had with my dear aunt about Fire Engine Red.



Just like this green one
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2010, 09:39:22 AM »

You did ask for it Sam and those were nearly kind words too  ;D  ;D  ;D
I painted it blue and green (and black with a little mica) because...I didn't want to paint it in the RC red/silver, as far as I'm aware Honda didn't use those colours on a 750 although many customers do  and i is a very nice colour scheme t use and I didn't want a daytona orange bike because, well, that's what a lot of folks do and I'm never one to follow a trend (just ask my wife about my clothes!!)

So went for the earliest possible Racing 750 colour scheme, very 60's :D
At the end of the day though, each to his own, variety is the spice of life  ;)



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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2010, 03:25:31 PM »
The wonderful thing about motorcycles is that allow us to create what we want, and that they are magnificent, in the eyes of the beholder.
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Re: What colour is HRC red
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2010, 03:49:17 PM »
Quote from: chips1953 on December 17, 2010, 03:25:31 PM
The wonderful thing about motorcycles is that allow us to create what we want, and that they are magnificent, in the eyes of the beholder.

Amen to that Chips - some say my bike makes them feel sick.....I'm honoured to have created something that moves people so much  ;D
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