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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1275 on: August 15, 2017, 05:25:32 AM »
Yeah bikes don't make it to the front easily without those JMR decals.  ;)

Absolutely awesome weekend with the likes of Phil Read, Yvon Duhamel, Jimmy Allen, Michelle Duff and Steve Baker to name a few. The 50th anniversary celebration and banquet was fun to be a part of.

It was great to finally meet Marty Morrison (Rocketman) and although we didn't have a lot of time together, he & I follow such a similar path it's nearly laughable. 8) I hope you made it home ok Marty and that you enjoyed yourself. I see you made it on the podium!

We finally mounted a GoPro on the Honda for the weekend and once there is something to show I'll be back. I took a few pics with my phone of some of the racebikes on display in the VIP tent but I don't even know how to move those here now without photobucket.

Tyler had another profound weekend, especially on the Honda. Three wins and a second on a wet track. Plus did well on the Fizzer too.


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« Reply #1276 on: August 15, 2017, 06:04:52 AM »
He's doing you proud Brent, a chip off the old block as they say. haha.
Regards the photos you took with your phone, can you not load them into your computer under my pictures ?

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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1277 on: August 15, 2017, 07:11:56 AM »
Brent,

I thought these should go with the appropriate thread.

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« Reply #1278 on: August 19, 2017, 04:21:56 PM »
Thanks for the help George. Those two pictures are of my old boss who raced the original GP in 1967. These original riders rode some parade laps and Mendy did his on my bike. It was a bit of an honour for me because Mendy gave so much by way of sponsoring young racers back in the day so it was pretty cool having him ride mine.

Tyler took another second off his own previous lap record on the Honda. Three classes race together (P2 heavyeight, middleweight and P1350's) and in the video the two riders he battled with were Jeff Peters on his Rickman CB750 and a current CSBK pro on an RD. Jeff's a nice rider and I never had a chance to stay close to him so to see Tyler beat him shows how well he's riding the thing.

He's on the pole for the middleweights which is a curse when another class lines up in front. There is another vid form the P3 superbike lightweight but he got to the front early and doesn't show much.


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« Reply #1279 on: August 19, 2017, 07:23:30 PM »
Really nice video.  Go Tyler.... ;D

I'm glad he is really starting to like the old Honda. 

George

BTW, this is the Jeff Peters Rickman 750 racer(with an extra 200cc displacement engine) Tyler beat.  Both bike and rider are experienced and fast.   Very impressive Team Waller.
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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1280 on: August 20, 2017, 12:58:58 AM »
Fantastic video, he races well and charges hard.  204 most of the time in the long straight.  The bike is very powerful to accelerate so well and have so much power on tap...you guys have done a phenomenal job developing it.

Congrats to Tyler and the other racers, clean and safe... great results too!

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« Reply #1281 on: August 20, 2017, 05:41:25 AM »
Great video Brent....makes me very happy to see and hear some of my work help kick a$$. I have seen the future and its name is Tyler. ;) ;D ;D
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« Reply #1282 on: August 20, 2017, 08:41:04 AM »
Saturday afternoon Momma Nature arrived with a deluge of rain, winds & hail. The mid prod heat race was in progress on the 2nd lap when a rider crashed which brought out a red flag. In the VRRA an ambulance will not roll until all riders are stopped at a marshall station. While everyone was pulled off the rains came. When the marshalls finally allowed the riders back to the pits Jeff & Ty were at the beginning of the steep uphill straight and neither could get their bikes to light pushing uphill. They had to wait until all the riders came around then turn and bumpstart downhill. The Honda was sputtering heavily on the way back to the pits.

It eventually cleared and the sun came out and it was announced the race was to be re-run. We scrambled around drying foam filters, draining floatbowls in case water got sucked in, dried the ignition box & all connections and crossed my fingers...all was good.


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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1283 on: August 20, 2017, 10:47:34 AM »
Brent,

That was great! 2 reasons to be proud, the bike sounds fantastic and Tyler rides it to the edges very well.

Another great head by Mike!

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« Reply #1284 on: August 20, 2017, 02:42:05 PM »
Oh I don't know Jerry, it depends on the length of the race and circumstances I suppose. Following someone closely puts pressure on them to maybe make a mistake, but the same is true if you're being followed closely. Then if you're behind someone of a similar speed it can eventually take away the ability to see past and you fall into "follow me mode".  ;D Knowing there's a place you're faster can allow a last lap pass which is good if you don't trust the other rider or if he has an advantage somewhere else. 

I always found I could put my head down & turn a couple hot laps once I got to the front so that might be my preference!!

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« Reply #1285 on: August 21, 2017, 01:34:33 PM »
way to go bwaller's! so he is beating also all the trick gpz550s? not sure what runs what class in VRRA.
whatever, wins are wins, sounds like you guys took half of the silverware home :)

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« Reply #1286 on: August 23, 2017, 09:48:17 AM »
TG, here is an idea what races in our P3 Lightweight bump up class. early TZ250's CBX550's, KZ & GPZ550's, Pantah's and TT2's for example. Rain tires, radials, and even slicks are now allowed in the class, but as a P2 bike we're on our Avons.


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« Reply #1287 on: August 23, 2017, 10:26:46 AM »
when you say early tz 250s what year is the cut off ?

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« Reply #1288 on: August 23, 2017, 10:39:28 AM »
Good question, but probably the "J" model. I've seen a few in the class through the years but rarely.

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« Reply #1289 on: August 23, 2017, 01:52:28 PM »
thats a strange place to cut it off i would have thought it would have been with the g .
a good h or j [not much difference in them ] with a set of hummel cylinders should be the bike that wins that class .
a 250tz has a proper race frame makes 67hp and weighs just over 200lb, with a good ridder on it would be very hard to beat .


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« Reply #1290 on: August 23, 2017, 03:34:19 PM »
No argument here Simon, a well ridden TZ250 is a giant killer, let alone a bunch of street based 4 strokes.

I'll find out next time the cut-off model. I do remember getting by one on the last lap at Mosport....when he pulled off with a mechanical issue!


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Re: Let's go roadracing...continuing saga
« Reply #1291 on: August 23, 2017, 07:13:12 PM »
when you say early tz 250s what year is the cut off ?

P3 cut-off is 1982 Simon, so the TZ250J would be the last produced to be eligible.
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« Reply #1292 on: August 24, 2017, 09:48:04 AM »
i think a better cut off would have been 79 for the tz . the trouble with letting a j in is you can use allot of latter parts made for the tz500 engine which had a very long life in sidecar form .
dont worry though brent if i get any inquiries for tz cylinders from canada i will tell them to get stuffed !

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« Reply #1293 on: August 24, 2017, 10:12:07 AM »
Ha thanks Simon. The class cut-off is 82, but not sure individual bikes are all the same. Will check.

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« Reply #1294 on: January 05, 2018, 09:50:13 AM »
Uhh-Ohh. I've watched this tiny crack on the edge of the plug hole in the #2 chamber. I wasn't sure if it was right through because in years it never seemed to change. Now it leads right to the edge of the exhaust seat plus there is now a gap between the seat & casting.

Crap.
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« Reply #1295 on: January 05, 2018, 10:03:02 AM »
I bet that Jim French could weld that up successfully and then you can have it machined back flat. I'd opt for his micro-welding due to size and scale and precision of that area. Plus, you'll see less heat effected area with it.
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« Reply #1296 on: January 05, 2018, 10:30:48 AM »
Jim is a Jedi with stuff like this. If it can be fixed it would be him to do it. Assuming you have a pretty Penney in the head already it's worth a try.

Any other updates Brent? Changes for next year?I know we have discussed some on email. Many of mine are coming soon. You?
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« Reply #1297 on: January 05, 2018, 10:34:56 AM »
Not way ahead of you but I did send an email to Jim.

I always have changes in mind, but I still need this engine & head configuration.  ;)

Chassis wise...Bought a lightweight rear TZ disc, will mount on a front hub & wider rear rim, maintaining my minimal cush drive option. A few other minor changes in the works like relocating the ignition box to a "drier" area and enclosing that section from water infiltration. Every time it's wet there is no end of water & corruption that ends up in that under tank area.
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« Reply #1298 on: January 05, 2018, 12:30:03 PM »
You mentioned the TZ disc, I am interested in seeing how all that comes together.
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« Reply #1299 on: January 05, 2018, 01:50:51 PM »
Uhh-Ohh. I've watched this tiny crack on the edge of the plug hole in the #2 chamber. I wasn't sure if it was right through because in years it never seemed to change. Now it leads right to the edge of the exhaust seat plus there is now a gap between the seat & casting.

Crap.
oouch indeed... guess valve seats will have to come out to weld it properly...