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Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« on: April 28, 2006, 08:32:47 PM »
Well, Carpy's really hit the big time now!! :D  Nice 2 page colour spread and writeup of his Cafe 59 in this month's Cycle World.  Atta boy, Carpy!  Bike looks maaaahvelous!

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 08:51:08 PM »
is that the may or april issue? i have the may one, and i dont see it in there.

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2006, 05:44:43 AM »
is that the may or april issue? i have the may one, and i dont see it in there.

It's in the June issue. Gotta say the bike looks great! Great job Carpy.

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2006, 06:25:11 AM »
has anyone got a copy they want to scan and send to me?... if that doesnt conveine a law somewere that is...peace
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2006, 06:42:27 AM »
Thats cool.  Now his prices will be 50k for a custom 750 cafe bike :)
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2006, 06:53:50 AM »
Anyone got any pics of the article ?
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2006, 06:23:02 PM »
ok, i just got the june issue today. the bike does look very good in there. i've seen a lot of pics of it before, but those pro shots make it that much better.

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2006, 06:26:12 PM »
 A small shot of the bike is in the Cycle World limited "Sport Edition". The mag has a lot of Busa's in it. Thye editor has a column about "cafe" bikes and there is a small pic of a gold and black Carpy bike and a small quote from Carpy. Just FYI
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2006, 07:43:12 PM »
Try this.  Not sure if you'll be able to read the text, attachments having to be so small and all.

from May 06 issue of Cycle World..
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2006, 07:46:00 PM »
Here's the text side..
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 08:35:20 PM »
Well, good for Carpy, I guess.

To be completely honest, though, the whole thing makes me a bit nervous. The SOHC stuff is a lot of fun, made so partly by the relative obscurity in which we labor. I would hate to see the SOHCs become mainstream. We as individuals could go from doing something special to just being derivative, a la the thousand and one "custom chopper" shops all building the same bikes out of boxes.

Ah, but who am I kidding? There's not a dealership in the country that's willing to work on 30 year old Hondas and I don't think the typical OC choppers customer is the sort of guy who's willing to spend his evenings on his knees groping around in the filthy depths of an old SOHC.

So I'm thinking the average Cycle World reader is going to thumb through the Carpy write-up, maybe appreciate the lines of the pictured bike, and then go back to saving up for the "retro" Paul Smart Ducati or something, and the rest of us can go back to our REAL (thanks, ElCheapo) bikes!  :D
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2006, 08:42:26 PM »
Well done Carpy!!!
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2006, 09:05:08 PM »
Well, good for Carpy, I guess.

To be completely honest, though, the whole thing makes me a bit nervous. The SOHC stuff is a lot of fun, made so partly by the relative obscurity in which we labor. I would hate to see the SOHCs become mainstream. We as individuals could go from doing something special to just being derivative, a la the thousand and one "custom chopper" shops all building the same bikes out of boxes.

+ Friggin' 1!!!!!

Ah, but who am I kidding? There's not a dealership in the country that's willing to work on 30 year old Hondas and I don't think the typical OC choppers customer is the sort of guy who's willing to spend his evenings on his knees groping around in the filthy depths of an old SOHC.

So I'm thinking the average Cycle World reader is going to thumb through the Carpy write-up, maybe appreciate the lines of the pictured bike, and then go back to saving up for the "retro" Paul Smart Ducati or something, and the rest of us can go back to our REAL (thanks, ElCheapo) bikes!  :D

Most "Cycleworld" readers are more interested in the latest 'Busa mod or latest Plastic Fantastic CBR/YZF/KZ/GSXR instead of old steel-framed, wooly-handling, under-braked machines that took a MAN to ride to their fullest.  I think we're safe.  ;D

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2006, 09:17:48 PM »
Good Show Oh Boy as they say at the polo grounds.

Well I hope Carpy gets lots of buisness from that exposure.

I too am concerned about what it can do to our realitivly cheap bikes. I remember when Triumphs were cheap and I used to buy Harleys in the mid 80s for $800 to $1600. There was some place in Washington state that was building SOHC 750s as choppers for $10k. I have no idea if they are still around.

I like what Carpy is doing a hell of a lot better. I think $5k is a reasonable price what what he does. No, a damn good price.

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2006, 10:02:07 PM »
Ghoulie, we have got to get together some time.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2006, 10:09:00 PM »
And Fourplay, you're right: five grand is cheap for what Carpy's doing. My concern -- and it's probably not worth being concerned about -- is that if a whole horde of Cycle World readers get wood and decide they want an SOHC of their very own to screw up, it's going to make life a bit irritating -- not to mention more expensive -- for those of us who've already seen the light.

And I guess if we're going to get right down to the nitty-gritty, who are you more impressed by: the guy who spun wrenches on his own bike and turned it into HIS bike -- even if it's not exactly to your taste --  or the guy who just plunked down green on somebody ELSE'S effort?

All I know is that when I see one of the identical individualists on a "custom chopper", my feelings are closer to derision than anything else.

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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2006, 10:18:04 PM »
This might sound odd, but I'm glad to see the increased interest, because it puts more SOHC4s where they belong: on the road, instead of in a garage, rotting. Could be some old SOHCer's kid sees his dad's old 750 in the garage and gets an idea from the pics he's seeing in Cycle World. And I'd love to see some more custom bits being turned for these old things, alternator covers, forks, rearsets(!) etc.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2006, 10:29:43 PM »
And I guess if we're going to get right down to the nitty-gritty, who are you more impressed by: the guy who spun wrenches on his own bike and turned it into HIS bike -- even if it's not exactly to your taste --  or the guy who just plunked down green on somebody ELSE'S effort?

I actually met some guys riding chopped Harleys one day while I was filling up at a gas station.  They were old grizzled fellows and their bikes were chopped and customized panheads and knuckleheads.  Not quite my taste, but not bad.

One approached me and complimented my bike (400F). Said he had one for daily duty back in "the day".  I was taken aback.  I thanked him and then complimented his ride and said that he was riding a unique machine.  He smiled and said it was a panhead he bought back in the early fifties after he got back from Korea and he chopped, customized and maintained it by himself in his garage ever since.  I was impressed and told him so.

He agreed with me on my dislike of the new breed of "custom chopper" riders.  He says you don't pay for a bike, you build it with your own sweat, blood and tears.  He calls the new bikes "Checkbook Choppers" because some chump drops a check and has a "custom" bike.  He is personally insulted as he had to weld up his own hardtail frame 50 years ago and build the bike from nothing and he feels that people who buy ones from a custom shop are posers who have no right to ride with the real bikers.  He also said that any rider who rips on my ride for being foreign, small displacement or whatever is a loser who is compensating for other "shortcomings".

That guy was a REAL biker, as I think we are.  The plastic fantastic kiddies and new chopper posers are trying to buy into the culture and lifestyle.  You have to earn it with busted knuckles, oily hands, sweaty brows and the ability to troubleshoot and fix ANY problem in your machine with a minimum of hand tools.

Regarding Carpy's bikes, as much as I LOVE them, (and I do), I could never buy one.  I might steal some of his ideas, I might copy one of his bikes, but I would build it.  I would be the one to build up my Cafe Racer in my own vision.  Not someone else, even if that person is as bad ass as Carpy.  If I bought one of his bikes, I would be buying a Checkbook Chopper.  I would be giving someone else money to make my vision come to life without lifting a finger myself.  No, I cannot do that.  My bike may not be as good as Carpy's, but it would be mine, and you can lay money on the fact that I would spend the time to make it so.

(I actually found a bike of his that he built and I already wanted to build one EXACTLY like it, so would that mean that I was "stealing" his idea, even though I thought if it before I found it on his site?  Hope not, because I am going to build it that way anyway.)

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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2006, 10:37:58 PM »
Yes. Exactly. Perfect.

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(I actually found a bike of his that he built and I already wanted to build one EXACTLY like it, so would that mean that I was "stealing" his idea, even though I thought if it before I found it on his site?  Hope not, because I am going to build it that way anyway.)

Nah. I figure there's a lot of truth in the old "sincerest form of flattery" saw. I know I'd be flattered if someone stole a bike idea of mine.

OTOH, if he stole it and then paid someone else to do it for him, I'd probably shrug and walk away.

And if he stole it, paid someone else to do it for him, and then tried to portray himself as a tough-guy biker "living the lifestyle", I think I'd probably just giggle at him until HE walked away. :D
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2006, 10:41:05 PM »
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He agreed with me on my dislike of the new breed of "custom chopper" riders.  He says you don't pay for a bike, you build it with your own sweat, blood and tears.  He calls the new bikes "Checkbook Choppers" because some chump drops a check and has a "custom" bike.  He is personally insulted as he had to weld up his own hardtail frame 50 years ago and build the bike from nothing and he feels that people who buy ones from a custom shop are posers who have no right to ride with the real bikers.  He also said that any rider who rips on my ride for being foreign, small displacement or whatever is a loser who is compensating for other "shortcomings".
Man, that's just a beautiful paragraph. I'm going to drink a couple of beers to it tonight, and if my beer belly gets big enough someday, I'm going to tattoo it right on. :D
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2006, 10:44:41 PM »
Well, good for Carpy, I guess.

To be completely honest, though, the whole thing makes me a bit nervous. The SOHC stuff is a lot of fun, made so partly by the relative obscurity in which we labor. I would hate to see the SOHCs become mainstream. We as individuals could go from doing something special to just being derivative, a la the thousand and one "custom chopper" shops all building the same bikes out of boxes.

Ah, but who am I kidding? There's not a dealership in the country that's willing to work on 30 year old Hondas and I don't think the typical OC choppers customer is the sort of guy who's willing to spend his evenings on his knees groping around in the filthy depths of an old SOHC.

So I'm thinking the average Cycle World reader is going to thumb through the Carpy write-up, maybe appreciate the lines of the pictured bike, and then go back to saving up for the "retro" Paul Smart Ducati or something, and the rest of us can go back to our REAL (thanks, ElCheapo) bikes!  :D

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2006, 03:48:47 AM »
Try this.  Not sure if you'll be able to read the text, attachments having to be so small and all.
from May 06 issue of Cycle World..

You can post a much larger file to the gallery...  Good on Carpy!

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2006, 03:58:33 AM »
CONGRATS TO CARPY!!!!!!

Glad to see he's getting recognized for his hard work. Nice to see some Cafes getting some press time.....rather than Harleys and Sportbikes.

.......way to go!!

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2006, 04:03:35 AM »
Carpy's bike = DA BOMB!
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2006, 07:52:16 AM »
Yeah, it's a looker, that's for sure. What's up with the "Cafe" sticker on the tank though? That's completely ghey.

As far as the popularity of SOHC's taking off, and the 'Cafe' racer look, I've seen a rise in just the past 5 years since I bought my CB550. The PO had already started making it somewhat like a cafe, and I remember looking around on the net for info on seats and stuff like that shortly after I bought the bike, wondering how to get that racer look. It seems that you can find that stuff a lot easier now.
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2006, 08:01:43 AM »
I have had my bike less than a year (almost it's birthday) , and I have seen allot more shop/internet sites that are offering "cafe" style parts for these older jap bikes.

It's a good thing   ;D
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2006, 08:35:21 PM »
HELLO GUYZ
Man! I was so stoked to get in Cycle world.
I have been into my inline fours for nearly 25 years.
I was really suprised to get the spread.
iknow alot of you will say that the prices for our rides are gonna go up, but be honest, some bugger would of done it and to me, this is just part of my life.
not just a job, I live and Breathe cafe bikes and are all CB750's.
Like My SEELEY, I was so stoked to get that too.
Thanks for all the kind words, i have been so busy.

Did you Hear I now have an order for a Cafe from the band GREENDAY !!!!

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2006, 08:38:49 PM »
Oh yeah by the way.
The CAFE on the tank aint no sticker, thats old school gold leaf that I painted.
I got sick of pricks asking what sort of bike it was.
So i painted it on, it aint no sticker.
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2006, 08:51:49 PM »
Nice,  Rock on Carpy.   Cycle World spread is great.  Its probably been 30 years since a Sohc looked so good in that mag :)
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2006, 08:59:56 PM »
FWIW, Carpy, I've got nothing against you and I think your bikes are great. I hope you make a million bucks off this stuff.

And to tell you the truth, I don't really think you or Cycle World or Greenday are going to drive the price of the bikes up much if at all. I just honestly can't believe that there's ever going to be a lasting general market for SOHCs. Joe Average wants a cool looking bike, but he also wants a turn key bike that doesn't need any real maintenance and that he can simply drop off at the dealer for the occasional oil change. This guy ISN'T going to be happy with a thirty year old air cooled bike, I don't think.

By the same token, I guess I really don't think much of the celebrity biker thing. It's cool that guys with more money than time -- or ability -- can pay you to make a bike for them, but I guess I really do buy into the idea that if you're not wrenching on your own bike you're just pretending. Too many CEOs riding around on $70,000 choppers, I guess, but I'm just a little tired of guys who plunk down the American Express and ride out -- or trailer the ride out -- with a piece of the "lifestyle".

I don't know. I'm just whining about nothing important. Even if SOHCs did become the latest rage, "I've got mine", and can probably put up with Carpy posters, Carpy T-shirts, and Carpy SOHC bicycles for the kiddies for a few years.

So good luck to you, man. I hope you'll remember us little guys when you hit the big time!  :D
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2006, 09:08:09 PM »
And hell, bistromath might be right. If we look on the bright side, maye this will result in a bunch of people pulling the old SOHC out of the garage, trying to fix it up, giving it up as too much work and selling it for cheap. To me, for instance.  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2006, 09:46:41 PM »
That bike looks strangely familiar ;D

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2006, 11:31:19 PM »
And I guess if we're going to get right down to the nitty-gritty, who are you more impressed by: the guy who spun wrenches on his own bike and turned it into HIS bike -- even if it's not exactly to your taste --  or the guy who just plunked down green on somebody ELSE'S effort?

My motto is "Built not Bought". Even though it's painful and sometimes I want to give up and just buy a new bike, I keep on truckin. I'll be happy knowing that I have my blood sweat and tears in it. I like pulling up next to the guy who just plunked down a big chunk o change for a new bike and all the fixins. They know the score.

I applaud all of the people that are out there buying ready made custom bikes. Keep buying them. Make Carpy and all the custom bike builders rich. They put their blood into it, let them reap the reward. These guys are artists, and artists need patrons.
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2006, 11:50:28 PM »
I agree, more power to the Carpy's of this world, if he can make a buck out of someone elses unwanted bike, good on him.
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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2006, 06:18:13 AM »
Great bike - Great Builder - enough said.....

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2006, 07:14:37 AM »
My congratulations to Carpy. His bikes are some fresh air in the bike world.


Regarding our moneypits, you can expect a rise in the prices in the next 5 years. And part of the blame is ours. Becoming popular, these old bikes are started to be appreciated by the mainstream.

You know that you never recover the money you spend on a restoration, right? It's amazing how many 10 year old bikes are left to rest in any moment in time, just when they are not new anymore and are a little out-fashion. People never think about how much did they pay for it when it was new, it just gets covered and lay to rest.

Someday, 15 years later, somebody discovers it. If he spends 4 grand to restore it, no matter if he keeps it or sell it for less money; that bike has scaped from death and nobody will ever let it rot again. From that point the bike is not a piece of crap anymore; it's a survivor and all the organs that could be useful will increase the price.

If you want to make an investment in classic cars or bikes, you have to buy the ones that are about 20 years old, hide them and put them back in 10 years, when the rest has been converted into cubes of metal.

The good thing of a big mainstream is that companies will realize there is some business to be done with the spares, so it will be good for us.

The day before yesterday I took a ride on my CB750 and some people in the Terrace I was having an espresso asked me for it. They had not realized that the bike was old; what caught their attention was the odd licence plate. It is a "Historic" plate for old vehicles -as a side note, there has been only issued about 4 thousand in a country where about 1 thousand vehicles are registered every day. I explained them a little about the bike, what it was so old an important, and feel flattered that although they were not bikers they were listening in awe. That makes you feel good, at least from the point of view of spreading the bike culture and trying to remove the though biker stereotype.


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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2007, 03:22:24 PM »
I just got back from the Cycle World bike show here in Cleveland. I got to look at Carpy's bike up close. The worksmanship is top rate although it was leaking oil. I could do with less Cafe graphics, but overall, I wouldn't mind having one in my garage. It made me proud to be a SOHC4 owner. A lot of people seemed to take interest in the bike. There was also another 75 CB750 in the VJMC club section. It had black electric tape all over the seat. Rust on the spokes. It could've used a good cleaning. And people loved it. Guys were taking pictures of it. I heard someone say, 'I want one'.

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Re: Carpy's bike in Cycle World
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2007, 05:24:23 PM »
HELLO GUYZ
Man! I was so stoked to get in Cycle world.
I have been into my inline fours for nearly 25 years.
I was really suprised to get the spread.
iknow alot of you will say that the prices for our rides are gonna go up, but be honest, some bugger would of done it and to me, this is just part of my life.
not just a job, I live and Breathe cafe bikes and are all CB750's.
Like My SEELEY, I was so stoked to get that too.
Thanks for all the kind words, i have been so busy.

Did you Hear I now have an order for a Cafe from the band GREENDAY !!!!

Peace and Grease
carpy





AWESOME bike!

I'm glad to see fine creations such as yours....
Not quite what I wouold do to a SOHC if I were to be able to customize it the way I wanted...
But EXCELLENT cafe racer!!!

And congrats on the Greenday job!

l8r

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