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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2016, 03:53:31 AM »
Just going to start finishing the motor on the weekend and was wondering if you can fit the ace well speedo sensor to the engine drive sprocket.  Would like to hide the sensor wiring and don't really want to run the wires down the fork legs. Is this do able?

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2016, 04:25:34 AM »
It is and its a very clean way to do it.

I installed my sensor on a small piece of metal plate attached to the shift cover, pointing inwards. Its a trick Devin taught me  ;)
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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2016, 12:48:04 AM »
Bracket done for the ace well sensor to run off front sprocket. Quite simple when u think about it. Still allows plenty of room for the 520 chain. Will just need to make sure all electrics are well tucked away.

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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2016, 03:31:21 AM »
Problem with Motogadget. I activated the hazard function and both front blinkers flash and rear light flashes. Rear blinkers stay off but they are wired in tandem with fronts??? Deactivated hazard by holding both blinker button simultaneously for 2 seconds. Now front blinkers operate correctly but rear light still flashes. Rear blinkers dead. Checked ground for rears all good. Went back into menu set up and changed rear led to option b - no different. Put it back to option a. Still the same. Checked both blinkers directly to battery all good. Rear light is powered through aux. a bit stumped if anyone knows how to get it back to working.

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2016, 04:32:26 AM »
you're using momentary switches at the front?

Edit: never mind, went back and looked.

With TAIL wired to AUX, you have Brake wired separately too? If you are using and LED tail light, you can use a single wire configuration by wiring only through BRAKE (see 7.8.1 on page 10).

To activate/deactivate HAZARD, it should only require holding L/R buttons for 2". If yours is misbehaving, I think somehow you have the MENU setup wonky. Do your indicators function properly under normal operation?
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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2016, 10:10:32 AM »
Every thing was working perfectly prior to hazard mode. Now it is like it has had an internal rethink and moved rear blinkers over to the rear light. Both front and rear blinkers are wired in tandem to their respective left and right output. Rear light is from aux outlet. Brake is fed from brake. I went into menu to check and all settings are at their default setting. I tried moving to single wire light brake setup but still it flashes with the front blinkers. I'm struggling to understand how it can chose front blinkers only when the rears are wired direct with the fronts. On the unit when either left or right is chosen the correct light flashes, aux doesn't flash. I tried disconnecting the rear light to see if this would somehow move the power back across to the blinkers and it didn't. I will take a video and post to show what it's doing.

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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2016, 05:19:55 PM »
And are you using diodes to feed your gauge for the turn indicators?
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2016, 03:35:34 AM »
So earlier I read cals reply and feeling like a dick for something so simple I fit a couple of 10cent diodes. Helps because now the gauge indicator lamps are flashing left light for left turn and right light for right turn. Fixed yah!! Turn round to look at rear blinkers and still not working!!!! F%#k. Same problem the rear light is flashing but indicators are dead as... Sooo 5 hrs later after pulling wires apart adding and taking away more diodes, multi meter getting a major work out I found the ground for rear light and blinkers that I had combined wasn't getting a proper ground... Something so bloody simple gives such a headache. I freakin hate electricity. Can't see it can't touch it and able to make grown men weep.. Now I just have to clean up all the wires I've pulled. Stupid electricity!!!!

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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2016, 03:39:51 AM »
The life lessons we teach our young sons...  ;D
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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2016, 02:51:36 AM »
So all the wiring is now fixed, well grounded and working as it should. Rang the guys at the machine shop to see how they are going with the rebore and head work. "O yes sir we were hoping to get onto yours in the next couple of weeks"...

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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2016, 04:08:48 AM »
In a bit of a holding pattern until engine parts return. Fitted tank, seat and finished all the electrics. Brakes all hooked up. God I love the proportions of this bike. A big thankyou to devon@cognito for the design and hope he's not too pissed about it being copied. wish I had half the talent to see things before they are built. Everything flows like it was from the factory.

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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2016, 04:19:29 AM »
Imitation is the highest form of flattery-
I'm sure Devin would be pleased someone liked his bikes well enough to emulate them.
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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2016, 04:26:38 AM »
A bit of work needed on Benji bike tomorrow. New front wheel bearings went in on rebuild but 1 has nipped up and grinding a bit. Will clean up garage while waiting. no1 son won't stop sitting on this thing and grinning like a mad man. I went out to shed before and caught him sitting on it with chin on tank. He was doing the ton just sitting there. 

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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2016, 06:30:53 AM »
It looks like you used a DCC or Motolanna seat. Where did you source your taillight and how did you mount it?
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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2016, 11:52:13 AM »
It looks like you used a DCC or Motolanna seat. Where did you source your taillight and how did you mount it?

Good spotting. The seat is indeed motolanna. Purchased through eBay. Wanted the dcc version but they were out of stock at time of purchase. Seat required minor modifications to fit. I had to take 2" off the front and modify the underneath to allow battery to fit. I purchased the 8cell battery instead of 4 so sometimes we need to modify things to make it all come together.  Rear light is a cheap unit again from eBay. The licence plate holder is original Cognito moto.

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Re: Next generation of petrol head is underway!!
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2016, 12:49:22 PM »
It looks like you used a DCC or Motolanna seat. Where did you source your taillight and how did you mount it?

Good spotting. The seat is indeed motolanna. Purchased through eBay. Wanted the dcc version but they were out of stock at time of purchase. Seat required minor modifications to fit. I had to take 2" off the front and modify the underneath to allow battery to fit. I purchased the 8cell battery instead of 4 so sometimes we need to modify things to make it all come together.  Rear light is a cheap unit again from eBay. The licence plate holder is original Cognito moto.

Looks good.  How did you modify/re-secure the seat upholstery -- staples?
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2016, 11:28:17 PM »
Seat modifications were pretty easy. The upholstery was glued down so it peeled back with minimum of fuss then in with the grinder and trimmed the nose off. I was then able to use all the over hang of upholstery and pull it tight before sticking it back down with contact glue. A few rivets with washers attached so as to grip more of the upholstery were then placed around the edges. I had to cut out part of the seat hump  to give me room for the battery to fit. We cut out a section of the foam leaving enough so as not to be able to feel it through the seat when sitting on it. Made a new fibreglass indent that the battery now sits nicely in.

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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2016, 11:43:58 PM »
Spent most of the weekend giving no1 son driving lessons. Passed his learners no problems. Did a bit of remedial work on benjie bike front bearings needed replacing. One Was completely shot. Flopping all over the place. Over tightened the axle nut first time around. There was a bit of a break in the weather this arvo so went for another shake down ride. Did a clean 100klm with no problems. Really statTing to free up now. Hard to wipe the grin off when riding.  I'm looking round for a suitable backdrop to get a professional photo shoot done on the bikes. Found this door next to a cafe. Not sure yet but will keep hunting. Good coffee from the cafe tho! That was a bonus was only 7celcius today.
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« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2016, 10:56:44 PM »
 :) who got a phone call from hpe performance today! Head and cylinders all finished and ready to install. External lines came up a treat. I love when passionate people do a stunning job. Well that's the weekend taken care of.

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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2016, 02:19:42 AM »
I had already resealed cases when I was deciding to do external lines. After a bit of study and talking to several people I went with grub screws in head and drilled and tapped case to barrel dowels fitting 8mm grubs. Plenty of loctite so they don't move. I think it was turboguzzi who did the same.

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« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2016, 02:54:28 AM »
Started fitting pistons and couldn't get grudgeons in far enough. A quick check showed they were too long. A bit strange I thought. Anyway off to work to borrow engineers lathe. No 1 son now knows how to trim on a lathe. Had to remove 3.5mm to get them to fit. Started fitting valves. Only got 2 done before ran out of time. Not enough hours in the day at the moment. Rest will have to wait till tomorrow

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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2016, 04:13:42 AM »
Valves all done. New webcam hard welded rockers installed. Tacho blank off plug fitted. Oil cooler arrived today. Need to organise lines and make up a bracket to fit to frame. Need more hours...running out of time!!!

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« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2016, 10:49:29 PM »
so a lot can happen in 11 days. started installing pistons and snagged oil ring on no3!! #$@##$. Dynoman replacement arrives 5 days later. being bright I got 2 sets just in case. While waiting I finished off display floor for the upcoming show. Had to plane sides of planks and stupidly took top of index finger off. luckily only had the planer set at 2.5mm.... Index finger now 2.5mm shorter!! trip to emergency and they glued it back together. inbetween work entered the NZ Pie competition and we won a gold. quick trip up to Auckland to receive the award and then back home. so finally get up this morning and into it..2nd ring in no2 snagged..$#**&!!! slow down and coffee time to regroup. eventually everything comes together and motor is all buttoned up. This thing is fighting us at the moment.. anyway we install the motor into the frame in the morning. now what could go wrong with that!! 

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« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2016, 10:58:16 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2016, 12:17:33 AM »
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