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Offline Sam Green Racing

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2009, 05:37:52 PM »
Scun says sitting in pub, must remember to PM Sam and ask why he hasn't posted in my project thread.
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2009, 08:02:03 PM »
Sam, I'm not sure how to respond to that shamefull remark about my character. I've been to the pub(it's bloody hot here) but sadly didn't think about you and your impending snow flurries  ;D
but thank you for your concern, it shall make my return there later tonight a far more rewarding experience  ;)
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2009, 09:08:01 PM »
It's the first time I have seen it old bean. :D :D :D :D

Looks cool apart from the tank riding a little high at the front.

By the way, It's a Brit tank called the Motorway Tank, can't remember the company that made it though.

I had one on my Yamaha RD 250 in the early 60s.

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CB95 hybrid race bike
CB95 race bike
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2009, 01:36:06 AM »
Looks damn cool bro, if a bit uncomfortable! ;D
That 4 into one looks like the same one I had on my old cop bike when I got it, the noise is amazing.....but I'm learning to live with the beautiful low rumble from 4 into twos. :D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2009, 08:06:18 PM »
new rubber, Battle axe 45 120/90 18 rear, Battle axe 39F 100/90 19 front
thanks for the info on the tank Sam, new it was from late 60's early 70's
seat will have to get used to my arse Hush, altho I have some high density foam to go on this weekend, used it on my race bike back in the 70's and never felt a thing.  ;D
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past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2009, 09:05:35 PM »
I meant early 70s not 60s, think I need a drink ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sam. ;)
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2009, 09:12:15 PM »
whats in a decade or two Sam ?
leave the drinking to me, I'm good at it  ;D
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2009, 09:54:37 PM »
I'll bet I could give you a run for your money ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I woke with a bit of a thick head one Sunday, Chris was banging on the door as we had aranged to do some work on his bike.
We got through the work and I couldnt think why I felt so rough as I'd only had 6 pints the night before.
We came into the house and I put the kettle on for a brew and I noticed a bottle and a half of whisky was not where it was the day before, both bottles were in the bin, EMPTY. :D :D :D :D :D :D

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CB95 hybrid race bike
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2009, 10:27:26 PM »
well I appear to have sprung a leak on the shifter seal, happy that's the only spot. pods duly arrived and provided hours of fun times finding a way to avoid the choke mechanism, had to make spacers to move the 2 inner pods out of the way. strangely the bike runs better with the added restriction, it seems as tho the vacuum has an effect on the float height........... or I've gone stark raving mad.  :D
Sam, save me some of that whisky, bugger you greedy bastard drunk it.
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2009, 10:51:57 PM »
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2009, 06:56:19 PM »
shifter seal still walking to NZed from Japan.........
accelerator pump leaks at the bowl carb body union, going to use some threebond on that little bugger if only to prove it's the seal, no-one seems to have that size in the south pacific.
Pub open  ;D
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2009, 02:33:42 AM »
Why do those Battle Axe rears always remind me of front tires? ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2009, 07:55:01 PM »
that's because my back wheel will be in front of you  ;D
well installed the shifter seal and took the bike for a spin, we have a leak still.
found the bike stumbles a bit higher up the rev range so will have to experiment with the jet size. anybody running pods on a 650, I'm going to start at 105 and go from there.
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2009, 09:42:20 PM »
I'm going to start at 105 and go from there.

Is that ten to five or five past one Scun, what ever time you start, make sure, it don't clash with the pub opening time.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2009, 09:58:21 PM »
how dare you imply that my playing around in the garage will impinge on my drinking time.
and by the sound of it you might need to go to 105 yourself Sam  ;D
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2009, 05:47:32 PM »
finally got some garage time and drilled my spare set of main jets out to 105, cleaned my petcocks and intank filters. adjusted the float heghts and generally had a good time  ;D
POD REPORT ......... 105 has finally got the bike up onto the cam and carrying the front wheel delicately off the ground  ;D
need to do some plug chops to check things but I'm in the ballpark
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2009, 09:33:42 PM »
Sounds like the bike is coming along nicely, just in time for the non riding weather ha ha.
I'm having top end speed issues, plenty of take-off and around town oomph but open road and she is struggling and topping out in the 60mph area?
Any ideas?
My partner blames the 91 petrol I filled up with, did seem peppier with 95 in it.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2009, 11:51:13 PM »
I'm running 91. if your topping out at 60 you've got a major problem. have you tried running and slowly pulling the choke to enrich your mixture, then going without the air filter to lean her out. if either of those don't improve your top end I would question wether your advance is working.
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2009, 02:15:22 AM »
These bikes have an advance mechanism?
I thought it was all pulse generators and sealed print circuits!!

I have been running with the air filter cover off but just put it back on today to see if that was the problem, so its been getting plenty of air.

Edit: hang on I do remember reassembling something similar to an old weights spring advancer, it's behind the pulse generators, damn I better check that out, I'd completely forgotten about such things, thanks Scunny.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2009, 02:18:43 AM by Hush »
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2009, 09:29:04 AM »
Yeah hush, the advancer on almost all the 650's I've had needed to one extent or another the advancer cleaned and lubed..


I saw 2 that were literally frozen solid, giving top speed of somewhere near 70mph.(downhill tucked into the bike good)



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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2009, 11:52:23 PM »
Jeez louise I clear forgot we had these ancient balancing contraptions?
Anyhow Scunny, cheers for the heads up, found it all dry and rusty (don't ask I'm embarressed enough already) so removed it from bike and split it into all it's different parts then cleaned and lubed them all.
I'm quite proud of the fact that I didn't need to figure out the timing as I put it all back together in same spot.
Redid the timing chain tension as well while I was in there, ended up with a quiet bike that had much more torque, only got up to 50mph tho cos damn cross wind and rain but def felt better.
Cheers again mate. :)
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2009, 01:55:06 PM »
no problem Hush. I've just got to keep reminding myself to go easy on the new motor for a wee while longer.
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2009, 07:28:40 PM »
Shouldn't be hard mate, snow down your way isn't it?
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2009, 10:01:19 PM »
just a dusting on the hills, a good frost this morning so we had a nice sunny day
past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
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Re: CB650 retro-racer
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2009, 06:01:15 PM »
since we all like pics, added some side covers and cleaned up the rearsets

past-cb100,ts250,cb500,cb500,gs1000,gs650g.phillips traveller
present-CB 650 retro
            VTR1000F3
           XL250S riverbed rocket
           TS250[sold]
           TS185[sold]
           XL125S[sold]
           MT50 (white)
           MT50 (red)[sold]
           KN250/XS400 project
           XR/XL250 bitsa under construction
           SL100[sold]
           XL250R
           pedal(pub bike) leaks oil
my gallery http://gallery.sohc4.net/members/personal/scunny