Author Topic: "Little Horse," and "Little Dragon" the war of the 500's  (Read 127815 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Lefthook

  • I always thought a SOHC was a Ford....
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 41
    • TEHdriven
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #225 on: March 23, 2010, 03:18:48 PM »
Left hook, you live pretty close to me. I was out in the Bald Peak Lauralwood area saturday.

I work out in Hillsboro, just within a stone's throw of the Ronler Acres campus.  Depending on my route home, I drive through there just about every day.

I'm buying parts to put my cb750 together.. I might be interested in buying a steering stabilizer from you.   ;)  If you're interested in building some parts.  I think the 550 and 750k3 front forks are the same geometry.... not sure.

Offline syth82

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 401
  • 1976 cb550f project
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #226 on: March 23, 2010, 05:44:47 PM »

Tachs generally speaking are fairly accurate, as opposed to speedometers.  A revolution of a magnet passing a brush is one revolution, period.  Each rev is counted.  Pretty difficult to get that out of calibration very far.

But these bikes have mechanical tachs...
-Luke


By trying to make yourself sound intelligent you appear to be #$%*in stupid......

Offline Little_Horse

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 655
    • My cafe build
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #227 on: March 23, 2010, 07:50:25 PM »
Left hook, I would be more then willing to build a fork brace (I think that is what you meant), or help fab anything else you might need, just let me know.

As far as the speed thing, since I have a seperate speedo reading at 110 and a tack reading from my bike coming in at very close to that I am going to call it close enough, sure it might be off some but aren't we splitting hairs here. I wasn't claiming of a breaking any records, the bike should be able to do it and it did.
"Little Horse Cycles" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Horse-Cycles/185809474769493

LHC is my start up cafe racer shop specializing in custom parts, bikes, restoration and recreation

The 500 builds http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64250.0

Offline syth82

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 401
  • 1976 cb550f project
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #228 on: March 24, 2010, 06:41:58 AM »
Oh yeah, congrats on making the ton. ;)
-Luke


By trying to make yourself sound intelligent you appear to be #$%*in stupid......

Offline Lefthook

  • I always thought a SOHC was a Ford....
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 41
    • TEHdriven
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #229 on: March 24, 2010, 08:36:27 AM »
Left hook, I would be more then willing to build a fork brace (I think that is what you meant), or help fab anything else you might need, just let me know.

As far as the speed thing, since I have a seperate speedo reading at 110 and a tack reading from my bike coming in at very close to that I am going to call it close enough, sure it might be off some but aren't we splitting hairs here. I wasn't claiming of a breaking any records, the bike should be able to do it and it did.

I will probably take you up on that.  The frame is being sandblasted tomorrow and am going to start mocking things up in the next couple of weeks.  Debating on whether I want to have a set of knee dents put in a stock tank or whether I want a fiberglass Dunstall tank... the idea of draining gas out of it after every ride isn't that appealing with a FG tank..   :-\

Offline paulages

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,876
  • 1976 cb735
    • DOOMTOWN RIDERS P.R.M.C.
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #230 on: March 24, 2010, 09:33:00 AM »
Debating on whether I want to have a set of knee dents put in a stock tank or whether I want a fiberglass Dunstall tank... the idea of draining gas out of it after every ride isn't that appealing with a FG tank..   :-\

that's why you seal it.  ;)
paul
SOHC4 member #1050

1974 CB550 (735cc)
1976 CB550 (590cc) road racer
1973 CB750K3
1972 NORTON Commando Combat
1996 KLX650 R

Offline Lefthook

  • I always thought a SOHC was a Ford....
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 41
    • TEHdriven
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #231 on: March 24, 2010, 09:46:10 AM »
Debating on whether I want to have a set of knee dents put in a stock tank or whether I want a fiberglass Dunstall tank... the idea of draining gas out of it after every ride isn't that appealing with a FG tank..   :-\

that's why you seal it.  ;)

what I keep reading is that the KREEM or whatever sealant you choose doesn't last forever...  ???

Offline scroggins5000

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 239
    • scroggins5000.com
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #232 on: March 24, 2010, 10:23:25 AM »
Id' stick with a metal tank, unless of course it's for the track. Maybe I'm just old school... even though I'm only 26. Haha.

Offline Little_Horse

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 655
    • My cafe build
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #233 on: March 24, 2010, 10:30:35 AM »
I too would say stick with the original, but modify to your hearts content.
"Little Horse Cycles" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Horse-Cycles/185809474769493

LHC is my start up cafe racer shop specializing in custom parts, bikes, restoration and recreation

The 500 builds http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64250.0

Offline Lefthook

  • I always thought a SOHC was a Ford....
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 41
    • TEHdriven
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #234 on: March 24, 2010, 01:42:35 PM »
I too would say stick with the original, but modify to your hearts content.

my metal tank is ROUGH.  I would probably have to buy another one, or spend some pretty good coin on getting it fixed.

Offline scroggins5000

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 239
    • scroggins5000.com
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #235 on: March 24, 2010, 02:00:07 PM »
I too would say stick with the original, but modify to your hearts content.

my metal tank is ROUGH.  I would probably have to buy another one, or spend some pretty good coin on getting it fixed.

Practice on your beater first, and if really screw it up just buy a new one.  ;D

Offline Lefthook

  • I always thought a SOHC was a Ford....
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 41
    • TEHdriven
Re: "Little Horse," Yet another cafe bike build
« Reply #236 on: March 24, 2010, 02:20:32 PM »
I too would say stick with the original, but modify to your hearts content.

my metal tank is ROUGH.  I would probably have to buy another one, or spend some pretty good coin on getting it fixed.

Practice on your beater first, and if really screw it up just buy a new one.  ;D

LOL.  I'm eventually going to do something with this tank, but this won't be the last cb that I build.. my pops wants one too.   ;D




Offline Little_Horse

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 655
    • My cafe build
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #237 on: April 16, 2010, 11:11:54 AM »
I didn't feel like starting another thread and since it is not a SOHC I will put it in here so maybe the mods don't find out :o.

Its for my sister a 78 cx500 I am going for a more modern looking cafe where as Little Horse was more traditional in appearance. Anyways here a few shots of the project, I am shooting to keep the build cost under $1000 and finish no later then June. Purchase price was $400 she was running with title.




"Little Horse Cycles" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Horse-Cycles/185809474769493

LHC is my start up cafe racer shop specializing in custom parts, bikes, restoration and recreation

The 500 builds http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64250.0

Offline Frankenkit

  • Industrial Strength
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,525
  • 2012 CBR250R, 72 CL350, Member #4600
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #238 on: April 16, 2010, 11:16:55 AM »
LOVE the monoshock!!!!!
"Moderation in all things - especially moderation. Too much moderation is excessive. The occasional excess is all part of living the moderate life."
2012 CBR250R "Black Betty"
1980 CB650c- (sold) Delilah
1973 CL350- Lola?
Sweet, bubbly, Buddha - Say it ain't so!!!
Stuff for sale

Offline Industrial Cafe

  • Like a well oiled
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,372
  • [Brian] I've got something to say about that!
    • Undead Asphalt
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #239 on: April 16, 2010, 11:27:20 AM »
taking notes, gathering intel.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


                                    Marla              .:71CB750:.CAFE

Offline Laminar

  • Retsam
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,632
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2010, 01:23:54 PM »
I take it you've done the calculations and know that shock/spring position is appropriate?

And that you've looked into the water pump seal and stator?

Offline paulages

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,876
  • 1976 cb735
    • DOOMTOWN RIDERS P.R.M.C.
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2010, 02:52:27 PM »
i've always thought a cx500 could be done nice and made to look like a sporty euro-style guzzi, given that you do what you've done and lose the whole stock subframe. could be a really cool project.
paul
SOHC4 member #1050

1974 CB550 (735cc)
1976 CB550 (590cc) road racer
1973 CB750K3
1972 NORTON Commando Combat
1996 KLX650 R

Offline Little_Horse

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 655
    • My cafe build
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2010, 03:04:00 PM »
yeah the stock shock was just to prove the idea could work, not to get it to work. I have ordered a more appropriate spring for the job. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't bind or anything like that. I left it on to help inspire me with the rest of the look. I am planning on copying one of the moto guzzi exhaust designs. I should post a pic. So this is a poor man's guzzi done my way, a little practical but still a little crazy.

I will continue to update as things go along, I do have one question for those of you who might know. Is 5.2 amp hours enough to run the starter? I am not even sure what the stock battery is.
"Little Horse Cycles" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Horse-Cycles/185809474769493

LHC is my start up cafe racer shop specializing in custom parts, bikes, restoration and recreation

The 500 builds http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64250.0

Offline Industrial Cafe

  • Like a well oiled
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,372
  • [Brian] I've got something to say about that!
    • Undead Asphalt
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #243 on: April 18, 2010, 07:51:40 AM »
I think you need to look at the CCA and keep it between 160-190

they make some that are half the size of a stock battery, but I can't find them now.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


                                    Marla              .:71CB750:.CAFE

Offline Little_Horse

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 655
    • My cafe build
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #244 on: April 18, 2010, 08:28:53 AM »
problem is for those drill batteries the don't list cca since that's not it original purpose. I will probably have to try it and see what happens, if I have to I could always loop in three. Which would not weigh any less then the smaller standard battery but they are easier to hide.
"Little Horse Cycles" facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Little-Horse-Cycles/185809474769493

LHC is my start up cafe racer shop specializing in custom parts, bikes, restoration and recreation

The 500 builds http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=64250.0

traveler

  • Guest
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #245 on: April 18, 2010, 08:32:07 AM »
Orient Express is where I got mine.

I need to charge it back up today.....killed it trying to start my bike yesterday. >:(

~Joe

traveler

  • Guest
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2010, 08:33:52 AM »
Just my .02....

A CB750F tank and the seat frame section coming back straight instead of an upward angle, would look much cleaner.

Just a thought.

~Joe

Offline theofam

  • I'm cold, give me a
  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 598
  • Suffering from MDD - Mechanical Deficit Disorder
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #247 on: April 18, 2010, 01:43:05 PM »
I'm diggin' what you've done to clean up the rear end.  Also anxious to see how the monoshock works out. I like how you incorporated Little Horse's dummy lights idea in to the CX's triple tree - very clean.

Have you decided whether or not you'll continue the cowl's carbon fiber forward on the bike?  I'm still rooting for carbon fiber in the knee dents!

Offline Frankenkit

  • Industrial Strength
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,525
  • 2012 CBR250R, 72 CL350, Member #4600
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #248 on: April 18, 2010, 01:59:17 PM »
It was really neat following you on su Caballito in those tight turns.  it was like watching poetry in motion.  Looking forward to seeing this CX pan out the same way. :D
"Moderation in all things - especially moderation. Too much moderation is excessive. The occasional excess is all part of living the moderate life."
2012 CBR250R "Black Betty"
1980 CB650c- (sold) Delilah
1973 CL350- Lola?
Sweet, bubbly, Buddha - Say it ain't so!!!
Stuff for sale

Offline Hush

  • Finally they realise that I am an
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,761
  • "Lady, I've heard it all before"!
Re: "Little Horse," and my next project the cx
« Reply #249 on: April 18, 2010, 02:08:54 PM »
CX500, damn I hope your electrics hold up for your sister.
These bikes have massive stator failure rates and unfortunately the whole motor has to come out to fix them as it is situated at the rear of the engine just in front of the back wheel.
Maybe you could moderate this problem by making sure as you build that the engine is an easy thing to lift out for the future.
Cool mods. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!