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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #475 on: June 23, 2013, 07:10:28 AM »
Still doing some final touches and wanted to check the timing.

First thing I had to do was to solder up a test light. I have a bunch of instrument bulb wire harness and some old bulbs. Perfect.

Remove the alternator cover and points cover. Set points @ .014. I marked the points plate at it's current position. Rotate the crank to the "F" mark. This is where the light (points open) should come on.

You can see the bulb is lit. Timing mark @ "F" mark.



The light actually lit way before the "F" mark. To far advanced.

Rotate the points plate clock wise (retard) and get the light to come on right at the "F" mark. Rotate again.

As you can see in this picture just how much I had to move the plate.



Bike now idles better, revs better and sounds way better. Thought the old girl just didn't run right. I have yet to test ride as I want to swap out the right exhaust header.

Other than a handle bar swap "little bit" is done and ready to enjoy.

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« Reply #476 on: June 23, 2013, 07:26:06 AM »
In case anyone would like to copy and paste here are the instructions I followed.

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First, the static timing light is simply a 12V light bulb wired across the points terminal (or spring) and ground. With the ignition on, you should get 12V across the points when they are open, zero when closed. It tells you when the points just begin to open; better than you can see by eye.

1) Position the points plate at the middle of it's travel and snug it down.

2) Turn the crankshaft clockwise to put the rotor on the "F" mark.

3) Adjust the points so they are just closed - this is just to get you in the ballpark.

4) Rotate the crankshaft clockwise until the points are at their max opening; they will open quickly and stay at max open for a good bit of crank rotation; you can just eyeball it, there isn't one point that you have to catch exactly.

5) At max open, set the points to about .014" and snug them down. Don't be a hero here, those points screws strip pretty easily.

6) Again, Rotate the crankshaft clockwise to put the rotor on the "F" mark.

7) Ignition on

8. Now loosen the points plate and rotate it back and forth until the static timing light flickers between on and off and snug it down again.

9) Turn the crank clockwise - the light should stay on for a while, then go off as the points close, then on as the rotor "F" mark again passes the pointer.

10) If the light goes on too soon, the timing is advanced; too late it is retarded.

11) To advance the timing, rotate the points plate counter-clockwise or open the points gap slightly; you can loosen both screws and use the eccentric, or just bend the ground-side of the points slightly.

12) To retard the timing, do the opposite, rotate the points plate clockwise, or close the points gap slightly.

13) Rotate the crank around a few times to be sure you've got it. Since the points cam has two lobes, you may never get both sides perfect, but you should be able to get close.

14) IGNITION OFF

15) Make sure the points are absolutely clean before, during, and especially after the procedure. I usually spray some brake cleaner and compressed air in there, then draw a business card through the points when closed, if it comes out without a smudge, you're good to go.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #477 on: June 23, 2013, 08:20:19 AM »
Nice write up. Seems like you just can't stay away from it!
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« Reply #478 on: June 23, 2013, 08:31:58 AM »
Nice write up. Seems like you just can't stay away from it!

Hopefully someone else can/will use it.

If you have spare instrument wiring they work great for a test light. You just need some alligator clips and solder.

No need to leave things half done. In GOD we trust, everything else we check.  ;)

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« Reply #479 on: June 23, 2013, 08:36:10 AM »
Nice cool spell in the mornings. Yesterday I took a break and rode the CBX. Boy, that was a well needed ride. Feel better.

Since the shop is cool why not finish up the exhaust. Found a nice right pipe on flea bay.



Replaced this one.



Left side was good.



Exhaust system finished.  8)

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #480 on: June 23, 2013, 11:49:42 AM »
+1 on the write-up...............also works on many other bikes...........I used cellophane wrap (with a light tug while rotating the plate you can feel the points open) for a few years but 'got the light' and have not looked back.
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #481 on: June 23, 2013, 12:29:24 PM »
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« Reply #482 on: June 23, 2013, 01:19:54 PM »
There are some "die for" accessories on that one.

Very hard to find that stuff. The crash bar shows up but the rest is almost impossible.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #483 on: June 23, 2013, 02:23:20 PM »
If it were white it would have been irresistable for you.
Very cool that you were able to find the exhaust parts you wanted.
Bike should run stronger with proper advance set.
Glad you are getting it sorted out.
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #484 on: June 25, 2013, 08:24:52 AM »
Well, well. Bike is running super! State inspection to get the title issue resolved tomorrow. Was titled by engine number and not the frame number. Will make it easier to sell.

Sell! Did I just say sell?  :o Nope, this bike is just plain fun. Rode around the block a few times and constant "thumbs up" from people. In fact some changes are coming so stay tuned. Yeah, going to throw some more money at it.   :P

Found the correct handle bar and.... ::)

RAF, you are correct. Takes some getting use to on the front end suspension. Cushy ride for sure. Just a putt around motorcycle.

It kind of hides huh? Maybe I need a orange cone? Notice how I made room for another project?  ;D



Wonderful motorcycle.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #485 on: June 25, 2013, 10:43:01 AM »
Wow, what a transformation...attitude change from the problem days.

They melt your heart a little with their ride and appreciation others show you when riding them. They are from a different era and built for slower highway rides and around town.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #486 on: June 25, 2013, 01:20:17 PM »
With your CA95 bars, more than I should be spending given my employment situation, but I'm sure that is not much of a surprise.

No worries. Have a shed full of parts.  ;D

I received a phone call yesterday from Phoenix. The guy is looking for an ignition switch. We got to talking and he bought the CA72 that I passed on. He has a 1962 model he wants to get back on the road so he might buy them or trade. He is going to Tucson this weekend to buy some parts. Yup, stock handle bars with controls for $15.00.  :o Will see.

I told him it's not about making money but to keep them on the road and in the family. Another contact made. Can't have enough.  ;)

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« Reply #487 on: June 26, 2013, 10:14:35 AM »
Onward we go!

It took a little bit getting the title transferred to the frame number as it was titled by the engine number 48 years ago.  :o  Hard to believe I'm second registered owner of a 1965 motorcycle.  :D

Yes, I have several good copies of the original.  ;) I asked to keep it but it was a no go.

So..Arizona title showing the correct VIN number. Inspector Jim was a very nice fellow. They verified it wasn't stolen (good thing) but the books only went back to 1966. HA!

When business was done I was mounting the new plate. Several people were hanging around asking questions. When I got ready to leave I turned the key and varoom, fired that ole Honda right up!. ;D

I turned around and said "not bad for 48 years old huh?" Jim just smiled.

We got her done.  8)

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« Reply #488 on: June 26, 2013, 12:39:14 PM »
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #489 on: June 26, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »
I love it!
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #490 on: June 26, 2013, 01:07:16 PM »
Dream over or just beginning

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« Reply #491 on: June 26, 2013, 01:10:55 PM »
Dream over or just beginning


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« Reply #492 on: June 26, 2013, 03:39:17 PM »
Did you get an antique plate?
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« Reply #493 on: June 26, 2013, 03:56:52 PM »
Did you get an antique plate?

Not available anymore in Arizona. Just a regular plate for now.

Did quite a bit today. Renewed my license, titled and plated "little bit" and managed to retrieve a vanity plate I gave back over a year ago. Glad to get it back.  8)

It's been a good day. Dream is back on the rack for more changes.  ;) Cool stuff lies ahead!  ::)

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« Reply #494 on: June 27, 2013, 07:17:21 AM »
Today I wanted to recheck a few things after riding around 30 miles or so. I had soaked the cylinders quite a bit over the course of the build. Used MMO.

Timing: Checked a few days ago. Correct.

Plug gap: .024. Check. Plugs look fantastic.

Valves: Check. .004 all around.

Compression: 145 left/150 right. Very happy. When you buy a non running bike it's like a box of choclate.  :D

Waiting on some parts. High heat warning here this weekend. Temps from 120 to 125 in the desert areas. Food bought, plenty of booze and a good working air conditioner on the roof.

Back to the dinning room shop.  ;)

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« Reply #496 on: June 27, 2013, 05:59:40 PM »
125*.....holy #$%*e!   Heard it was over 130 in Death Valley today. We've been 100 the last few days.
Will your ac unit cool your house to 75 when it's 125? Don't think mine would.
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« Reply #497 on: June 27, 2013, 06:23:36 PM »
125*.....holy #$%*e!   Heard it was over 130 in Death Valley today. We've been 100 the last few days.
Will your ac unit cool your house to 75 when it's 125? Don't think mine would.

You bet! Like Texas they are big out here. Forecast 122 tomorrow. That will bury the thermometer.

I have had the lines freeze last July. Takes a while to thaw out but eventually it starts to cool. I have nine fans spinning right now. Three in the garage, rest in the house.  :D

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« Reply #498 on: June 27, 2013, 06:30:56 PM »
125*.....holy #$%*e!   Heard it was over 130 in Death Valley today. We've been 100 the last few days.
Will your ac unit cool your house to 75 when it's 125? Don't think mine would.

You bet! Like Texas they are big out here. Forecast 122 tomorrow. That will bury the thermometer.

I have had the lines freeze last July. Takes a while to thaw out but eventually it starts to cool. I have nine fans spinning right now. Three in the garage, rest in the house.  :D


Make sure those lens are well insulated. You plan to stay there now that your retired?   Move to the mts where it's cool!
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« Reply #499 on: June 27, 2013, 06:38:13 PM »
125*.....holy #$%*e!   Heard it was over 130 in Death Valley today. We've been 100 the last few days.
Will your ac unit cool your house to 75 when it's 125? Don't think mine would.

You bet! Like Texas they are big out here. Forecast 122 tomorrow. That will bury the thermometer.

I have had the lines freeze last July. Takes a while to thaw out but eventually it starts to cool. I have nine fans spinning right now. Three in the garage, rest in the house.  :D


Make sure those lens are well insulated. You plan to stay there now that your retired?   Move to the mts where it's cool!

Nope. Right here. You get use to it. What is miserable to me is high temps with high humidity. Indiana weather got like that. Miserable.

We are going to do a weekend shop @ 0500 hrs. Take a cooler with us for the frozen items like ice cream. It's actually quite nice untill 1100 hrs. After that stay in. I don't have to go out any more. GOD, I love retirement!

The Colorado river stays around 74 to 76 degrees. One block away. Never been in it.  :o

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