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digital volt gauge
« on: February 07, 2015, 09:26:58 AM »
Is there anywhere that sells, at a reasonable price, a small volt gauge that can be mounted to the handlebars or
somewhere convenient? Anyone running a volt gauge with pics? Looking for something conservative. It"d be nice to monitor charging rate while riding. Plan is to tee it in to a black wire in the headlight housing..Thoughts?

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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2015, 11:21:30 AM »
You can get power for a meter from your headlight bucket, but it will read a little low.

When a device draws a lot of amps through a small wire, the voltage decreases.  That's why many people recommend adding a relay for powering the headlight so the light bulb gets full voltage.  You may also want your meter to get full voltage.

I use a pair of wires going right back to my battery, with a fuse at the positive terminal of the bat.  By running a new 10AWG pair, I can get an accurate reading from a meter and still use 5A on that wire for a heated jacket.

It would be easier to use a wire in the headlight bucket, compare that to a reading at the battery with a multi-meter, and just remember that your display is 1/4 or 1/2 volt low.

No pic of the face of the meter on my 750.  The meter was just behind the brake fluid reservoir:


On a thumper:
 

Previous arrangement on thumper:
 

This last is sold as a "5-fnction meter" but beware.  It's not at all waterproof.  Mine was accurate about 95% of the time but it was sometimes hard to tell if it was OK or not.

I currently get simple 2-wire meters from MPJA: 
http://www.mpja.com/Mini-3-Digit-LED-Battery-meter-Input-Powered-Red/productinfo/19598%20ME/  This is the same as the one currently on my thumper.

The one on my 750 was larger and I had to build a 5V power supply to run the meter.  These little ones are simple 2-wire meters -- self powering -- all you need to do is enclose it.

I'm sure someone else has more finished solutions.
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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2015, 11:30:46 AM »
i had a homemade voltmeter.(.put a diode light onside..and vired it to the rear light/instrument lighting.) povered voltmeter by the key  ...i did losen 1 volt in the viring loom..after running it for 1 seson..i had a idea of volting reise  over 15 vith no light on..but vith pos light it vas fine at 13-14 volt..so pulled the voltmeter ..it vas only to thek the voltage in the nev bike..under normal driving kondision..i alvaus drive vith light on...so did not fittel vith the regulator..

ups...... it a analog instrument...not digital
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2015, 12:00:16 PM »
I have one of these I could send you. I bought two just in case I destroyed one.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=131138594490



It doesn't have a back to it so you'll have to make up some housing for it. I don't know how weatherproof it is, though.

And then with a quick search I found this little guy.
http://m.banggood.com/Automobile-Motorcycle-DC-12V-to-24V-LED-Digital-Voltmeter-p-933630.html


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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2015, 06:09:11 PM »
I wanted the smallest waterproof meter I could get. I'm putting one on each bike. I got mine from Cyclemax:
http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/mini_led_digital_voltmeter/4231
I made a holder from 1/4" sheet ABS I got from Grainger. The handlebar mount is a cigarette lighter from Cycle Gear (they can be had cheaper on ebay). Here's a pic of the setup on my '75 Goldwing:
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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2015, 11:17:34 PM »
Found this one on vintagecb750. looks good to me. anyone bought one?

http://www.vintagecb750.com/products/5/electrical/55/wiring-harnesses-and-charging-system-parts
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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2015, 01:36:47 AM »
I ran fused cable from my battery up to a cig lighter socket and stuck it between my speedo and tacho.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2015, 01:38:44 AM »
Then I plug in a volt meter if I want to keep an eye on the battery

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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 01:40:55 AM »
I left the cable long enough to chuck in the tank bag to charge my phone if going away for a few days

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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 02:31:34 AM »
Hi
What are the black fittings under the indicators on both sides?
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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2015, 06:09:31 AM »
Found this one on vintagecb750. looks good to me. anyone bought one?
These use 8 LEDs to show from 8V to 16V.  That may be OK.

When I turn on heated gear or extra lights, I want to see exactly what the extra load is doing to the bike voltage.  There is no single voltage dividing line; it always depends on what extra loads are on the system.

If you DON'T have extra loads, then a general idea may be fine:  13.5V good, 12V bad.

There's a different version of that meter that has 10 LEDs for the range from 11 to 15 or perhaps 10.5 to 15.5.  That may work better.  As a battery gets old it usually can't deliver amps as quickly and this meter wouldn't show how low the voltage is sagging when the starter runs.  That voltage can run below 11 and still start a motorcycle, but having a meter that shows what's going on will be even more useful when something's out of whack.

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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2015, 07:39:22 AM »
I have both digital (above the dash) and bar graph (stuck on the speedo) on my Goldwing.  If I were to choose one, I'd say go with the bar graph type.  The digital is great for diagnosing electrical issues no doubt, but it can be too much info when on a ride.  You don't want to be in the middle of some highly technical twisties thinking "Why is my regulator putting out 0.2 volts more than usual?"

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 08:00:01 AM »
oil temp and voltage. Dan

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2015, 08:13:20 AM »
oil temp and voltage. Dan

Hey Dan,

How well dampened are the analog gauge movements you have?  I tried a cheepo voltage gauge and found that the lack of dampening caused the needle to jump so much as to be unusable.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2015, 08:24:17 AM »
I have no problem. If anything the voltage gauge moves too slow as if it is over damped. Dan

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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2015, 09:18:14 AM »
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What are the black fittings under the indicators on both sides?
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Re: digital volt gauge
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2015, 10:01:09 AM »
  http://img.banggood.com/thumb/view/upload/2014/08/SKU160821_1.jpg


I'm liking this one. Thinking of mounting on top of indicator light dash with two sided tape.
I will take into account that some voltage drop will occur, depending where the meter is located in the power circuit.
My bike has a Keysaver relay that I built, and I can conveniently tee in the meter just past that point. I never thought about the
necessity of the gauge to be waterproof, and the one in the link is. Thanks for the sources and pics of what you're all running folks.
I have some ideas now 8)

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2015, 03:54:24 AM »
  http://img.banggood.com/thumb/view/upload/2014/08/SKU160821_1.jpg

I'm liking this one.
Looks good.  You linked to the photo but I wasn't able to navigate to purchase info for it.

Couple of notes I didn't think of earlier:  The large one (about 1" high numbers) on my CB750 was too bright for night riding.  Not a huge problem, but more distracting than needed.  The smaller LED is about the same brightness but the smaller size makes it less distracting.  The backlit LCD was easy to read in all light or dark and never called attention to itself.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2015, 10:22:12 AM »
I really like this unit.  Have had one on for a couple seasons now.  Hooks directly to battery and has switched 12 volt on/off too.
The mounting bolt on the back allows for use of a simple handlebar clamp etc as well.

http://racetechelectric.com/i-16015932-universal-mini-12-volt-lcd-digital-voltmeter.html
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2015, 11:18:26 AM »
Have you give it a thought it'll spoil the looks and... you don't need one?
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2015, 01:34:56 PM »
Have you give it a thought it'll spoil the looks and... you don't need one?

I like to keep an eye on things, like in my car. Conservative is good. And if I get tired/don't like the looks, I make everything easy to remove and go straight back to stock. Every adaptor and connection is factory style, to accomodate the stock wiring harness.
Mounting method and location are important tho, so as not to spoil looks as well as not drilling into any part of the bike. Small panel for mounting would be ok, if I can find a good place to mount it. Just thinking out loud..
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2015, 01:43:41 PM »
@DH
I drilled two small screw holes into the gauge mount right under the tach.
If you enlarge the picture, you can see them.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2015, 01:58:20 PM »
I did this with a ballistic battery display. Can't seem to find them anywhere anymore. But there's lots of cool places you can put a digital readout.