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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #300 on: January 07, 2016, 06:03:40 PM »
Press the stem back (out) the 10mm, cut it off and weld it. Done.
That's what I'm hoping to do ... but only if they can come up with the appropriate conversion bearings for me at All Balls.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #301 on: January 14, 2016, 06:39:07 PM »
Heard back from All Balls today.  According to their R&D department, they don't believe that it will be possible to manufacture a ball bearing set that will allow me to use the 2008 CBR1000RR stem inside of the 550's neck with just a conversion bearing.  The reason is that the thickness of the stem (36 mm) doesn't leave enough room for the bearings and the race.

So it looks like my only option to use that front end on the 550 will be to press out the steering stem from within the CBR's triple tree and replace it with a 550 stem. 

I did some measurements and that thickness has a 5mm difference between the bottom of the two stems.  So I suppose my option is to have a 5mm spacer made up and have that welded into the lower CBR tree along with the stem from the 550 steering stem.  That will also mean that I'll need a 5mm spacer for the top stem to fit in the upper CBR triple tree as well.

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Just FYI in case someone else wants to do this conversion.  If you do, find a CBR front end that's a 1999 - 2007 model.  In 2008, the steering stem for the CBR1000RR was increased by 5mm in thickness over the stem from those 9 years.

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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #302 on: January 14, 2016, 07:17:47 PM »
Easier to make a custom 550 stem that is the correct length. Some 6061 turned on a lathe. Sounds about a two hour job.

That's a really good idea.  I don't have a lathe but I think I can take it to a machine shop and have them fab one for me. 

Question:  When pressing the stem out of the tree.  I assume you press the stem from the top downward through the lower stem?
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #303 on: January 14, 2016, 07:22:05 PM »
Take the stems and lowers of both. You want the stock dimensions on a piece pressed into the CBR, right?

Correct.  The forks on the CBR are 55mm so there's no way they're going to fit into a normal 550 tree's 35mm holes.  So my option seems to be to get a 550 stem to fit into the CBR trees.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #304 on: January 14, 2016, 07:37:07 PM »
Yeah I knew about the forks, but how much too long is the stem overall from the CBR, 10mm?
Yes.  The CBR stem is about 10mm too long.  I won't know it exactly until I press it out of the base but the CBR stem is about 10mm longer than the CB stem.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #305 on: January 14, 2016, 07:46:00 PM »
Just to be clear, the portion above the top edge of the bottom is the only length that matters. The length of the stem within the lower clamp is irrelevant. Thicker top clamps and lower clamps is a matter of strength and modern stems are much deeper in these clamps.

I think Devin may already have a stem made that you can buy and press in, or have done by him/your guy.
Great info, cal.  Thank you.

I'll reach out to see.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #306 on: January 14, 2016, 11:10:36 PM »
The stems are easy enough to press out and press in with a hydraulic press.  Had a CB750 stem pressed into a 2008 CBR600RR lower triple.





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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #307 on: January 15, 2016, 03:13:19 AM »
Don,
Did you end up using the CBR upper with that setup as well?  If so, what did you do to take up the extra space since that 750 stem is smaller in diameter than the CBR stem was?

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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #308 on: January 15, 2016, 06:37:49 AM »
Ron,

Initially, I planned to use the CBR upper and lower with the 750!stem. I had no fitment issues. The CBR600RR likely differs from your CBR1000RR tree.

To optimize offset for 18" wheels, I had Devin make me some new triples with thei own seem included.


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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #309 on: February 24, 2016, 09:00:06 AM »
Well, I'm finally getting a chance to get back onto this build and update the thread.

Mike, my buddy who helped as Logan's project facilitator on the Stella project, is also the guy who laid out the wiring diagram for this bike using the PDM 60 unit.  He came over to the house and shot a YouTube video that he published on his channel and does a really good job of explaining how we are using the PDM 60 on this bike but also just some of the basic wiring "theory". 

(P.S. He also has the links below the video for the consolidate wiring diagram as well as the diagram for each individual circuit by itself.  I printed out the individual circuits on 11x17 paper on the color printer at the office and it made it MUCH simpler for me to wire the bike because you could focus on only those wires one circuit at a time.  They're out there for any of you who would like to download them.)

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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #310 on: February 24, 2016, 09:08:50 AM »
One of the issues I had on this build was that the carb set I bought had been dropped and one of the float bowl pins was broken.  I took it to Jim French and he welded that and fixed it for me (by the way, SUPER guy and he does incredible work at very reasonable prices).  However, once I had new jets and installed them into the cleaned carbs and reassembled the carbs, I realized that the float bowl on the opposite side carb from the broken pin had also received a dent in it during that same drop.

I considered taking it back to Jim to have him microweld the area and do a build-up and I will do that if this method doesn't work.  But the documentation online for JB Weld says that petroleum products, ie gasoline, do not degrade JB Weld and since this is in an area where there should only be gas to this spot when the bike is leaned way over to the right, my first inclination was to try & fix it using JB Weld.

Here's what the gap looked like before:


And here's what it looks like now:


In close-up magnification like this, it looks a bit rougher than it is.  After seeing the photo, I took the carb bowl back off and filed down the sides a bit more to make it look smoother there although it really wouldn't have affected the performance and wasn't apparently obvious from anything over a foot away anyway.

Tonight, I'm going to do the wintergreen treatment on the carb boots and hope to get the carbs and pods mounted onto the bike, along with the exhaust pipes tonight.  It should be ready at that point to hook up the temporary gas bottle and see if we can get this thing running in the next day or two.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #311 on: February 25, 2016, 09:29:22 PM »
The carb boots are available as repro parts for about $45 + shipping. I think it is dss that carries them and it was the later carbs...

Be very very careful with the xylene if you are using it. I spilled some on me and I guess I breathed too much of the fumes as my liver enzymes took a huge spike after messing with it. Dr was having me throughly checked out even to go to extent of liver biopsy. Was thinking it was non-alcoholic liver cirrosis.
Took a long time for my body to work it out of my system and things go back to normal.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #312 on: February 26, 2016, 12:16:40 AM »
Be very very careful with the xylene if you are using it. I spilled some on me and I guess I breathed too much of the fumes as my liver enzymes took a huge spike after messing with it. Dr was having me throughly checked out even to go to extent of liver biopsy. Was thinking it was non-alcoholic liver cirrosis.
Took a long time for my body to work it out of my system and things go back to normal.

That sounds strange...?
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #313 on: February 26, 2016, 07:25:27 AM »
Be very very careful with the xylene if you are using it. I spilled some on me and I guess I breathed too much of the fumes as my liver enzymes took a huge spike after messing with it. Dr was having me throughly checked out even to go to extent of liver biopsy. Was thinking it was non-alcoholic liver cirrosis.
Took a long time for my body to work it out of my system and things go back to normal.

That sounds strange...?

Sounds strange to me to retro.  I use xylene regularly at work.  Its nasty stuff, but unless you are bathing in it or drinking it, you should be ok.  Definitely wear gloves (its absorbed through the skin) and use in a well ventilated area.  One of my first symptoms of too much exposure is a flushed/hot feeling.  It targets the central nervous system so you start feeling dizzy or get a headache go get some fresh air.  Also keep it away from rubbers and most plastics.  Eats them like it is it's job
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #314 on: February 26, 2016, 08:50:02 AM »
Unless Wintergreen oil is the same thing as Xylene, then I'm not using xylene.  The bottle I'm using says that it is 100% Natural Wintergreen Essential Oil.
I held off on doing it the other night though because it was cold & raining.  It's supposed to be close to 60 degrees and sunny this afternoon so I'm going to do it then.

Here's the stuff I used on Stella....it's what I'm going to be using on these carb boots, too.

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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #315 on: February 26, 2016, 10:22:05 AM »
Therapeutic Grade - to bad they don't sell something less pricey than what looks like a Whole Foods supplement.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #316 on: February 26, 2016, 10:36:58 AM »
It wasn't too bad actually.  I paid like $9 for mine because I went with the larger bottle but the smaller one is only about $5.
I got mine here:
http://www.bulkapothecary.com/product/essential-oils/pure-therapeutic-grade/wintergreen-essential-oil/
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« Reply #317 on: February 26, 2016, 03:30:13 PM »
It wasn't too bad actually.  I paid like $9 for mine because I went with the larger bottle but the smaller one is only about $5.
I got mine here:
http://www.bulkapothecary.com/product/essential-oils/pure-therapeutic-grade/wintergreen-essential-oil/

Oh, from this guy . . .
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #318 on: February 26, 2016, 04:32:55 PM »
Liverbiopsy was clean and maybe it wasn't from the xylene, but enzymes were spiked for about a year and medication changes and other changes had no affect on the reading. It was odd.
Reason I mentioned it was that xylene was a component that was recommended to use with the wintergreen oil in the thread I had followed.
You can get a quart of Thor's Oil wintergreen based tire treatment that racers use for tire treatment to soften up the rubber. I think it is used by circle track racers...
We used a wintergreen formula tiresauce for foam tires when racing RC 10th and 12th scale years and years ago. It was some nasty stuff that gave me headaches so it probably had xylene in it. I couldn'trace in some venues it was so strong That I would have a headache by the 2nd round of qualifying...even when going outside for fresh air as much as I could.
ended up that formula was banned from lots of tracks.
Manufacturers finally started offering other formulas.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #319 on: February 26, 2016, 09:32:41 PM »
Be very very careful with the xylene if you are using it. I spilled some on me and I guess I breathed too much of the fumes as my liver enzymes took a huge spike after messing with it. Dr was having me throughly checked out even to go to extent of liver biopsy. Was thinking it was non-alcoholic liver cirrosis.
Took a long time for my body to work it out of my system and things go back to normal.

That sounds strange...?

Sounds strange to me to retro.  I use xylene regularly at work.  Its nasty stuff, but unless you are bathing in it or drinking it, you should be ok.  Definitely wear gloves (its absorbed through the skin) and use in a well ventilated area.  One of my first symptoms of too much exposure is a flushed/hot feeling.  It targets the central nervous system so you start feeling dizzy or get a headache go get some fresh air.  Also keep it away from rubbers and most plastics.  Eats them like it is it's job

Exactly, if anyone is going to be effected by it, its me. I had a liver transplant in 1999, I've worked since, doing industrial painting and finishes in mainly epoxy and Polyurethane and used and been around Xylene with no effect apart from the sweats and light headache, Usually in places with poor ventilation, I immediately  mask up using a proper particle filter.... If you can smell it, mask up... ;)
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #320 on: March 23, 2016, 01:33:12 PM »
For the clutch actuator ball, I couldn't bring myself to spend a dollar plus shipping on a single ball bearing. What I did is went to the hardware store and bought about 10 of them ( i believe they are 5/16?) for 50 cents then I hardened each one by heating them with a torch until they were cherry red then dropping them in a cap of oil. If you don't temper the hardware store ball bearing it will fuse itself to the shift rod. It's too late for my trick to save you some dough but I figure someone else reading your build thread might be able to use it.

And I did, thanks.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #321 on: March 24, 2016, 05:21:46 AM »
Hey Ron.....any progress here?   Or should we just carry on without you?!
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #322 on: April 02, 2016, 11:51:00 AM »
    Sorry, Stev-o.  Yes, actually there has been progress but I've been busier than a one legged man in a butt-kicking-contest with work lately.  I've literally been putting in 15-16 hour days, 7 days per week for about the last 4 weeks.  So I've barely had the time to work on the bikes like I wish I could have.

    On the build:
    • The wiring is complete with the exception of hooking up the regulator/rectifier.  I still have to cut off the current connectors and crimp new ones on to make them match up.  I did take a few of the connections apart to make it easier to mount the seat pan and get the welding done there without having to work around the battery, solenoid and the wires under there.
    • The front part of the seat pan is complete and on the bike.  I'm pleased with the way it turned out.  I have cut the rear part but haven't welded the 2 pieces together yet.
    • Speaking of welding, I bought myself a new Eastman 135 MIG welder with gas attachment and all kinds of accessories (helmet, gloves, magnets, welding pliers, chipping hammers, brushes, etc) back around Christmas and I finally got around to putting everything together late last night when I finished working.  I'm hoping to get to do some practice welding later tonight or tomorrow until I feel confident enough to do some tack welds to hold the 2 parts of the seat together and then weld them completely up.
    • I also bought myself a big 15" Porter Cable floor-model drill press with a 1HP motor in it because I'm going to drill the rotors at least on the 550.  I may do them on the 500, too but I'm not sure I want to go to all that trouble on it.  We'll see.
    • Carbs have been cleaned and re-assembled.  They're on the bike along with a set of pod filters.
    • I bought some rearsets for this bike and I have to take the time to mount them but I may wait to do that after the initial ride on the bike.
    • I'm still not happy at all with the clutch pull on this bike.  The clutch return spring inside the housing on the left of the bike was bad so I just bought a replacement spring off eBay and put that on one night earlier this week after it arrived.  But the clutch still isn't working like it should so I'm going to have to take that apart and see if I can figure out what is going on with it. 
    • Front brake master cylinder is on and ready to go but I have to mount the brake calipers and get the lower 1/2 of the brake line attached and connect it to the upper 1/2, along with the pressure switch for the brake lights.
    • I've cut out the portion of the seat pan that will be the base of the upholstered part of the seat.  I still have to purchase the brown vinyl material that has the leather look and do the upholstery stitching.  I'm actually pretty decent with a sewing machine and my wife's machine will work with the vinyl material so I'm going to do a stitched seat very similar to the styling on this one from DCC (although I don't plan to upholster any of the upswept part.
http://www.dimecitycycles.com/black-dcc-originals-upswept-leather-wrapped-brat-style-motorcycle-seat.html
  • My last big "atom to smash" on this bike is how I'm going to do the throttle cables on the current throttle that I have on there and hide the connecting piece since they're not going inside of the usual Honda right side switches, which usually cover the push/pull connection places.  I still don't know what I'm going to do with that part yet.
  • Oh yeah...I also didn't like the fact that you could still see a few imperfections in the tank so I stripped the paint off the tank, resanded it down, reapplied the body filler and a couple of coats of primer filler.  It's about 95% towards being ready to do final sanding and start applying paint.  Hopefully, I'll get the time to do that this week.  I did get the front fender bobbed and did some sanding/filling on it.  It's primed and ready for paint now.  Once I get the seat pan ready, I'm going to paint the tank, the metal on the seat pan, and the fender all at the same time.

Here are a couple of photos I just snapped:


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Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafes    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,147787.0.html

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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #323 on: April 02, 2016, 01:22:27 PM »
Looking good, Ron.
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Re: Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafe Projects
« Reply #324 on: April 03, 2016, 01:25:04 PM »
Great update!  What happened to the stator cover?
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