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Saint Terry of Australia
« on: November 07, 2006, 06:29:14 PM »
 So here's the story.........

  I've owned two CB750's for the past 5 years, both '78 F3's. The first one I bought had a blown motor but all the hard parts/chrome were in very good shape, perfect for restoration. The second one I bought was a rusty,leaky,frankenstein "runner" that I could use for gettin' around on while the first one was in pieces.

  It took about 2 years of cleaning,wrenching, and wallet emptying to get bike #1 finished. In the meantime I was happy to get around on the rusty beater. It has a nice Corbin seat and Viper fairing and even though the right rear shock was not "up to task" it handled very well in the turns and was very fun to throw around on the weekends.

  Once bike #1 was finished it became my Daily Rider and bike #2 became the next project. Bike #1 got everything I could think of; 836 pistons,Mrieck headwork,hot cam,progressive shocks and springs, new wheel bearings, swingarm bearings,steering bearings,etc,etc.... What I wanted was a near stock looking hot rod of the period. I have not been disappointed in any of the areas of speed and performance except one........handling.

   Now, I've ridden two of essentially the same bike for long periods of time. By all my calculations Bike #1, with all the extra attention to the parts that govern "handling", should be the better ride. But ever since I pulled Bike #2 from service I have been missing it. It handled sooooo much better in the turns.

    At first I thought I must have done something wrong when building #1. I checked the swingarm for play, I checked the new races in the steering, I fiddled with the rear shocks, I drained and remeasured the fluid in the forks. Nothing changed. And then one day I noticed that the front fender sat just a bit askew. On closer examination I could see that the built-in brace was a bit tweaked. The chrome was imacculate and by all outward appearances it was a brand new fender, but that brace........hmmmmmmmm?

   Enter Saint Terry of Australia. I don't know what possesed him to start working on a fork brace for the F2/3 or even how he chose me to be the guinea pig for its initial test but, dammit, I'm thinking it was an act of god almighty.

   The brace arrived in yesterdays mail, and though quite exhausted I was exctited enough to mount it on the bike and go for a 1/2 mile spin. "Wow", I thought, "this feels kinda different". Almost like my front tire was twice as wide and the front forks were dampening for the first time. Well, this is nice :) But I thought I'd wait until today to put it through the paces and see how MUCH different things actually were.

    Today started like any other day with the usual dash for the coffee pot and a mumbled curse about having to fight rush hour traffic on the way to work. I wheel the bike to the curb, warm it up and drop into 1st to start my journey. The first turn brings me on to a main street and the front wheel runs over a yellow lane reflector. In the past this would make the front "skip" just a bit but today there was only the muffled "thump" as the bike continued in the desired direction.

    Another turn brings me to a four lane road with no stops for about a mile. I open up to about 50 and head for the freeway at just the same time someone decides to back their car into the street. I hit the brakes and drop to 25 while I move to the center lane..... For me, this bears repeating.... I GRABBED the FRONT brake while CHANGING course....... In the past this has been cause for panic since grabbing the front brake hard meant the bike was going to go in a straight line of its choosing. "Yee-frickin'-haw" I think "Me rikey a rot".

   Next I get on the freeway for about a mile of lane splitting. This section of freeway has recently had "grooves" dug in its surface for the rain to wash away in and it also has large splits/cracks running up between the lanes. In the past the grooves have given the bike that "swimmy" feeling and the splits have caused my bike to pitch to one side or the other when my front tire ran in them. NOT TODAY!!! Today my bike went where I pointed it and laughed a mighty laugh at al the splits,cracks, and grooves that used to rule over it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

   On the way home from work I took a detour to try some bumpy, twisty roads. No high speed daredevil riding, just a bit of further testing of my new found dampening and front brake stability. The changes in the way the bike handles now seem minor in comparison to the effect they have on me, the rider, which is MAJOR. No more dusting off speed by braking far in advance of a turn so I can have time to recover and set up my turn. I can now do both at the same time and if I'm still coming in too hot I can stay on the brake without fear of being pulled in a straight line. Oh, and bumps, well they're just bumps now.

   I've written far too many paragraphs just to express my joy, but it has been over a year of daily riding with a voice in the back of my head saying "you're gonna put that thing in a ditch if you don't watch out" and that voice just shut the #$%* up :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

   So "Good on ya, Terry" or whatever they say over there when one gives a big smile of gratitude and a hearty slap on the back. You ROCK!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: November 07, 2006, 09:15:46 PM by scondon »
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 07:36:29 PM »
Well guinea pig, what's it like to be a test pilot for one of Australia's top performance companies ? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Test over...what a good report...ever thought about doing it for a living. ;)

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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 07:56:39 PM »
This is "GREAT NEWS" Sean!!!! I have exactly the same problem!! I took a peak at my so called fork brace (you know..that beer can that holds the front fender on?) and it is tweeked also. My front end is coming off soon for a major revamp and now I will be including the fork brace on the menu.
 Seaweb was also going to do this but I guess you beat him to the "Product test rider". The other day,I pulled the gaitor up on my right fork (Expecting to see a rust stump) and it is clean as a whistle! One other thing....i can't see in your pic how you mounted the fender to the brace but I will worry about that later. I may just have to pop over to Oakland one day soon and check your scoot out firsthand.Talk to ya later.
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 08:49:41 PM »
now my question is...does Terry offer one that would work on a K4?
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 09:14:12 PM »
I just thought of that also! Us K guys would have to lose the gaitors for it to fit. I sorta like the look of those.
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 09:22:10 PM »
No gaitors on my ride ;D

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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2006, 09:27:02 PM »
Looks like Terry's head will get even bigger. I see you got the one with his new logo on it too. I think he needs to give you a free oil cooler for the gratuitous plug. You've done some great work and posting lately that will benefit many of the viewers. THANKS!
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2006, 09:31:01 PM »
and Terry ;D
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2006, 09:34:24 PM »
This is "GREAT NEWS" Sean!!!! I have exactly the same problem!! I took a peak at my so called fork brace (you know..that beer can that holds the front fender on?) and it is tweeked also. My front end is coming off soon for a major revamp and now I will be including the fork brace on the menu.
 Seaweb was also going to do this but I guess you beat him to the "Product test rider". The other day,I pulled the gaitor up on my right fork (Expecting to see a rust stump) and it is clean as a whistle! One other thing....i can't see in your pic how you mounted the fender to the brace but I will worry about that later. I may just have to pop over to Oakland one day soon and check your scoot out firsthand.Talk to ya later.

   Yeah, who would have thought that small detail could have such a big effect. If I hadn't had my "beater" bike for comparison I would have just assumed that these old Honda's handled like #$%*e. It still doesn't compare to a modern sport bike in handling, but it is plenty good now for moderate-hard riding.

   The brace is five seperate pieces. Two two-piece "split clamps" mount to each fork lower and the bridge piece mounts to the top of each clamp(no connection to the fender).

   I forget how the gators connect to the fork lowers on the K bikes, but I seem to recall that the metal connecting piece fits inside a cutout at the top inner portion of each fork lower. I would think that placing the "split clamps" just below the cutout would work, but you would then need a curved bridge piece to clear the tire and fender. There were some K braces made that are just two curved rods that mounted to the fender mounts. They show up on ebay from time to time.

    Drop me a PM anytime your heading up this way, Fred. Always happy to get another look at that sweet ride of yours ;) :)
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 09:46:46 PM »
Looks like Terry's head will get even bigger. I see you got the one with his new logo on it too. I think he needs to give you a free oil cooler for the gratuitous plug. You've done some great work and posting lately that will benefit many of the viewers. THANKS!

   Thanks,Rxman :)  I forgot to mention that there was also a new cooler kit in the box as well and I have yet to arrange payment for it.(ahem!cough) Terry? :D :D
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2006, 09:59:51 PM »
Will do Sean.....thanks for the info on the brace.
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2006, 02:12:57 AM »
G'Day Sean, thanks for the wrap mate, it's always very satisfying for me to read a post like that about something I've designed and built to improve the performance of our bikes, and I'm thrilled that you are so impressed with it! ;D

I haven't forgotten the K bikes either guys, Derek (SeawebII) is "next cab off the rank" for a set of my "Fork Cuffs", and Miles (Miles Nowhere) has generously donated a set of K8 forks so I can mount them on my spare K2 and build a brace on them. Derek is financing the shipping charges from the US to Oz, and as soon as they arrive I'll start machining up some 6061 T6 alloy billet.

This brace will suit all F/F1 and K7/K8 bikes, the F2/F3 are already covered of course, and very shortly I'll give the earlier K bikes a going over too, although if you've got a K3-K6 and are in a hurry to improve it's handling performance, swapping out your alloy fork sliders with those from an F/F1 or K7/K8 is dead easy, and will allow the fitment of one of my braces.

Thanks again Sean, as always, if you're happy, then I'm happy, so enjoy! Cheers, Terry. ;D
 
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2006, 02:59:21 AM »
Terry,

make sure you mill your name in right  TIA (patent pending)   :)

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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2006, 07:02:34 AM »
terry,if you ever get the urge to do a set for a gl1000 front end,let me know.
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2006, 12:51:56 PM »
terry,if you ever get the urge to do a set for a gl1000 front end,let me know.

That shouldn't be a problem Dusty, the "wing forks aren't too different from the F2/F3's. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Saint Terry of Australia
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 01:56:58 PM »
groovy,ill add that to my things to get list.
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