Topic: Looking into building a shop

[dhall57]

That's right fellows. It's time to expand. Right now I have 9 bikes in some shape or form and my single garage is busting at the seams. Who one of thunk that back in 2009 when I bought my K6 and found this forum of great guys and a girl(Hey Mooshie) just to relive my youth a little bit of back in the 70's( don't forget Marcia Brady ) and to have a sohc4 to tinker on a ride some that it would be at this stage now 7 years later. Turn me over I'm done. I've got to do something if I'm plan on keeping these bikes and I am for a few more years anyway. So tired of having to move and shuffle bike's around to get one out to ride or to make room just to have a small area to work on one. No room for a bike lift of any kind so I'm up and down constantly. I'm in decent shape I feel like but the up and down all day long takes a toll on my 59 year old back a knees. Thought about knocking out the wall and expanding my garage but that would be major $$ bucks I would think. So I'm checking into having a seperate structure a metal building of some type roughly 24X45 built on my lot. This would give me plenty of room Ok input from anyone else that as done this would be helpful. Here is a pic of a building similar to what I would do. Would like to get something started in the next 2 to 3 months but will just have to see how it goes.



 

[cougar]

dhall ; Plus 1 on "calj737's" comment on "never big enough" +100 on the insulation !  I see by your location that you have cold winters (Ky here) . You'll Need to be insulated for winter and will appreciate it in the summer. I'ld love to set up a similar building, but I can't Easily get a concrete truck onto my property (weak bridge) so I may have to go with wooden floors.   ...cougar...

[strynboen]

i have big problems vith kondens/hot /Cold in my military cave...have to polish and oil the bikes over Winter..and still have some korosion problems...i use it to weld and cut..and do the most rouf Work aut there. and hold the old bikes and stuff.
.the nice bikes is inside in the hot garage,inside my house..

have made the floor isolated 10mm leca balls/mixed in  beton..to hold it dry..so no vet from Down under..it helps..think i build a melbran and vooden isolated shield inside ,and get some heating....have ventilation for hot days..can build a heater in that system.
..but better get all that inn for the start..its a mess to vork on later..elektric must be done erly..and drain araund the bulding as you doing the kabel Work..put the elektric vires in the same holes... digging is only once..and get intercom/ net.. in at the same time..i just throw some ekstra wires in the hole..

[HondaMan]

That's right fellows. It's time to expand. Right now I have 9 bikes in some shape or form and my single garage is busting at the seams. Who one of thunk that back in 2009 when I bought my K6 and found this forum of great guys and a girl(Hey Moonie) just to relive my youth a little bit of back in the 70's( don't forget Marcia Brady ) and to have a sohc4 to tinker on a ride some that it would be at this stage now 7 years later. Turn me over I'm done. I've got to do something if I'm plan on keeping these bikes and I am for a few more years anyway. So tired of having to move and shuffle bike's around to get one out to ride or to make room just to have a small area to work on one. No room for a bike lift of any kind so I'm up and down constantly. I'm in decent shape I feel like but the up and down all day long takes a toll on my 59 year old back a knees. Thought about knocking out the wall and expanding my garage but that would be major $$ bucks I would think. So I'm checking into having a seperate structure a metal building of some type roughly 24X45 built on my lot. This would give me plenty of room Ok input from anyone else that as done this would be helpful. Here is a pic of a building similar to what I would do. Would like to get something started in the next 2 to 3 months but will just have to see how it goes.



 

I am SOooo jealous!

[RevDoc]

Ping Jay Leno for some tips!

[rb550four]

  A 24 x 45  sounds like a good place to start to me. enough room for say 20 bikes, 60 feet of work bench/tool boxes, and almost 1 bay work space. Nice. Could be more, but garage doors and small entry doors take up space
   Will you be considering  a room  type web in the trusses for upstairs storage? yeah , for the stuff that isn't motorcycle related.
Are you considering insulating the slab? Good. Radiant in the slab? doesn't hurt or cost much to put in before the pour, even if you just want to use a hot water heater set up to get the slab warm.
 Insulate the walls and ceiling? It's a must... even if you don't  sheetrock and make it all pretty ,at least you can get it warm and keep it warm on any winter's day.  Spray foam insulation is the winner in this event, fiberglass isn't nearly as effective and it just gives mice a place to live. It costs a little more up front but it'll pay itself off quick, depending how much you use the space.
  I like a 4 foot lower area of side walls in metal... no rot ,no painting.
I look forward to seeing your new shop to house all these bikes. Q, has the lady of the house thought that it may be less expensive if you could just sell one or two of them? 
        Mine finally did. I just said " Ha! I'm off to the Lumber yard!"   Totally ignoring whatever silliness was about to be expelled from her lips.    As a back up plan , in case she brings it up again, I have been working on a "5 mile stare" , and have almost mastered my  hearing loss into  damn near deaf mode. Between the 'WHAT" and  rhyming  key words into the beginnings of  a ridiculous conversation.... she kind of gives up ... it's been kinda fun for me.   And I must say , it works well with shopping lists conversations about the in laws... anything, it's not just about bikes anymore.
   But anyways , I hope you get to build a new shop.

[dhall57]

Thanks RB for the input and all that info and things to consider when having a building done. This shop would not be just for my bikes, if so it would be some what smaller. My two sons the oldest who just moved back to town after being away for about 4 years and his younger brother want to use the shop for working their stuff also. I think it's great. We are talking about going in on this project together and splitting up the cost equally. This is all in the beginning stages so will see how everything pans out in the next few months.

[grcamna2]

A new shop building for your bikes,etc.  Good for you dhall57 !

[ekpent]

 Luckily it sounds like your OK with your zoning restrictions etc. Can't do anything usually without Big Brothers approval.

[dhall57]

On yeah getting your permits making sure it passes this code and that code etc, etc. The salesman at one company said some people will buy a building and want to do it themself and take a chance and try to fly under the radar of the county and by pass getting the permits and having things inspected to save some money. He says some get away with it but most don't and than your in for all type trouble and headaches. Don't want none of that so I will definitely dot all my I's and cross all my T's

[Johnie]

Don't forget the heat, AC and ceiling fan. Good quality windows and insulated doors. I have a 9 foot ceiling which I like for the lift. Once I run my Goldwing up the Handy lift she gets pretty high there. And white walls help with excellent lighting which is a must. The concrete floor has 4 inches of insulation foam under it. And you want good rebar so it does not crack. I had someone do the epoxy covering on the floor which stands up real nice to gas and oil. I went with the plaster route on the walls just for preference. You don't need that or the epoxy coating. I just figured I will be doing it once so wanted to do it my way. If I think of anything else I will let you know.

[Stev-o]

We all wish we had a shop like Johnie.  Still cold up there? I see you have sheets on your bikes to help keep them warm. Cant be for keeping them clean, that shop is immaculate!  [I dont cover bikes in my garage, I like to look at them daily!]

[ekpent]

 A little bathroom/urinal would be nice also and a large sink or washtub with running water.. A friend of mine who did cars in an over sized garage had a funnel mounted to the wall with a rubber hose that went through the wall and down to a mysterious hole in the ground.   

[Johnie]

Stev-o...I do take the covers off. Just put them on for winter dust. I worked in a dirty and dark garage for like 10 years and decided I wanted a clean shop with good lighting which it what brought me to this shop. The weather has been pretty nice. We have no snow on the ground, but they are predicting a storm for Wed. night into Thursday. At least I have some rides in already.
Hall...I hope you have a stable marriage My wife says the shop is cleaner than the house. Or she says, "you would not leave that lay there if it was in your shop." Gotta love her...she is very understanding of the hobby. The real plus is she likes to ride too. And that riding with her has been going on since 1971...yikes. She is a real keeper

[70CB750]

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Good luck!

[dhall57]

I've said it before so I'll say it again, beautiful shop Johnie!! You've got all the walls cover with all kind of good stuff motorcycle related and other wise. I like the old time gas pumps. That being said though just one thing that concerns me, where in the heck is your marcia poster man

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

That's a dream home shop.  I've been thinking about a shipping container space, just to take away the monthly cost of my storage space shop.

[Johnie]

You got me on that one hall. Was hoping to get a pic of Marcia on the back of my KO holding on tight

[hotdog]

Don't forget the heat, AC and ceiling fan. Good quality windows and insulated doors. I have a 9 foot ceiling which I like for the lift. Once I run my Goldwing up the Handy lift she gets pretty high there. And white walls help with excellent lighting which is a must. The concrete floor has 4 inches of insulation foam under it. And you want good rebar so it does not crack. I had someone do the epoxy covering on the floor which stands up real nice to gas and oil. I went with the plaster route on the walls just for preference. You don't need that or the epoxy coating. I just figured I will be doing it once so wanted to do it my way. If I think of anything else I will let you know.

Love all the old signs on the walls

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[flybox1]

its gotta have lofted storage area for all those CB parts you're gonna hoard 

[grcamna2]

We all wish we had a shop like Johnie.  Still cold up there? I see you have sheets on your bikes to help keep them warm. Cant be for keeping them clean, that shop is immaculate!  [I dont cover bikes in my garage, I like to look at them daily!]

"We all wish we had a shop like Johnie"
You aren't kidding Stev-o and that goes Triple for me   

[krusty]

A little bathroom/urinal would be nice also and a large sink or washtub with running water.. A friend of mine who did cars in an over sized garage had a funnel mounted to the wall with a rubber hose that went through the wall and down to a mysterious hole in the ground.   

In the military we called that funnel set-up a "pissophone".

[Stev-o]

A little bathroom/urinal would be nice also and a large sink or washtub with running water.. A friend of mine who did cars in an over sized garage had a funnel mounted to the wall with a rubber hose that went through the wall and down to a mysterious hole in the ground.   

In the military we called that funnel set-up a "pissophone".

Plumbing installed in your shop could run you $4k or more, very expensive to run and tie-in sewer lines.   
Water your favorite tree and just go inside for "big jobs".   
The shop will be adjacent to your home, correct?

[fastbroshi]

Has anyone seen garagejournal.com?  Their forums are awesome for anyone planning on building a shop.  Just google "center of the universe garagejournal".  You're welcome.

[ekpent]

A little bathroom/urinal would be nice also and a large sink or washtub with running water.. A friend of mine who did cars in an over sized garage had a funnel mounted to the wall with a rubber hose that went through the wall and down to a mysterious hole in the ground.   

In the military we called that funnel set-up a "pissophone".

Plumbing installed in your shop could run you $4k or more, very expensive to run and tie-in sewer lines.   
Water your favorite tree and just go inside for "big jobs".   
The shop will be adjacent to your home, correct?

  Long garden hose definitely cheaper for parts washing etc. I always carried a coffee can with a nice fitting lid in the back of my truck/trailer when I was a commercial driver just to stay out of some of those skanky truck stops. Some can be real dens of sin !!!

[Don R]

  My car/bike buddies always refer to Better Homes and Garages, our fictional mag. Two of us had running engine stands so we were going to have stand races too.
 I added a 24x36 on the back of our 2 car. 10 foot ceiling and two overhead doors. I have  40 chevy and 69 firebird projects and a dragster with 7 bikes and our 2 drivers one of which tows our race trailer. As you might guess it's full up, metal shelves help and there's a big shelf with a go cart and my drag bike on it.  I'll probably never get the cars finished again but I've owned them so long they're part of the family.