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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.07.07) WAY OT
« Reply #75 on: May 12, 2007, 12:14:57 PM »
I haven't worked on my bike in a long time because I've been getting my car ready for this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3361397402239984364

It's my brothing driving in that video, but you get the idea. I cut his video first because he needed it for MySpace.

My leather arrived, so hopefully I'll have my seat dome this weekend.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.07.07) WAY OT
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2007, 05:50:00 AM »
Check out this link to a CB350 project. Wow! Good work kids.
http://niskygarage.logical.net/index.htmlooo

That is some cool stuff. I can't say much, as I'm still pretty young, but it's nice to see students even younger appreciating bikes like that. And, the major involvement of the teachers, too cool. Oh and don't even get me started about the awesomeness of the bike itself. All around cool.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.07.07) WAY OT
« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2007, 07:30:07 AM »
Check out this link to a CB350 project. Wow! Good work kids.
http://niskygarage.logical.net/index.htmlooo

That is some cool stuff. I can't say much, as I'm still pretty young, but it's nice to see students even younger appreciating bikes like that. And, the major involvement of the teachers, too cool. Oh and don't even get me started about the awesomeness of the bike itself. All around cool.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2007, 07:26:16 PM »
That bike makes most of ours look bad. Those kids are well taught and very talented. I wish I had thos tools!

I traveled on business last week to Chicago. Before I left, I dropped ProTeal a note asking if I could check out his bike. Turns out, I made it to one of there Ton Up Chicago meetings in a little Irish pub not far from where I was staying. Cool folks and a cool time. And they definately have some cool bikes. Joe's was awsome in person and fits like a glove. There was also a very cool CB750 cafe and a wicked Triumph chop.

I finally managed to get some work on my bike. For the seat padding, I chopped of some of my wifes yoga mat and double-layered it. Though no pictured, there is padding on the seat itself and the hump. To cover the seat, I decided I wanted to use suede. I ended up buying a very nice piece of leather and just using the suede side. It was almost a shame becuase the leather finish and quality is very good. Anyway, after some struggling, we finaly managed to get the seat somewhat OK. It could be better, but I could not beat the free cost.

Black suede photo's poorly, but I'm still interested in what you think. Oh, and I need suggestions for how to gloe the suede to the underside of the seat...What do I use, headliner glue?





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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2007, 07:58:43 PM »
Isn't suede hard to keep clean and also not very waterproof?  I think it would make a cool look, I'm just worried about the practicallity, but I guess with the yoga mat, it maybe waterproof on it's own.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2007, 09:30:17 PM »
I think Talon has a good point, my thought is that the suede will collect everything, being as it's well, fuzzy, for the lack of a better word. But as far as attachment, depending on how your setup is, maybe some snaps or some sort of device on the bottom of the seat. So you can stretch it tight and have no visible attachment. I personally don't like adhesive, but that's just me. I would say spray it on, but don't rely on it, have some other sort of device.

But I gotta say, they suede looks the business, I do quite like it.

Steve

Oh and yes, referring to that build, it's really amazing what one can do with the right tools eh? Tig, lathe, drill press, that fancy bending table. Man, first off, I wish I had that stuff to use in High School. Second, I wish I had that stuff to use now!

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2007, 02:48:38 AM »
Short staples, 1/8 or 3/16, try to stay 1" or so away from the edge.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2007, 06:37:52 AM »
Thanks for the comments guys. I used to have the same thoughts about suede too. The se7en that I built has a suede steering wheel. In fact, I think most race cars use suede because of its grip. I've driven 2 hours in a downpour and the only thing that happened is that my hands turned black. The texture and grip are the same. I'm also the worse at getting greasy hands working on the car, then jumping in for a test run--getting the steering wheel greasy in the process. Suede really is pretty amazing.

Will it work well? Who know's; we'll see. I will Scotch Guard it well. I imagine in will get smooth in places where I sit and develop a look about it.

So no liquid adhesive? How to I use staples through the fiberglass?

--Thanks, Chris

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.13.07)
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2007, 01:37:48 PM »
Wrap the material around the lip of the seat, about an inch away from the edge staple opposing corners, stretch and staple.

A good staple gun should have no trouble penetrating the glass, but stay away from the edges so as not to split it. the other way, that I can think of would be to get some trim bead that clips over the lip, as you stretch the material you slide clips over the lip to hold in place then there is a trim bead that covers the lip. It is kinda like the molding on the edge of a car door.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2007, 06:34:42 AM »
OK, so I finally have an update. As usual, the complete description is on my website...

The finished seat getting Scotch Guarded


The finished seat from behind.


The seat from the side.


These are the rod ends I used. These are awsome!


And again! These are 7071 aluminum; very strong, very light. They have a Teflon AND a Kevlar coating


Left side control


Right side control that isn't working right. This needs modification because i screwed up the motio ratio calculation. Right now, the control has 2.5" of travel.


I'm going to drill 1/4" speed holes on the brake arm. Then attach the rod end as close as possible to the pivot. However, this will require a bent pullrod, so it will be interesting to see it work in application.

Also, that tach is grating on me more and more. Is there something smaller that I can use?

--Cheers, Chris

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2007, 07:47:06 AM »
Hi All:

I haven't really been posting here in a while, so here are the recent project updates. A more complete story/pictures are on my website. Feel free to offer critiques...

Headlight too hight? Too low?












Again, too hight? Too low?




--Cheers, Chris

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2007, 08:02:59 AM »
Chris looking good. Wondering if you were ever going to post up on this site again. I think if you can tuck that light any closer to the top triple it'd look better, but that's just my opinion. And the coils, I actually think you have them upside down, at least, that's how they were on my CB, they actually went inside that little gap in the frame. But I could be wrong. And you are using the exposed spring front end...tits. I am using the same. And I see you got one of Kit's starter plugs, you guys have very similar styles too, good stuff, it's starting to take an effect on my build as well. I hate it when people ask me this question, but any ETA on your project being done?

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2007, 09:19:09 AM »


        Looking Good Chris!!!!!! 8) Very Nice work indeed!!! ;) I agree with Steve on the headlight location. I'm not much on "Wrapped Pipes", but have to say that you HAVE done a nice job wrapping yours though. That starter plug is a cool touch too. Haven't heard of THAT company, do they make them for others, like say 450s? I'd like to have some info on the company myself. Keep up the good work on that bike, it's coming together very well. ;) 8)

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2007, 09:44:54 AM »
Bill, the plug is actually made by this guy:

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/BBS/viewtopic.php?t=5844&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

If you haven't seen that project thread yet, definitely worth checking out. Amazing work. Good guy too, talked with him a few times over E-mail.

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2007, 09:45:58 AM »
Coils are suppoused to bolt on the same holes, but the other way round. That is, inside the frame hole. They are a bit tricky to put in but it's not hard.

Cool starter motor plug.

Raul

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2007, 11:03:40 AM »
Thanks for the coil correction gents. I'll mount them correctly this afternoon. I'll also try moving the headlight up a bit. It should look good.

Kit is a cool guy. He lives a couple miles from me. He painted the bike--teaching me how in the process. That seat is from his mould, as the starter plug. I was initially going to get the MotoFiaccone logo in the plug, but figured life is too short. Kit wasn't going to be able to run some new plugs for a while anyhow.

Do check out his build blog. He does have some cool ideas there. His best ideas are still on paper, but I'll let him reveal those.

Here's some pics of his paintwork. I'm wet sand/polish the tank now.







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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2007, 09:42:26 AM »
Paint looks great !
Just makes me wanna make my CB450 "pretty" even more...
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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2007, 07:33:10 AM »
Hey Chris, what did you end up doing for a battery(ies)? I know your diagram looks to be fitting 3 small batteries, but wondering what you went with, as I'm at this stage as well.

Steve

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #93 on: August 18, 2007, 05:11:25 PM »
I do have 3 small batteries. Each is .8aH and I wired it so I get 2.4aH. Hopefully, it is enough. I'm wiring it up now, so I'll know shortly if it works or not.\

Good luck with your build.

--Chris

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2007, 02:44:12 PM »
can't tell from the pic whether the stripe is blk, dk green or navy......whatever it is, it looks great.   Love the headlight trim rim painted..nice touch
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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 05.18.07)
« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2007, 09:21:50 AM »
The stripe is gloss black--same color as the frame...

I finally began the wiring process. I still am not 100% certain if the battereise will work on not. Hopefully, my carbs will come in soon and I can fire her up. In the mean time, have a read through my website. Here are the pics.

Reflective tape to protect the paint.


Reflective tape lit by the camera's flash


Old, stripped wiring loom; reused


Wiring progress thus far--about 80% done.


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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 09.03.07) FIRST RIDE
« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2007, 06:39:23 AM »
My buddy Sam came over and we tried starting the bike. It took an hour or so of constant kicking, but we finally got the hand of it. His chop doesn’t have a kicker, so both of us were flying blind on this one.

I’m all assembled and went for the first ride. Having never really ridden a bike before, it was a bit scary. To compound this, everyone turned their sprinkler on last night, so I was nervous going into turns on 20+ year old tires.

The bike did well. She sounds good and feels like she has a lot of balls. At speed, she is REALLY buzzy—this surprised me. My hands were numb from the vibration. Next time, I’ll wear some gloves.

Now, for the bad news…The first is that the kickstand interferes with the shifter. I can get my toe under there, but something is going to have to change. But the worst thing is that the little batteries might not stick around—not in their current form. I’m going to give them a few more tries to see if maybe we drained them by trying to kick the bike over for so long. It might also be that the charging system is wired improperly and isn’t working. Who knows? Hopefully, they work.

Worse case: I put a small battery in its place.

I wish there were pictures to show for the weekend, but there aren't. A few weeks ago, I bought some carbs from DRj. I wanted them for the weekend, but accepted the fact that I would not have them. The arrived on Sat looking clean as could be. Still, I gave them a good soack and a quick rebuild. I also picked up my shortened cables on Fri. That said, there was no reason I could not go for a spin this weekend.

Look how tidy the wiring came out!


Sam and I kicked and kicked this thing for an hour or so (I hope that's what drained the battery!). It's frustrating, but she finally woke up.



Finished product from the rear side. I think it came out nicely.


And from the side. There is still stuff to do like give the tank a buff and apply some graphics, but for the most part, she's done. Hopefully, I figure out this battery issue and it works out fine.


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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 09.03.07) FIRST RIDE
« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2007, 07:23:03 AM »


         Whoa!!!!!! :o 8) ;) Let me be the first to say that you have done an AWESOME job on your build! ;) I hope you are right about the battery deal too. Looks like you made a plan of attack and carried it out quite well! Everything seems to come together so well too. Interested to see what you'll have to do to take care of the kicker/gear shift deal also. That seat is quite an unusual, but interesting shape. Myself, I'd have to have a bit more padding to keep my behind comfy. But hey, if it works for you that's all that matters. ;D Hope you get lots of carefree miles out of that one too!

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 09.03.07) FIRST RIDE
« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2007, 08:02:20 AM »
where did you get the outer springs for the forks?

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Re: Chris' CL350 Cafe Racer Build (Update 09.03.07) FIRST RIDE
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2007, 09:04:36 AM »
Bill:

Thanks for the kind words. The seat isn't for everybody, that's for sure. After riding it a bit and feeling the vibration, I may have to make another seat. The vibrations through the nuts must be...well, nuts.

Those springs came with the bike.

--Chris