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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #250 on: July 17, 2022, 09:36:06 AM »
Per,for $3000US dollars,you can rather purchase other needed parts.
I think the MJN's are nice to see.. but too expensive.
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #251 on: July 17, 2022, 09:45:44 AM »
Per,for $3000US dollars,you can rather purchase other needed parts.
I think the MJN's are nice to see.. but too expensive.
Yes, way too expensive!
Win lots of money on lottery, a theoretical chance if finding a set ;)
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #252 on: July 19, 2022, 12:37:18 PM »
I like the results you have achieved PeWe.
I think you have those carbs dialed-in now  ;)
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #253 on: July 19, 2022, 12:44:56 PM »
Thank you! ;D
Only a synch with Morgan carbtune left.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #254 on: July 28, 2022, 10:24:11 AM »
Setting adjusted after a rich dyno

- PAJ 135
- Fuel screws 1/2 + 1/8 turn out
- Pilot 25
- Needle jet: P1
- Needles: 9D3-52 (J8-9D03-52)
- Needle height: 4.5:6 from top
  ( 0.5mm M3 washer under clip at 4th
    notch)
- Main jet: 145

Needle model:  9E11-52 (was delivered with carbs)
Needle 9D03-52 (J8-9D03-52) ordered wich is thicker where engine ran too rich.  (9D03-52 stamped on needles.)


EDIT:
The carb jetting history has been a mess due to 2 issues that has tricked me during the years.
1. Cracked carb boots on 2-3, huge cracks under the clamps. Found Sept 2020, (see earlier post).
Can have been cracked a year or more. Last time apart and ok was when Billet block arrived, early 2017.

2. Not filtered PAJ that caused different result depending on how much dirt that has clogged the jets.

Carbs were changing all the time so dirty PAJ air inlet explains it.

Carb and Injection cleaning additive was added to one tank.
Strong mix.
Fuel screws had to be reduced after around 200km on one ride.
Additional cleaning, smaller pilot and PAJ 135 replaced stock 130. More air into pilot ciruit mix.

Guide line
https://www.webike.ph/ph_news/webike-original/columns/20201229-carburetor-setting-method-by-yoshimura/
« Last Edit: October 20, 2024, 01:21:14 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #255 on: July 28, 2022, 10:54:23 AM »
Per,do you have the 4) green PAJ tubes attached as before ?
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #256 on: July 28, 2022, 11:08:09 AM »
Yes!
They are part of the filter system that work fine, not restrictive as I initially thought.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2022, 09:04:07 AM »
Finally did the rectifier upgrade. For rides below 4000 rpm during a longer period of time. (Legal speed)

Schottky rectifier as a member described in detail 2 years ago. I ordered the rectifier and clamp diode soon 2 years ago.
2 sets.

Found an aluminum plate in right size at my job 2 weeks ago  to be used as a mounting plate and "cooler".

Not much space for it. It sit under a stock rectifier that I can plug in if needed. "Plan B".

Both tested. Regulator adjusted (reduced) for max voltage. Dyna-S do not need over 14.7V ;)
Checked on battery with 2 different multimeters. Voltage to ignition via relay, not key switch.

The bump between red and green close to rectifier, a clamp diode.

I got a 2nd thought about water and air. Drilled holes in the corner if (when) water  splash in. Air flow too.

Details with washers for distance under stock rectifier with ground ear plus an additional grounding direct to battery (grey thick wire).


« Last Edit: August 03, 2022, 10:54:36 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #258 on: August 03, 2022, 11:12:55 AM »
I like the small size of this rectifier;you are using that aluminum as a mount/heat sink.
Does this small rectifier require a heat sink/'cooler' ? or can it run w/o it ?
I imagine it gets quite hot
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #259 on: August 03, 2022, 11:41:55 AM »
I hope it will work with that alu plate as a cooler.
It has contact with stock rectifier via the bolt too.

It must have a cooling surface, its metal surface is very flat made for that. Temp paste between. I had old paste I used when building gaming computers 15-20 years ago. Or if it is even older...

The 2 guys that did this mod in that $6US mod thread mentioned it did not run hot.
They had coolers, but maybe not much more material/surface than my plate.

I need to test it during a longer ride. Check temperature after one hour constant riding in legal speed. Finger warm or finger hot? ;)

Then a little bit faster, if cooling improves.

Edit: The Schottky rectifier thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,183347.0.html
« Last Edit: August 03, 2022, 10:35:55 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #260 on: August 05, 2022, 10:27:55 AM »
Update.
I added more silicone that cover the fiberglass tape completely, wire outlet too.

Just to ensure no water intrusion that can cause corrosion where soldered or under the rectifier if water can penetrate the thermo paste.

It really is an upgrade.
I have a voltage meter between the gauges so I see the voltage levels and how it change.

It reach max voltage quicker now than before.

Crusing around at 3000-4000rpm on 5th gear, legal speeds.  Sometimes 3500rpm for a longer period of time.
The Schottky  rectifier is a good improvement.

The alu plate was warm (OK)  after around 90km ride, ca 1 hour. Mostly 3500 rpm, one power bursts in 100mph.
Gas refill during 5 minutes.

Continued to ride another 80km, less than 4000rpm, it did not become warmer. Checked direct at both stops.

Only warm for finger to touch, not hot.
Ambient temp was around 24C during the ride.

Another update:
Added a hanging mini fuse (15A) on the red wire. If leg on rectifier will snap or diode shorted a melt down will occur between rectifier and battery.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2022, 05:50:09 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #261 on: August 11, 2022, 11:11:10 AM »
New rear tire mounted today.
Michelin Road Classic 130/80-18.
Size look better on bike and rim is there for this size.

I had to wrestle some to get old tire to let go off the rim. Like glued.

Rod between swing and brake cover had to be moved one notch on the swing.

Old tire, 120/80-18 was not a good size, not even for the 3.0" rim.
Tire vs rim chart does not tell about handling.
Old tire is flat early in a way causing bad behavior on the road with wider groovy bumps.

130/80 look better. The loow profile style was not good.

This will be the bike's rear tire size from now. It will hopefully behave well as long as the rubber last.

I'll do the front tire another day.
Also Michelin Road Classic, 100/90-19.



« Last Edit: August 12, 2022, 09:17:00 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #262 on: August 11, 2022, 11:54:55 AM »
Nice looking tire. How did it balance up?
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #263 on: August 11, 2022, 09:29:45 PM »
Tire has no dot for lightest point, so more about the wheel setup balance.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #264 on: August 12, 2022, 08:11:14 AM »
The extra struggle to make tire to let go off the rim made me to order when I saw this with a good discount.
Next time less fighting. ;)
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #265 on: September 11, 2022, 10:03:04 AM »
Changed front tire today.

The old tire did only work for 12130 km. Or even less, high speed really bad behavior causing fork to jump and flex really much after 170kmh the last 300-400km. Did not look nice at 190kmh.

I guess that 90/90 tire do not match 2.15" rim regardless what rim vs tire chart say.

Same with my last 120/80 rear tire on 3.0" rim.
Should match according to rim vs tire chart. It got bad handling too early.
Same tire model in size 120/90 on stock 2.15 rim had good handling all its life to worn flat.

Anyway, my new front tire Michelin Road Classic 100/90-19 look better and will hopefully live longer on the 2.15-19 front rim.

Same Michelin model on rear, 130/80-18 that has worked fine so far on 3.0" rim.

Photo of old tire.
Old wave shaped rubber. Tire has been sitting correct. Not wrong rotation, pressure always 2.1 to 2.3 BAR.
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New Michelin Road Classic 100/90-19. Before brakes were completed.




Michelin tube as usual.


A 130km tire test ride with speedo needle touching 205kmh in the last part where possible to test stability. (Same road where the bad handling showed up nasty.)
 Handled OK ;)
100/90 profile feels better. 90/90 a mistake.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2022, 11:43:41 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #266 on: October 05, 2022, 12:58:39 PM »
Time for an update ;)
392 head back in end of August.

K2 head with F2 in valves have lash caps that got dimples rather quick. New 34mm K valves to replace them.

# Dyno today. #
It ran rich on main jet.
I reduced one step from 145 to 142.5 direct when back home.
I suspected that, but I had to know so I can forget richer mains.
I had an idea that 2 sizes smaller pilots should decrease the total fuel delivery.

Slow throttle up work fine. I could reduce fuel screws 1/8 turn for leaner idle.

Carbs have never worked that well on the small pilot jets (27.5) before. Filter made it to finally work.

Hopefully a new Dyno chance next week with better AFR.
Power as end of last year.  Now runs more evenly from low and still good response.

Torque in Nm, 91.04
(67.15 ft lbs)
104.31 whp DIN.
[STD a little bit more.
SAE 2 hp less]


Boring that season is over. Bike is now ready to be ridden with good AFR (jet changed) and good cam timing. 
I have tested more advanced and retarded, both with less power.
Plus new oil and filter done.
Over 9150 km this year so far.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2022, 01:36:21 PM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #267 on: October 08, 2022, 06:38:25 AM »
My latest rear tire seems to wear OK.
3567 km + 2 tire grinding dyno visits so far.
Not much flattening yet.
I have had rear tires that had a much flatter profile with same milage.

It look like the tire will survive another 3500 km wich will be a top record for all rears since the 80's.
I remember 8000km in the 80's.
The last 8 years is 4000-5000km normal except for 6000 km on the Metzeler RoadTec01 4.0-18.

I ordered another Michelin Classic Road 130/80-18 today. Good match on 3" wide rim as it look like now.

Plus a Metzeler ME77 4.0-18 to my stock K2.  Found both for OK price. Ca 20% off taking them to last years price.
Prices are higher now.

Price can go even higher due to the global madness.
Prepared for next season tire change.


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Yes, rear wheel is dirty and need a good clean ;)

« Last Edit: October 08, 2022, 06:48:27 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #268 on: October 08, 2022, 08:08:24 AM »
That must be a very exciting bike to ride!!
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #269 on: October 08, 2022, 08:46:49 AM »
Yes, it has rather good power for an old CB750 ;)
It is very convenient with good torque, less need to gear down.
I can cruise in 5th gear most of the time, from 50kmh and up. 
If riding in 100kmh and gearing down to 3rd I need to aim straight before WOT. Risk for too light front end.
When passing slower driven cars.
When carbs are good it does not sound that modified as it is ;)

A modified Kawasaki as Terry had would be next step.
Plus having a stock Z1-900 would be perfect! ;)
« Last Edit: October 08, 2022, 09:32:08 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #270 on: October 11, 2022, 10:06:23 AM »
Dyno day today. Got a few more than before ;)

DIN: 107.59whp / 67.59 ft lbs (91.64 Nm)

STD: 107.63whp / 67.62 ft lbs (91.68 Nm)





Last week 104 whp, as earlier dyno runs in May 2022 and October 2021.

Changes before this run today:
Reduced main jet from 145 to 142.5, cleaned and oiled the K&N pods.
Reduced fuel screws just a little possible for higher AFR at idle.

Next:
It runs rich when cruising, 100-120 kmh.
Around AFR 12.5, >13.5 would be better.

I hope one step smaller needle jet and a raising the needles a notch can fix that without power loss.

I do not know if there is a needle that is thicker at that lift area.
Cheaper to use what I have ;)
« Last Edit: October 11, 2022, 11:04:56 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #271 on: October 12, 2022, 07:37:42 AM »
Those are some great hp and torque numbers!
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #272 on: October 12, 2022, 10:20:10 AM »
Those are some great hp and torque numbers!
Thanks ;)
My goal was to verify the AFR. I hade a hope for an extra horse upon last runs 104 something.

When I heard the dyno guy ask me: "How many horses did you say the american guy had?"
Then I understood the dyno had shown a >106.xx whp run ;D ;D

It was Mike Riecks dyno with his 1005 cc build I had mentioned as a goal to reach.

It must be more in there...
It runs evenly without pinging and I do not want to take it apart again when it has no oil leak or other things to fix (yet).
Cam timing feels good too.

It might be possible to shave the cylinder a little more to let the pistons outer edge get a tighter squish. I think they are 0.25mm under the mating surface + 0.75mm MLS.
That stock block is already milled 1mm, 84mm height.

The guy that ported the head and  bored the cylinder, adapted it for the pistons with domes milled and chamber volumes had the idea to mill cylinder a little more.

The 70mm pistons are 0.5mm lower than my other JE 71.25mm pistons my billet block has, 84.50mm height.

If this was a race bike I might go for it. Plan B is a thicker head gasket if compression should become an issue.

The cylinder has worked with the previous lower K2 head milled 0.5mm so total height for cam chain OK with lower cylinder with not milled head.

Valve lash today is 0.10/0.15mm.
Set ex lash 0.10mm to might give something.
Risk for lower cylinder pressure and power loss, but the only simple thing to try for next dyno after I had tested smaller needle jets and raised needles to fix the rich cruising in 100-120kmh. 

Getting correct AFR range for idle to normal cruising area is hopefully reached before next dyno.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2022, 10:37:40 AM by PeWe »
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #273 on: October 12, 2022, 02:30:31 PM »
Do you see extra crank case pressure or anything being vented out the breather?
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Re: CB750K6 -76 project back to life with more updates
« Reply #274 on: October 12, 2022, 08:48:07 PM »
The pressure is higher than on my stock K2.
I have an extra breather hose from the clutch cover.
K6 oil tank has no breather to air as the earlier, maybe a little overpressure via the cap.

Front case weap a little which might have been started before the clutch vent.
Open case and reseal it might fix it. There are also some oil weaping around oil filter cover. The o-ring has not much stick out.

4.5 mm o-rings hard to get with filters, inculeded o-rings thinner.
I have bought separate o-rings.
Harder version could help if finding any.
CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967