Topic: How has your life changed?

[jlh3rd]

oh, sorry....New Zealand 103,360 sq miles.......hawaii 10932 sq miles

us 2,959,064 sq land miles....not counting water...

[BeSeeingYou]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

....in our government, unlike yours, we don't have a dictator elected by in house elites,

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

[ktm136]

No change, I go to work same as always. I go home and fire up the Playstation. I was bored before the pandemic, im still bored now. I'm not complaining, I had enough excitement for one life.

[carnivorous chicken]

Although I am fascinated by the conclusion ("I don't think New Zealand did all that great") that sort of flies in the face of what they have experienced (reopening, no cases for 102 days, life pretty much back to normal except for this week's blip), the notion that comparing a small, isolated state in the USA to an entire country is somehow not an "apples to oranges" comparison, and that you have, as we have seen others do, manipulated metrics to somehow make others look bad and the USA (Hawaii?) look good, I'll say this: Bravo Hawaii.

Hawaii also instituted a strongly enforced 14-day quarantine for visitors, mandatory C19 testing that goes into effect on Sept. 1, the order to quarantine is enforced with up to a year in jail and a $5,000 fine for people who don't obey, arriving visitors have their temperature checked at the airport, hosts of visitors are liable for the behavior of their visitors, visitors have severe restrictions during their 14-day qurantine, etc. There is a partial quarantine for inter-island travel as well. Stay at home orders were issued in mid-March.

The metric of population density for Covid cases is interesting, and no doubt affects C19's spread, but really doesn't speak to any of the above factors -- which are all policy-related. If the argument is, "well, population density is the cause of the spread of C19" then, by implication, there is little point in making any policy to reduce infection other than, perhaps, "spread out." But the point I am making -- that goes over people's heads or is simply ignored because, apparently, "FREEDOM!" -- is that well-implemented policy -- in Hawaii, in New Zealand -- affects countries' or states' experiences with C19.

But I will also say -- well done New Zealand. C'mon. Seriously. "I don't think New Zealand did that great"? Arguing for the sake of argument much?

And I'll end with this: Hawaii has seen a huge spike in the number of infected people beginning around July 21, and peaking (so far?) yesterday with 231 confirmed cases. Now take your population density comparison for New Zealand (4 cases in the past week, no scratch that, 4 cases in the past 3.5 months) to Hawaii (231 cases yesterday) and tell me how much better Hawaii is doing.

[jlh3rd]

I took the total numbers as reported in a google search. I'm not getting into a day by day comparison, I've got more to do in a day than that, The numbers stand. I do not care if populations density is a factor to anyone else, I showed it as what numbers can do....yet it is a fact. A small, remote island is much easier to deal with than a huge nation, and 46 people per sq mile is less contagious than 124 per sq. mile....You deny that? ...ok....
     You propogate and defend your numbers, and I'll do the same.......even steven....
I didn't go in thinking I'd find anything, but, well, there it is.......apple to apple......
My point, hawaii's numbers are better as an equal comparison to new zealand as to handling......

[jlh3rd]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

....in our government, unlike yours, we don't have a dictator elected by in house elites,

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

politics again?....hey stevo, you pay'in attention?

[Terry in Australia]

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

Ha ha, pay no attention to that fake news, if he knew what he was talking about, he'd have stopped posting long ago. In Oz, as opposed to the US, the various political parties nominate a candidate without those excruciatingly embarrassing public debates you guys have to suffer though, then a general election is held, where we all vote for whatever party we think will do the best job.

I'm a conservative, so I'm happy that our Prime Minister is a conservative also, and even happier that he was smart enough to ban Chinese folks entering Australia very early in the piece, reducing our CV cases to around 300 deaths for a population of 25 million.

It was only 126 in the first wave though, but due to our leftist state government here in Victoria going against federal government advice and using untrained security guards and not police and Army pers to enforce isolation restrictions on new arrivals from overseas, we've had a second wave with over 170 deaths in the last few weeks. We're back in lockdown, which is a pain in the arse, but all going well, I'll be out riding my bikes again in a few weeks, with little or no chance of contracting the virus. 

[carnivorous chicken]

I took the total numbers as reported in a google search. I'm not getting into a day by day comparison, I've got more to do in a day than that, The numbers stand. I do not care if populations density is a factor to anyone else, I showed it as what numbers can do....yet it is a fact. A small, remote island is much easier to deal with than a huge nation, and 46 people per sq mile is less contagious than 124 per sq. mile....You deny that? ...ok....
     You propogate and defend your numbers, and I'll do the same.......even steven....
I didn't go in thinking I'd find anything, but, well, there it is.......apple to apple......

Just as an exercise -- humor me here -- what has been the national policy in the USA for C19 to prevent its spread? Isn't that an appropriate comparison? And while I admire the armchair google researcher as much as the next person, there are factors beginning with "face validity" that people don't get.

Brief but perhaps instructive digression. The Democratic Peace Theory states that democracies don't go to war with one another. People pick away at it, but it seems to hold up, for the most part. But the question is "why?" Researchers argue about institutions, culture, the rarity of democracies until recently, where democracies are on the globe, etc. But someone took the data set and discovered that countries with McDonald's don't go to war with one another. So is the answer that having McDonald's makes a country not go to war with countries that have McDonald's?

By all means champion the population density hyothesis and ignore any other potential causes of C19 spread. I'd suggest getting back on that 'puter and running more comparative data, however. Ignore the fact that I agreed with you -- population density is likely a factor. By all means, continue to think New Zealand did a terrible job. The moon is made of cheese and the earth is flat.

[jlh3rd]

you'll have to wait....I'm watching videos of my grandson's football practise...and a show on the Planned" reset....event 201, agenda 2031...soros....

[jlh3rd]

didn't say any of that.....thought we were gonna have a possible, calm, discourse....guess not....never said zealand did terrible...show me where i said that........

[jlh3rd]

cheese is in the fridge...and my level is the only absolute flat thing i know of...

[jlh3rd]

we don't work here in the states under national policies.per say.....but.......I can't continue  because this  will become political ..........
I'm not "championing" anything.....it was an observation.....thanks for agreeing with it.

[carnivorous chicken]

didn't say any of that.....thought we were gonna have a possible, calm, discourse....guess not....never said zealand did terrible...show me where i said that........

I don't think New Zealand did all that great....

Mince words. New Zealand did pretty fantastically, or, I guess, "all that great."

I'm watching  a show on the Planned" reset....event 201, agenda 2031...soros....

Uh, OK?

[BeSeeingYou]

Yep the under reporting, and that idiot telling us that if you slow down testing you’ll have less positive cases is skewing the numbers, making it look better than it actually is. I was watching a news program where illegal mexican workers in the US were still going to work even though they knew they had CV, as they weren’t entitled to welfare payments. It is a truly fcuked up situation.

those illegals should be thrown out and never should have been allowed in our country in the first place....which that "idiot" intends to put a stop to. Funny how someone that would have stopped the very problem you mentioned is called an idiot.
Furthermore, they deserve NO money.
Funny,isn't it, that YOUR country doesn't seem to have an illegal problem.....hmmm wonder why?... buddy

your right though, some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor......

I'm not your buddy, and that moron is responsible for his blind devotees, like you, playing down this catastrophe, pretending that 1000 deaths a day "is what it is", and spreading it in huge numbers. If you can read a map, or know someone who can, you'll see why we don't have an "illegal" problem, because we have a sea border, and anyone trying to get here by boat gets picked up by the navy and put in a detention centre offshore.   

....in our government, unlike yours, we don't have a dictator elected by in house elites,

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

politics again?....hey stevo, you pay'in attention?

That's funny.    I quoted a political post from you.  Anyhow, explain to me how you even know who I am referring to?  There are thousands of people running for reelection for various offices and it is quite possible that I have a corrupt imbecile for a city council person that has ruined my neighborhood and I am looking for a change.

[jlh3rd]

lol...what makes you think i was referring to you personally?

you've begun a political post again........mods?

[jlh3rd]

didn't say any of that.....thought we were gonna have a possible, calm, discourse....guess not....never said zealand did terrible...show me where i said that........

I don't think New Zealand did all that great....

Mince words. New Zealand did pretty fantastically, or, I guess, "all that great."

I'm watching  a show on the Planned" reset....event 201, agenda 2031...soros....

Uh, OK?

that's right, ok? ...don't put words in my mouth, mince or otherwise. You wanna quote me, fine..." all that great" is not the same as " terrible "
there are dictionaries, you know.

[jlh3rd]

here..see? " not that great" ...isn't listed.

[BeSeeingYou]

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

Ha ha, pay no attention to that fake news, if he knew what he was talking about, he'd have stopped posting long ago. In Oz, as opposed to the US, the various political parties nominate a candidate without those excruciatingly embarrassing public debates you guys have to suffer though, then a general election is held, where we all vote for whatever party we think will do the best job.

I'm a conservative, so I'm happy that our Prime Minister is a conservative also, and even happier that he was smart enough to ban Chinese folks entering Australia very early in the piece, reducing our CV cases to around 300 deaths for a population of 25 million.

It was only 126 in the first wave though, but due to our leftist state government here in Victoria going against federal government advice and using untrained security guards and not police and Army pers to enforce isolation restrictions on new arrivals from overseas, we've had a second wave with over 170 deaths in the last few weeks. We're back in lockdown, which is a pain in the arse, but all going well, I'll be out riding my bikes again in a few weeks, with little or no chance of contracting the virus.

Good to hear that YOU still have a functioning democracy.  I did visit once and paid way too much to go to the top of that tall thing in Sydney.  I had no trouble getting used to the toilets that swirl the other way so I think I would fit right in.  After I unload all my stuff from the shipping container I could live in it in your back yard for the first year.  I would reciprocate by alloting you space in said container to transport all your U.S. Ebay purchases. 

[BeSeeingYou]

I have more time to develop baking skills.  A friend who is a potter made me a set of 4 inch pie pans.  Its the perfect size for two so instead of having a large pie that goes soggy as you cant eat it fast enough we have a fresh pie 3-5 days a week.  Black and red raspberry, sour cherry, mango, and rhubarb in the pics.  Maple black walnut sourdough sticky buns and black walnut chocolate chip cookies with dried cherries.

[Terry in Australia]

Terry, when did you guys get a dictator?  I was hoping Australia could be my escape valve in the unlikely event that unindicted co-conspirator  "Individual 1" gets re-elected.  Would I just be hopping out of the frying pan and into the fire?  Maybe I could go part way and stop in the Pacific Island nation of Tonga....I hear they have a King..... maybe I could live with that.

Ha ha, pay no attention to that fake news, if he knew what he was talking about, he'd have stopped posting long ago. In Oz, as opposed to the US, the various political parties nominate a candidate without those excruciatingly embarrassing public debates you guys have to suffer though, then a general election is held, where we all vote for whatever party we think will do the best job.

I'm a conservative, so I'm happy that our Prime Minister is a conservative also, and even happier that he was smart enough to ban Chinese folks entering Australia very early in the piece, reducing our CV cases to around 300 deaths for a population of 25 million.

It was only 126 in the first wave though, but due to our leftist state government here in Victoria going against federal government advice and using untrained security guards and not police and Army pers to enforce isolation restrictions on new arrivals from overseas, we've had a second wave with over 170 deaths in the last few weeks. We're back in lockdown, which is a pain in the arse, but all going well, I'll be out riding my bikes again in a few weeks, with little or no chance of contracting the virus.

Good to hear that YOU still have a functioning democracy.  I did visit once and paid way too much to go to the top of that tall thing in Sydney.  I had no trouble getting used to the toilets that swirl the other way so I think I would fit right in.  After I unload all my stuff from the shipping container I could live in it in your back yard for the first year.  I would reciprocate by alloting you space in said container to transport all your U.S. Ebay purchases.

That sounds like a great deal mate, lets do it! Make sure you bring that beautiful Ford with you, I'd love to go for a ride in that beast! Leave enough space in your shipping container for a Suzuki GT750K, I've been begging Eric to sell me one of his but he's snubbed me from the get go, so I'm gonna have to look further afield. Plenty of room in the backyard mate, my son's Explorer should be gone by then, so bring a big tent!

[ekpent]

 I like pie ! Was going to do a peach but might be getting late in the season.

[PeWe]

You have peach trees?
We have always season here, Del Monte canned fruits

[Stev-o]

politics again?....hey stevo, you pay'in attention?

I am and dont like it.

NO Politics please.      Go to Fakebook and post your political rants!

[Gordon]

politics again?....hey stevo, you pay'in attention?

I am and dont like it.

NO Politics please.      Go to Fakebook and post your political rants!

Agreed. 

Don't try me.  I have a wife and two kids who have been at home 24/7 for almost six months.  I haven't had a moment's peace at home in that time.  My fuse is short. 

[Kevin D]

I like pie ! Was going to do a peach but might be getting late in the season.

https://thepeachtruck.com/pages/preorder
It looks like the Georgia peach truck tour has already been here.
Our neighbor offers some of his peaches at the curb to keep them away from the yellowjackets, but I haven’t seen any out this year.
Blueberries are in, I think raspberries too. Try Putneys in Benzonia for upick.