Author Topic: Are your motion pro cables a bad fit? (Read 8223 times)

Flying J · « **on:** January 05, 2010, 11:13:41 AM »

All the cables i have received recently for my Cb550s i have had to adjust all the way out because they are to long. Any body else having this problem?

Sporkfly · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:24:36 AM »

I've had the same problem with my 550 and motion pro cables even though they are listed as stock length.

MickeyX · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:31:22 AM »

We had a problem with motion pro cables on our CB650. The length was wrong, they were missing a nut, total crap. We ended up throwing them out and getting Honda cables. I won't buy motion pro again.

andy750 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:33:56 AM »

Quote from: MickeyX on January 05, 2010, 11:31:22 AM

....and getting Honda cables. I won't buy motion pro again.

+1.

cb750fbomb · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:34:22 AM »

all the MP cables I've bought for my '77 750f, two throttle and a choke, have been great. To bad they can't keep it consistent.

Flying J · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:52:46 AM »

Ok i talked to motion pro. They are going to check their current cables against some OEM and see if they screwed up. Ill keep you posted when they call back.

Really? · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:31:07 PM »

The -3 clutch and stock length throttle cables were perfect for the K5 that I got from MP.

Toxic · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:44:19 PM »

Hey Tipper

Your -3" cables were they for drag bars, clubmans or clip-ons?

I was just about to inquire how much shorter I need for my drag bars.

do you by chance have a part number?

thanks

Flying J · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:47:24 PM »

I have bought stuff for my 750F and all was fine but for some reason the 550 stuff just doesn't fit right. To much free play.

Really? · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:47:32 PM »

Superbike bars. On thier site, they only had stock and a -3 clutch cable listed for the K5. I have no answer for the the bars you mentioned but should be real close to that, as my guess.

SHELLFISH · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:48:46 PM »

Very timely post. I'm just about ready to order some throttle cables!

By the way. What side of the frame do the accelerator cables run on a 550 K?
On my 1976 550F they run down the right side. I know these are correct
On my 1976 550K they run down the left side.

MötleyRöx · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:58:11 PM »

Quote from: ffjmoore on January 05, 2010, 12:47:24 PM

I have bought stuff for my 750F and all was fine but for some reason the 550 stuff just doesn't fit right. To much free play.

If it was just the clutch cable, it could be a fairly easy fix with a longer adjustment screw that goes into the lever, from a different bike.
Any way to do something similar with the other cables too?
Just a thought, if motion pro is unwilling in the end.

shizzomynizzo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2010, 03:11:07 PM »

If you look on their site, they do not offer a stock length cable for the clutch. They only offer 1.5 inch longer or shorter.

Someone wanted the part number for clutch cable with drag bars??? 02-0124 for the 75 550.

CB750Winger · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2010, 06:07:14 PM »

I got my 750K with Clubman bars and only the pull throttle cable. My back couldn't take the bars so I put a higher than stock bar on it and went to look for the push cable. The MP cable I got was totally wrong so went to my Honda dealer to do a special order for length. Looking around the showroom and doing some measuring, a new Honda Shadow cable was a perfect fit and $14. I also had to get a clutch cable made as well as the front brake line. They were not as cheap but Honda sent my cables out and had the new ones made to the correct length. it was worth it for me and doesn't kill my back.

Zaipai · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2010, 06:19:27 PM »

I ordered push cable and a pull cable and a clutch cable from Dennis Kirk and they are all too long. It said on the site they were the exact replacements for my 75 CB550F and they are not. In fact I have the adjustments out all the way and the gas cables work ok but the clutch is no where near where it should be.. I will be watching this thread for ideas....

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2010, 06:24:32 PM »

Quote from: Zaipai on January 05, 2010, 06:19:27 PM

I ordered push cable and a pull cable and a clutch cable from Dennis Kirk and they are all too long. It said on the site they were the exact replacements for my 75 CB550F and they are not. In fact I have the adjustments out all the way and the gas cables work ok but the clutch is no where near where it should be.. I will be watching this thread for ideas....

Something to remember when ordering over seas is that these bikes had different handle bars for different markets so this could cause a problem with lengths.

Mick

Zaipai · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2010, 06:27:22 PM »

Quote from: retro rocket on January 05, 2010, 06:24:32 PM

Quote from: Zaipai on January 05, 2010, 06:19:27 PM
I ordered push cable and a pull cable and a clutch cable from Dennis Kirk and they are all too long. It said on the site they were the exact replacements for my 75 CB550F and they are not. In fact I have the adjustments out all the way and the gas cables work ok but the clutch is no where near where it should be.. I will be watching this thread for ideas....

Something to remember when ordering over seas is that these bikes had different handle bars for different markets so this could cause a problem with lengths.

Mick

Thanks Mick, I did not know that.. So I will have to pay more attention to it in the future.. I am waiting to buy new cables for a while so I will have plenty of time to look..

.: Scott :.

Flying J · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:26:37 AM »

Its not the length of the cable that is causing the problem. I can use the same cables on clubmans that i use on stock bars. It just takes creative routing. The problem were having with the 550 cables is that the inside cable is to long and you can not take up enough slack with the adjusters. I have a 1/2 inch of free play in my throttle and i have every thing adjusted all the way out. same with the clutch. They never called me back today but i will be calling them again tomorrow.

fastbroshi · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:49:05 AM »

I'm pretty sure I ordered a custom one, though I have clubmans. And you know what? The clutch end bulb or cylinder part that attaches to the clutch's arm was too big. Had to grind it down a bit to make it fit.
And one more thing: for what they charge, they should be A+ perfect.

tlbranth · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:11:24 AM »

The MotionPro throttle cable for my K0 750 had a too long inner cable relative to the casing and I had to customize it to work. Don't remember what I did but remember wondering "how hard could it be to measure a stock cable and duplicate it?".

Zaipai · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:14:01 PM »

Quote from: tlbranth on January 06, 2010, 09:11:24 AM

The MotionPro throttle cable for my K0 750 had a too long inner cable relative to the casing and I had to customize it to work. Don't remember what I did but remember wondering "how hard could it be to measure a stock cable and duplicate it?".

Yea that was kinda my thinking.

shizzomynizzo · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:12:49 PM »

Quote from: Zaipai on January 06, 2010, 07:14:01 PM

Quote from: tlbranth on January 06, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
The MotionPro throttle cable for my K0 750 had a too long inner cable relative to the casing and I had to customize it to work. Don't remember what I did but remember wondering "how hard could it be to measure a stock cable and duplicate it?".
Yea that was kinda my thinking.

I called up and talked to them about this. The guy said something like... We make a certain number of cable models. we feel even if it's not the right size, but it will work for the application, we sell it for that application. If we didn't make them, where would you get them, custom cables cost 40 bucks a piece?...I said, well then why do you advertise them as "stock" replacement when they're 1 1/2 inches longer and the inside is too long for a particular application?

The guy got ticked off and said order from a dealer then if you don't like our products.

Funny thing is I did buy their cables from the local dealer.

What are the alternatives to Motion Pro? (as I am in need of a new clutch cable, less than a year old and under 1500 miles and it's already fraying at the lever)

Zaipai · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:17:41 PM »

Quote from: shizzomynizzo on January 06, 2010, 08:12:49 PM

Quote from: Zaipai on January 06, 2010, 07:14:01 PM
Quote from: tlbranth on January 06, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
The MotionPro throttle cable for my K0 750 had a too long inner cable relative to the casing and I had to customize it to work. Don't remember what I did but remember wondering "how hard could it be to measure a stock cable and duplicate it?".
Yea that was kinda my thinking.

I called up and talked to them about this. The guy said something like... We make a certain number of cable models. we feel even if it's not the right size, but it will work for the application, we sell it for that application. If we didn't make them, where would you get them, custom cables cost 40 bucks a piece?...I said, well then why do you advertise them as "stock" replacement when they're 1 1/2 inches longer and the inside is too long for a particular application?

The guy got ticked off and said order from a dealer then if you don't like our products.

Funny thing is I did buy their cables from the local dealer.

What are the alternatives to Motion Pro? (as I am in need of a new clutch cable, less than a year old and under 1500 miles and it's already fraying at the lever)

I am with you. From what I can tell its probably best to order from the local Honda shop.. I hope some one comes up with a better place..

tlbranth · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:35:33 PM »

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The guy got ticked off and said order from a dealer then if you don't like our products.

Not a good way to attract customers. I remember AT & T having an attitude like that.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:20:39 PM »

I would take them back to the dealer who sold them to you, if Motion pro get it from their distributors it may hit home a little better, also mention to the dealer what their response was as that ia a pretty poor way to deal with a customer and it WILL loose them business..

Mick

Deltarider · « **Reply #25 on:** January 07, 2010, 12:01:13 AM »

IMO genuine Honda parts are best. Just have a close look at a genuine Honda cable and an imitation. Honda's is superior. Just order the right partsnumber. Consult the Parts List. Length varies for different area codes (lower and higher handlebars).

tlbranth · « **Reply #26 on:** January 07, 2010, 09:36:59 AM »

For what it's worth, I sent motion pro a url to this thread and suggest they read it.

Flying J · « **Reply #27 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:39:59 AM »

Ok i talked with motion pro today and they Tried to get back to me but had the wrong number. My issue has been sent over to the R&D department and they are looking into the throttle cable issue. They said they compared their clutch cable to a stock one and it was a match. So now i need to figure out why the 2 i ordered are fully extended on 2 different 550s. So far motion pro has been pleasant with me and seem to be genuinely looking into this issue.

Does anybody have issues with their clutch also or just throttle? Please vote at this Poll

VOTE

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=63773.0

Zaipai · « **Reply #28 on:** January 08, 2010, 01:59:54 PM »

I wonder of MP has the correct original cable to start with. I compared mine to one off a functioning 550 (both gas, and clutch) and they were longer. Now, I got mine from Dennis Kirk however I received the same reply from them, that "they matched it up to the original cable and it was the same length". I believe they have the wrong one to begin with.. Just my .2 worth..

tlbranth · « **Reply #29 on:** January 08, 2010, 03:30:34 PM »

nevertheless, if that's your business, wouldn't hurt to go to the honda shop and buy an original to work from eh?

MickeyX · « **Reply #30 on:** January 08, 2010, 03:39:19 PM »

neither of our throttle cables were the right length and one (#1 in fiche) was missing the second nut that is unique to it's design from the other, so we couldn't set/tighten it. the push and pull are different (#1 and #2) and they made them pretty much the same. neither were correct though. we put our 30 yo ones back on and waited a week for Honda ones to come in.

total crap.

they don't pay attention to detail, rather they just try to get in the ballpark. that really isn't good enough to make me spend any more $$ with them.

Zaipai · « **Reply #31 on:** January 08, 2010, 08:12:34 PM »

Quote from: tlbranth on January 08, 2010, 03:30:34 PM

nevertheless, if that's your business, wouldn't hurt to go to the honda shop and buy an original to work from eh?

I agree.. seems simple.

shizzomynizzo · « **Reply #32 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:16:02 AM »

Quote from: ffjmoore on January 07, 2010, 11:39:59 AM

Ok i talked with motion pro today and they Tried to get back to me but had the wrong number. My issue has been sent over to the R&D department and they are looking into the throttle cable issue. They said they compared their clutch cable to a stock one and it was a match. So now i need to figure out why the 2 i ordered are fully extended on 2 different 550s. So far motion pro has been pleasant with me and seem to be genuinely looking into this issue.

Does anybody have issues with their clutch also or just throttle? Please vote at this Poll
VOTE
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=63773.0

Funny, the guy I talked to said they did not have stock length. It also show on their website that they only offer 1.5 longer or shorter. http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/search/by_motorcycle/all/1974/Honda/CB550K/Cables/
I too have a problem with the length of the cable, too long for sure!
I am going to go to a local shop that makes custom cables, as long as they're not 50 bucks a piece.

MötleyRöx · « **Reply #33 on:** January 09, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »

The loop-de-loop in the parts diagram is hilarious to me.

Like the drawing is all to scale and they had to do that to show the proper length, or something.

cb350twin · « **Reply #34 on:** January 09, 2010, 01:44:36 PM »

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We had a problem with motion pro cables on our CB650. The length was wrong, they were missing a nut, total crap. We ended up throwing them out and getting Honda cables. I won't buy motion pro again.

Same here only it was on my CB350 And CB750 for the 750 I just threw them out and got Honda OEM ones ( I hate throwing new stuff out like that, but man were they junk. ) There way more $ but WAY WAY more worth it. Motion pro you need a hand of iron to hold the thottle open, Honda ones smooth as glass! For the 350 we got them because they where gray and the Honda ones where black. Big mistake they were well over 2 inches too long.. we took it back to the dealer and they cut and welded or brazed the cables they fit now but are still total crap, poor quality and not smooth at all.

Flying J · « **Reply #35 on:** January 11, 2010, 04:24:27 PM »

Ok, Update. I talked to Larry at motion Pro. We talked for a while and i dug through my old cables to compare to the one i had bought. The internal throttle length compared to one of the old ones i had lying around was a 3/4 inch to long. The clutch cable compared to one that came off my 550f was maybe 1/4 inch to long. Problem is that none of these cables i had were OEM. So, i think im going to go buy some OEM cables and compare them the motion Pro cables i have. I would like to say that after getting a hold of the right person at motion Pro they do want to make cables that fit. Stay tuned, and if you have some OEM cables that you could measure the internal cable PM me.

Sporkfly · « **Reply #36 on:** January 11, 2010, 05:13:19 PM »

I believe I have a stock clutch cable lying around. I'll check into it.

traveler · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:23:01 AM »

Even with Clubman's, I routed my old worn out stocker to get a measurement. The way I routed it, it ended up being stock length was okay! Same on Clutch!

So....I bought some Motion Pro cables in stock length off eBay.....I have not fit them on yet. Looks like I need to check the length on them before I lube them up and install.

I know I read somewhere the "crc2 online" will custom length cables you buy from them.

If my cables end up too long....maybe I can sedn them back to MP to shorten them.

This is really a downer!

~Joe

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Author Topic: Are your motion pro cables a bad fit? (Read 8223 times)

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