Author Topic: Fairing on a CB750 (Read 16536 times)

andy750 · « **on:** February 25, 2010, 07:50:27 AM »

So I am considering mounting a small fairing on a CB750 for touring purposes. Should be big enough to take some wind off the chest but not HUGE like a large vetter. Looking for photos (sideview and cockpit view) of any and all fairings that you may have on your CB750. NOT interested in BIG fairings but a something inbetween a flyscreen and a half-fairing.

Anyone got pics of a short dunstall fairing mounted in their bike? I have only found this example...

http://www.classic-motorcycle-fiberglass.com/honda.htm

Also interested in how the fairing mounts. Handlebar mounts would not be suitable for this project due to potential issues at speed or high winds.

Lastly fairing should be compatible with K1/K0 bars. Tough order I know!

So summary of this:
1. Size - between flyscreen and half-fairing
2. Not handlebar mounted
3. Compatible with K0/K1 bars.

Also interested in feedback from those that have small fairings - how much use are they on a CB750? Do they reduce rider fatigue over long distances? Offer any wind/rain protection?

thanks for any help with this.
cheers
Andy

JBMorse · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:29:01 AM »

Andy,
I don't have a fairing now, but was considering one for the bike, since I plan to tour on it. But, I have done a lot of reading here and elsewhere that suggests, for a tall person like you or I (you look tall in pics), you'd need a pretty tall (ie, unsightly) fairing to do more good than harm. My impression is that some of the shorter windshields and fairings may just create more head buffeting. I am interested to hear what others think, though.
BTW, here are some I was considering for my CB500:
http://shop.nationalcycle.com/perl/cycle/N2560?
http://www.giviusa.com/Screens--spoilers/Universal-screens/A601
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=23810&store=Main&catId=&productId=p230092&leafCatId=&mmyId=9297

myhondas · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:41:21 AM »

Andy,
This is the one that I had on my original 750 K4. I recovered it from the swamp and started to get it back into shape for the rebuild. Once I decided to not do the build I have it about 85% restored. Windshield is almost perfect. It mounts off the forks. It is light weight. What I still need to do is sand blast the rust on the three bar mounts and I was going to repaint the gold pin strips. If you are interested, let me know via PM

Ray

some original photos of the fairing on the bike.

What it looked like when I recovered it from the swamp.

I have buffed out the majority of the black fiberglass to a decent shine and the windshield has been clean/polished to extreamly nice condition. I was going to replace all the hardware with stainless screws/bolts+nuts. If you want, I can take some pics of it in its current condition.(Glass off of fairing)
Oh, by the way, the turn signals stay mounted to the bike and just fit into rubberpadded holes in the fairing. The only thing that you need to take off the bike to mount it is the reflectors. They screw onto the fairing.

andy750 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:48:11 AM »

Hey JB

Thanks for the links and some of these look ok. I was trying to avoid the handlebar mounted ones though as these may affect handling at speed or with crosswinds. But actually the first link to National looks promising. You are correct that I am tall (6`4) and I should have mentioned this as it will matter.

I currently have 3 fairings for my VStrom and they are different heights and will give different amounts of protection and buffeting. The one I have on for winter is just below the optimal (which is nose level) and I do get a little bit of buffeting still but not too bad. #2 fairing (a Givi) was around the same height but terrible for head buffeting. The last one #3 is shorter and gives clean air around the head but gives less wind on the body - this fairing comes up to lower torso only. It will be ideal for summer.

So..for the 750 I was looking for something like the #3 fairing - coming up to low-mid torso and angled in such a way that no head buffeting would result. Not really looking for a tall, head-height fairing but something lower and sleaker that will take a little of the wind off. The cheap EMGO fairings look ok but they are handlebar mounted and apparently not so good at speed...anyone confirm this?

I have tried the Dennis Kirk fairing on a 750 before and for me it was terrible. The buffeting was unbearable and I had to remove it asap.

Ive done all my touring fairing-free before and its fine but thinking about trying something different.

thanks
Andy

andy750 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:52:02 AM »

Ray

Wow great job on restoring that fairing! I am very impressed! Thank you also for the offer but Ill pass just now - its a bit wider than I am looking for (I know Im picky!). But maybe a cut down version of this would do -you have given me some ideas in any case. Any pics of the cockpit? Or where it attaches to the fork?

Thanks
Andy

myhondas · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2010, 09:14:59 AM »

These are all I have right now.... you can see in the first pic the silver bar on the left above the handlebar which is the left mount. On the second pic, silver bar on left just below handlebar and the silver bar to the right and running beside the right handlebar. Then there is one at the bottom center that mounts up by the fork lock. There is no wind buffet that I ever experianced with this on the bike. In fact, being 6'2" I never even got helmet buttet. The wind mainly hit you from the rear a little. I did the ton +20 with this on the bike. Put 15k on the bike with it...and loved it. With stock handle bars,(bottom photo) you hands are protected where I had higher/pullbacks(first photo) and my hands got the wind blast/rain/etc. The side bars mount off the fork clamp bolts.

andy750 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2010, 09:29:13 AM »

Thanks for that Ray. You have got me thinking!

I hope all is well.

cheers
Andy

mick750F · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2010, 10:53:19 AM »

I bought one of these recently but don't have it on the bike yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shoei-FM5-Fairing-Kit-White-Black-Silver-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27ad2e6bebQQitemZ170409225195QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Just sold the Vetter Rooster I had too but that was probably too big for you.

Mike

andy750 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2010, 11:07:57 AM »

Hey Mike I like that. How is it mounted? Any chance of getting a shot of it on the bike?

cheers
Andy

HondaMan · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM »

Andy: there's a 100% clear, frame-mounted universal fairing out there (the name escapes me, unfortunately) that was first marketed in the 1970s, then recently came back for the V-twin craze. It comes in regular height and extra-tall height. I'll try to find a link to one, somewhere...
It's current: I saw it last Fall in a bike shop for sale, new.

The reduction in fatigue is so dramatic that I don't ever ride without one, even in town riding. Typically, with any of the frame-mounted fairings, speeds of 50+ MPH will keep the rain off of all but your feet.

andy750 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2010, 11:47:26 AM »

Sounds interesting Mark! If you could find a link that would be great!

cheers
Andy

kennydean2000 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2010, 11:51:42 AM »

I found an old Vetter fairing on CL last spring and refinished and mounted it. I don't like the look of them stock - and the windshield on the one I bought was junk - so I fabricated one out of polycarbonate. This is what it looks like. I'm 6' even and this windshield still allows wind in my face. I made a larger one for colder weather riding that better protects my face. Both take some of the pressure off your chest and makes rides more comfortable.

I was kinda looking for a Road Glide shape for the front end - and I still need to fab a headlight ring.

FYI

andy750 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2010, 12:31:37 PM »

Kenny good looking bike there and you did a good job with the fairing. I do like how it sits and the low windscreeen is very useful. Im looking for something a little bit slimmer though. More like a dunstall style fairing. Although Im curious to see how Mikes fairing (shown above) looks on the bike. Its a good size.

Another factor I failed to mention was the fairing has to be sturdy, light and secure -so if I was going along a very rough road (lets say forest track or third-world type road) then its not going to fall off. Maybe Im just asking too much

thanks for the reply.

cheers
Andy

mick750F · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:02:43 PM »

Quote from: andy750 on February 25, 2010, 11:07:57 AM

Hey Mike I like that. How is it mounted? Any chance of getting a shot of it on the bike?

cheers
Andy

It's mounted at the headlight ears and handlebars. I'll see if I can get it on the bike tomorrow and take a pic.

Mike

andy750 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:14:49 PM »

Thanks Mike Id appreciate it!

Andy

gerhed · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:29:58 PM »

This is a fairly standard fairing.

--I lowered it about 6 inches--for looks

TwoTired · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:55:06 PM »

This is a Vetter Quicksilver on my CB550F. It has the stock bars. Much smaller than the Windjammers, but still frame mounted.
It works very well on trips, the freeway, etc. I also have side extenders (not mounted) that shields a bit more wind in the cold weather.

Highly recommended. They aren't that plentiful, and the frame mount adapters to specific bikes are even rarer. But, its a great set up.

andy750 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2010, 03:17:13 PM »

That is a very nice 550 TT - I am sure you could do some long distance touring on that.

Many thanks for posting (you too Gerhed)

Andy

Alan F. · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:02:00 PM »

Andy, what do you think of the hondaline fairings from the early 80's that were available for bikes like the CB900, VF1100 and CBX?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hondaline-Fairing-Windscreen-Windshield_W0QQitemZ180472992185QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2a050751b9

They're frame mounted and all but may be heavier than you'd like.

andy750 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:29:48 PM »

Hey Alan I like it. Good size as well. However he wants $130 for shipping!

thanks
Andy

kpier883 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:48:08 PM »

Quote from: myhondas on February 25, 2010, 08:41:21 AM

Andy,
This is the one that I had on my original 750 K4. I recovered it from the swamp and started to get it back into shape for the rebuild. Once I decided to not do the build I have it about 85% restored. Windshield is almost perfect. It mounts off the forks. It is light weight. What I still need to do is sand blast the rust on the three bar mounts and I was going to repaint the gold pin strips. If you are interested, let me know via PM

Ray

Is that a Wixom?

myhondas · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2010, 09:31:00 PM »

Yup, it is the batwing Wixom fairing.

Alan F. · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2010, 03:51:17 PM »

http://www.rifle.com/stores/category.cfm?&DID=9&CatID=10&Category=Fairings

The Nightflight, Superbike mount to the top triple clamp, and the Sport mounts to the top triple and fork tubes too.
New, available and not all that ugly, but pricey though.

http://www.whaccessories.com/Fairing.htm

scroll down to the Metisse Vampire and a little lower to the MBD Classic, pricey too.

http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/yamaz/RZ3501984-86.htm

Airtech has the Yamaha RZ350 units and frame mount brackets too, they look best IMHO.

-Alan

kpier883 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2010, 06:22:44 PM »

Quote from: myhondas on February 25, 2010, 09:31:00 PM

Yup, it is the batwing Wixom fairing.

Cool. I have never owned one, but I think it complements the look of these very well and appears to be much lighter than some of the alternatives. If I run across one of them I hope it is at a time when I have some spare cash.

myhondas · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2010, 07:28:16 PM »

I am in the market to sell mine, since I am not going to restore the other K4. Once I get some parts of it cleaned, re-pin stripe it, and put new stainless hardware on it, I will put it up for sale. Unless someone wants it as is.....then that is a possibility also.

Blind Bob · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2010, 04:28:06 AM »

Hi Andy

I've got a 1970's Brealey Smith fairing mounted on my 550. Fits to the headlight bucket mountings with a brace to fork tree underneath. Made from good quality fibreglass but quite light. Got it on e bay a couple of years ago for £20 here in the UK. Whilst I'm only 5' 6" tall it does take quite a bit of wind blast away. Photo below.

Bob

andy750 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2010, 04:46:08 AM »

Hey Bob thanks for the photo and that is just what I am looking for! I will need to keep my eye of out for that on Ebay. I like the setup you have on the 550. What side bags are they and how are they mounted?

I found a place in Nottingham selling the Brealey Smith fairings on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CB650-CB750-TOP-FAIRING-BREALEY-SMITH-BLACK_W0QQitemZ370237795920QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item5633e46e50

Any idea where I could find a windscreen for one of these? They can supply the fittings but not the shield. Great value for money!

thanks
Andy

Alan F. · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2010, 06:10:28 AM »

Quote from: andy750 on March 01, 2010, 04:46:08 AM

Any idea where I could find a windscreen for one of these? They can supply the fittings but not the shield. Great value for money!

Gustafsson Plastics http://www.bikescreen.com/index.html doesn't seem to have one listed, but may be worth a phone call or email.
-Alan

ekpent · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2010, 06:25:08 AM »

Sure this one is to big but something different. He has been trying to sell it since last fall. http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/1621453128.html

andy750 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2010, 06:46:41 AM »

Thanks Ekpent for that but a little on the big side unfortunately. Looks like a Dunstall fairing though. I do like it but just not for this project.

cheers
Andy

ekpent · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2010, 07:22:41 AM »

Maybe I can win the prize for big. Look at the size of all this that was on the ole' guys bike when I bought it. Probably future landfill

andy750 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2010, 07:43:25 AM »

Now that is big! I do like those side cases however -how are they attached?

Andy

ekpent · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2010, 08:07:16 AM »

They have a frame work and are detachable.Probably throw the whole set on CL later this spring and see if I get a bite.

Blind Bob · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2010, 11:00:40 AM »

Hi Andy

Not sure where you would get a screen, maybe a search for racing fairings may throw something up. Hope I dont break mine!

Bags and rack are Rickman sold as Honda Britain in the 70's. Panniers bolt to to the rack, but I've modified the set up with big knurled fasteners to enable quick release, not that I take them off that often but helps with maintainance. Box's are fibreglass showing lots of patina.

Good luck with your search.

Bob

andy750 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2010, 11:42:39 AM »

Thanks Bob that was great info. Much appreciated.

Andy

Jordan · « **Reply #35 on:** March 01, 2010, 12:40:16 PM »

Those 1st ones from the swamp were a wixom fairing very popular in the 60's for BMW's and actually are very good at protection without alot of squirrelly behavior on the hiway. They are getting harder to find these days. I had one on a 67R69s with side boxes made in England which are also very hard to find

mick750F · « **Reply #36 on:** March 01, 2010, 03:51:22 PM »

Hey Andy...I haven't forgotten you. I was sidetracked last week when a friend's house was hit by half of a 80' willow tree during Thu. night's storm. The fairing is partly mounted on the bike but there are some annoying hardware issues that I've been messing with along with some shop problems. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow.

Mike

andy750 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 01, 2010, 03:55:36 PM »

Excellent Mike and I am waiting patiently

Glad to see you survived the storm!

cheers
Andy

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